Todd Cordell: James Wisniewski a Perfect Example Of Flawed Concussion Protocols

I hear you but.......as long as the League allows a shoulder, rib, wrist, finger, neck, back or head to be announced as "upper body", who is kidding who?

The league doesn't need to do anything, the organizations, coaches and trainers do. If they see signs or a MOI that looks like it could've caused a concussion, then check it out and if they have a concussion, keep them out. Players aren't going to suddenly stop lying about concussions because the league says they can't.

I hear you but.......as long as the League allows a shoulder, rib, wrist, finger, neck, back or head to be announced as "upper body", who is kidding who?
- TJ

I hate this argument. Anyone else has privacy rights regarding their medical history, why should it be any different for the players. Just so media and fans have something else to talk about?

So, a player lies to his team's medical staff to play in a game and that is the NHL's fault? A guy breaking his legs after jumping off a bridge shouldnt be the city's poblem... You can lawyer this every which way, but at the end of the day, there is a point where the individual needs to be responsible for their own decisions.

So, a player lies to his team's medical staff to play in a game and that is the NHL's fault? A guy breaking his legs after jumping off a bridge shouldnt be the city's poblem... You can lawyer this every which way, but at the end of the day, there is a point where the individual needs to be responsible for their own decisions.
- PuckAndSticks

Pretty much this.

So, a player lies to his team's medical staff to play in a game and that is the NHL's fault? A guy breaking his legs after jumping off a bridge shouldnt be the city's poblem... You can lawyer this every which way, but at the end of the day, there is a point where the individual needs to be responsible for their own decisions.
- PuckAndSticks

Completely agree with this. I've missed work for 4 straight weeks now (I use a computer and have an hour commute) due to a concussion I received playing hockey. The reason I've been having so many problems is because I lied to my wife about how my head was hurting for the first week and tried to ignore the symptoms. I'm now doing vestibular therapy...it sucks. But should I blame my wife for letting me continue to be active? Its my stupid fault. If players are that dumb...as I am...then its on them.

I agree that the players have to be responsible for their own health. However in some cases, When every person watching the game recognizes a concussion for what it is(a concussion) without the help of any medical training. And then somehow a trained medical professional cannot recognize the symptoms. I agree with both parties here to an extent. Yes the players have to be their own advocate's. But then why do they even have trainers and team doctors at the games to DIAGNOSE and treat injuries, When the players diagnose and treat themselves.
An example would be the Seabrook hit on Backes(yes it was dirty, yes he deserved his suspension) As far as i know, They have yet to admit to a concussion. Why? To keep him out of the spotlight if he should receive another concussion?
I agree with the author that the teams medical staff, and team officials have to be held accountable to do their jobs. If they incorrectly diagnosed an injury as a strain, and it turns out to be a fracture and the player goes back into the game and does more damage that keeps him out for a longer period than previously would have. You can bet that trainer/medical proffesional would be in hot water. Why is it any different with concussions?
Player hits head on boards, Medical staff asks player how he feels? "I fffeell fffiiinnnee", (as he is being supported by the rest of the medical staff) Coach to staff -"We need him". Staff to player -"dont take any more hits to the head". Coach to player-"get back out there" "This is hockey".
I have no idea if this is how it goes, But i'm guessing most of us have no idea how it goes in these situations, At this level of play. And please spare me the "protocol" that the teams must adhere to. And thats how it goes because you read it somewhere.

Completely agree with this. I've missed work for 4 straight weeks now (I use a computer and have an hour commute) due to a concussion I received playing hockey. The reason I've been having so many problems is because I lied to my wife about how my head was hurting for the first week and tried to ignore the symptoms. I'm now doing vestibular therapy...it sucks. But should I blame my wife for letting me continue to be active? Its my stupid fault. If players are that dumb...as I am...then its on them.
- cranktheradio

Agreed to a point. If the symptoms are not easily recognized, Then i agree. The fault is on the player. But in cases where everyone, BUT the player, coach, and medical staff, Recognize the symptoms of a concussion, and throw the player back out because he claims his back hurts. Fault still falls with the player, But also with the coach and medical staff.