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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Jul 30 @ 12:24 PM ET
Eklund: Keeping a Lid on Pandora's Box.
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
Eklund: Keeping a Lid on Pandora's Box.
- Eklund

Sounds...

in my head
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 30 @ 12:25 PM ET
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Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:26 PM ET
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jul 30 @ 12:28 PM ET

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Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Jul 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
8 years at 9 maybe gets it done.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:29 PM ET
No way MTL can win this fight. They rolled the dice a couple years ago and lost HUGE... And now it's time to pay the man!

Stick'em for eight figures, PK!
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
5 mil per is a total slap in the face. I would ask out of Montreal if that is the case. Make a deal elsewhere. Other teams will pay. He already took one lowball deal to remain there and go on to win the Norris.
digitalbath
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Detroit, MI
Joined: 07.09.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
5 million is a total insult. He won a Norris. He's worth at least 7. Phaneuf gets 7!! Everyone knows this guy's worth more than him.
StargateSG1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Buffalo Grove, IL
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jul 30 @ 12:31 PM ET
5 Million offer IS an insult.
Crying_Wrestler
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.23.2012

Jul 30 @ 12:33 PM ET
Eklund: Keeping a Lid on Pandora's Box.

"We saw last year and the plows how PK grew frustrated by his playing time or situation she was being put into. "

- Eklund


I've heard the Sedins called sisters but this is just outrageous!
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Jul 30 @ 12:33 PM ET
PK's screwing himself here... his ask is way too reasonable. He should be pushing for 10+. He's a Norris winner, and the team's best player. Montreal should be pumped to sign him for 8 mil per year.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:34 PM ET
No way MTL can win this fight. They rolled the dice a couple years ago and lost HUGE... And now it's time to pay the man!

Stick'em for eight figures, PK!

- As_I_See_It


The clear difference is that pk will deliver on his long term deal

The only sticking that will be happening is dion sticking it to the leafs over the next 7 years to the tune of 49M
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jul 30 @ 12:35 PM ET
Eklund: Keeping a Lid on Pandora's Box.
- Eklund

Or as Ryan Johanson likes to call it ''a slap in the face''.


SmielmaN
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Belle River, ON
Joined: 05.11.2012

Jul 30 @ 12:35 PM ET
MB is using he same tactic used with Eller. Modest raises for RFA years then big payday a for UFA years. PK has to tell his agent to make a 8yr deal happen at all costs, but drag it to the last minute to maximize the cash out of the team. I would guess we see a 8yr x 7.6-7.8 mill per. I'm not really worried. PK whined in the media before his last contract and he got hammered. Now he's saying all the nice things to try to get public opinion on his side to put pressure on the Habs. This is not a new tactic in high end player negotiations.

The reason this isn't a slam dunk is because PK,while awesome, can still be a bit better everywhere in his game. He hasn't taken his team to the finals (though you could argue that he would have if Price wasn't submarined).

This deal will prob happen the night before or just before the arbitration hearing. No player wants to go from negotiating based off your strengths to hearing the same ppl you work for tell a stranger all your flaws and point out what players better than you make. It is obviously a embarrassing and insulting process for the player.

Last minute deal and PK takes just under 8 million.
GadesnSens
Ottawa Senators
Location: 'isn't cheatin if ur wf is watchin, ON
Joined: 06.12.2008

Jul 30 @ 12:36 PM ET
5 mil per is a total slap in the face. I would ask out of Montreal if that is the case. Make a deal elsewhere. Other teams will pay. He already took one lowball deal to remain there and go on to win the Norris.
- thundachunk


As a Sens fan, it kind of reminds me of the Alfie sistuation .... GM low-balls assuming that the player will understand that this is a back and forth game that is played .... player gets insulted, says FU and moves on..... GM is left wondering WTF, that was only my opening number, I was going higher.......

fait attention avec des negotiations entre les etoiles ......
jerman89
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:37 PM ET
The amount spoken is for his remaining RFA years. I am sure Habs are offering more for long term deal.

I have a feeling that he will sign 8 years.. the first 2 years (RFA years) will be around 6.5 the the last 6 years will be ranging from 8.5 to 12.5.
Making the AAV for 8 years between 8 and 9 million
SmielmaN
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Belle River, ON
Joined: 05.11.2012

Jul 30 @ 12:37 PM ET
5 million is a total insult. He won a Norris. He's worth at least 7. Phaneuf gets 7!! Everyone knows this guy's worth more than him.
- digitalbath


Everyone outside of nonis's head knew that was a terrible deal though. That's why they couldn't trade him this summer before the new deal kicked in.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:38 PM ET
As a Sens fan, it kind of reminds me of the Alfie sistuation .... GM low-balls assuming that the player will understand that this is a back and forth game that is played .... player gets insulted, says FU and moves on..... GM is left wondering WTF, that was only my opening number, I was going higher.......

fait attention avec des negotiations entre les etoiles ......

- GadesnSens

Alfie was a ufa when this happened
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:38 PM ET
5 Million offer IS an insult.
- StargateSG1


Exactly.

$5M was a couple years ago in an expiring CBA and before the TV mega-deals. It was also before he won a Norris, made Team Canada and seeing Toews/Kane sign 8 year $10M+ AAV deals.

Bergervin is out to (frank)in' lunch if he thinks PK is going to settle for $5M. If PK is strong armed, his days are numbered as a Hab.
Cfser
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Anyone who claims insider know
Joined: 07.26.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:39 PM ET
PK grew frustrated by his playing time or situation she was being put into.



Hmmm?
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:40 PM ET
The clear difference is that pk will deliver on his long term deal

The only sticking that will be happening is dion sticking it to the leafs over the next 7 years to the tune of 49M

- MTL1

Try to stay on topic, kiddo. I know it's hard, but at least try!
cscbloggin
Boston Bruins
Location: Springhill, NS
Joined: 11.01.2013

Jul 30 @ 12:40 PM ET
Id love to see him move and shut all these Habs fans up. Aside from winning the NORRIS on a half season, he hasnt contributed anything that counted for anything, having said that he is far above Phenuff ,#3 is the biggest plug in the league by far and shouldnt be a captian
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 30 @ 12:40 PM ET
Try to stay on topic, kiddo. I know it's hard, but at least try!
- As_I_See_It

You do realize that 5m offer is the starting point on a 1 year deal
jerman89
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 02.12.2011

Jul 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
Exactly.

$5M was a couple years ago in an expiring CBA and before the TV mega-deals. It was also before he won a Norris, made Team Canada and seeing Toews/Kane sign 8 year $10M+ AAV deals.

Bergervin is out to (frank)in' lunch if he thinks PK is going to settle for $5M. If PK is strong armed, his days are numbered as a Hab.

- As_I_See_It


People, please realize that this is for an RFA 1 year contract and not long term. The real negotiations are being done for a long-term contract (which included 2 RFA years and a max of 6 UFA years). If the Habs sign him long term, Habs are definitely offering more that the 5M. A final deal would look more like "the first 2 years (RFA years) will be around 6.5 the the last 6 years will be ranging from 8.5 to 13.5. Making the AAV for 8 years between 8 and 9 million"

No panic needed
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