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Tim Panaccio
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
Tim Panaccio: Cleary Over Youth? Your Call
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Sep 10 @ 1:49 PM ET
Tim Panaccio: Cleary Over Youth? Your Call
- tpanaccio

clearly cleary is the man
tsricci
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Oreland, PA
Joined: 12.04.2008

Sep 10 @ 2:00 PM ET
Here's my 2 cents: it seems like the Flyers want to bring their prospects along slowly, giving them plenty of time to develop and mature before bringing them up to the NHL. I can't say that is a bad strategy and will most likely give their better prospects a much greater chance of staying in the NHL when they make the jump. Although I don't like the no trade clause and I think the contract is a year too long I think Cleary is a good two way role playing forward with some grit to his game and his cup experience should be valuable.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Sep 10 @ 2:04 PM ET
Here's my 2 cents: it seems like the Flyers want to bring their prospects along slowly, giving them plenty of time to develop and mature before bringing them up to the NHL. I can't say that is a bad strategy and will most likely give their better prospects a much greater chance of staying in the NHL when they make the jump. Although I don't like the no trade clause and I think the contract is a year too long I think Cleary is a good two way role playing forward with some grit to his game and his cup experience should be valuable.
- tsricci

prospects slowly = closer to free agency when they are contributing, need to play them when they are young and cheap
tsricci
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Oreland, PA
Joined: 12.04.2008

Sep 10 @ 2:08 PM ET
prospects slowly = closer to free agency when they are contributing, need to play them when they are young and cheap
- watsonnostaw


Ah, yes that would be the other side of the coin. Though it seems the new CBA hampers the ability of young players to get a big contract as quickly. Also, the Flyers don't have prospects that are truly NHL ready, the still need seasoning. But, you do make a very valid point.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 2:31 PM ET
Ah, yes that would be the other side of the coin. Though it seems the new CBA hampers the ability of young players to get a big contract as quickly. Also, the Flyers don't have prospects that are truly NHL ready, the still need seasoning. But, you do make a very valid point.
- tsricci



I think it's very possible that both McGinn and Laughton are NHL ready.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 10 @ 2:53 PM ET
Tim Panaccio: Cleary Over Youth? Your Call
- tpanaccio


I prefer going with Cleary, even though I think that the contract is one year too long.

They can make moves to free slots if the younger players prove ready. It won;t hurt the Flyers at all if Adam Hall is beaten out by Laughton for the 4th line center job. If Tye McGinn was a better skater, maybe he could do all the things Cleary does more cheaply, but we haven;t seen anything to suggest that McGinn can play on a PK unit or be a very solid two way player with decent speed.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 10 @ 4:23 PM ET
Trade Giroux, he costs too much.
whatthef
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 09.20.2005

Sep 10 @ 5:44 PM ET
Cap hit is too high and the deal is at least a year too long. I would have rather see some younger guys get some time in the line up.
NickA
New Jersey Devils
Location: Shero's magical sack, NJ
Joined: 10.22.2008

Sep 10 @ 5:46 PM ET
Smart move. His experience will benefit the youth you already have up front.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Sep 10 @ 6:02 PM ET
Good Move, Hardworking Newfie, most work all their lives, Cleary's good for another few years. Kinda surprised at the price though...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 10 @ 6:04 PM ET
Good Move, Hardworking Newfie, most work all their lives, Cleary's good for another few years. Kinda surprised at the price though...
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Actually taking a $50k paycut
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Sep 10 @ 6:11 PM ET
Actually taking a $50k paycut
- Jsaquella


Which is fair, the guy still looked really good at his role in the playoffs, but he wasn't going to get that money again.....

So Pronger goes on LTIR, and everything is ok for the Cap, but what if He comes back??
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 10 @ 6:13 PM ET
Which is fair, the guy still looked really good at his role in the playoffs, but he wasn't going to get that money again.....

So Pronger goes on LTIR, and everything is ok for the Cap, but what if He comes back??

- Byfuglien Ate Me


I have a better chance of dating a super model, then Pronger has of resuming his Hockey career.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Sep 10 @ 6:22 PM ET
I have a better chance of dating a super model, then Pronger has of resuming his Hockey career.
- MJL


Damn, I was hoping he would come back and make a late push for Sochi consideration.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 10 @ 6:27 PM ET
Which is fair, the guy still looked really good at his role in the playoffs, but he wasn't going to get that money again.....

So Pronger goes on LTIR, and everything is ok for the Cap, but what if He comes back??

- Byfuglien Ate Me


If he could, I'd welcome him back...but he's done
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Sep 10 @ 7:06 PM ET
If he could, I'd welcome him back...but he's done
- Jsaquella


That's too bad.....

I thought they were still saying there was a chance

Pronger was a Beast
omaplata
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.02.2011

Sep 10 @ 7:08 PM ET
clearly cleary is the man
- watsonnostaw



what's your clearance, clarence??
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 10 @ 7:27 PM ET
That's too bad.....

I thought they were still saying there was a chance

Pronger was a Beast

- Byfuglien Ate Me

They gotta lie to some extent, but he's finished, sadly
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Sep 10 @ 7:35 PM ET
They gotta lie to some extent, but he's finished, sadly
- Jsaquella


I see what you're saying. Any teams D would look better with a healthy Pronger, but if he is done like Lindros....

Any Flyers fans expecting to see Bryz this season? PTO maybe?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Sep 10 @ 9:05 PM ET
I see what you're saying. Any teams D would look better with a healthy Pronger, but if he is done like Lindros....

Any Flyers fans expecting to see Bryz this season? PTO maybe?

- Byfuglien Ate Me


God only knows what the Cosmonaut will be up to this year.
JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Sep 11 @ 12:43 AM ET
Dan Cleary is a heart and soul type of player and would be an asset to any team he is on. Would have preferred a two year deal but Cleary will work his butt off for three years and Flyers will get there monies worth. Couter between Cleary and Read, could be a good line.
ICUBB
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.03.2013

Sep 11 @ 1:13 AM ET
Look up and down this lineup and all you see on the front lines is youth, a good veteran winger to help those guys grow is more important than developing another rookie on this team. Develop Laughton, Cousins, McGinn and the others down in the minors where they will get top minutes and if injuries occur they will be ready to jump in.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 11 @ 7:53 AM ET
Look up and down this lineup and all you see on the front lines is youth, a good veteran winger to help those guys grow is more important than developing another rookie on this team. Develop Laughton, Cousins, McGinn and the others down in the minors where they will get top minutes and if injuries occur they will be ready to jump in.
- ICUBB


Laughton is not eligible to play in the AHL. If he doesn't make the Flyers, he goes back to Juniors.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Sep 11 @ 8:09 AM ET
Look up and down this lineup and all you see on the front lines is youth, a good veteran winger to help those guys grow is more important than developing another rookie on this team. Develop Laughton, Cousins, McGinn and the others down in the minors where they will get top minutes and if injuries occur they will be ready to jump in.
- ICUBB

Bang on.
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