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Bill Meltzer
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Aug 21 @ 4:14 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Renberg
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Aug 21 @ 7:20 AM ET
Renberg had a lot of bad luck and some poor judgement, injury-wise, but when he was 'on', he was something to see.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 21 @ 7:37 AM ET
Renberg had a lot of bad luck and some poor judgement, injury-wise, but when he was 'on', he was something to see.
- tangent_man


Even when Renberg was hurting, he always was busting his tail. Had he not had the injury issues, I have little doubt he'd be getting inducted along with the rest of the Legion of Doom.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 21 @ 8:18 AM ET
Renberg don't need no stinkin' Hall of Fame.

Hey, maybe he can induct the other two?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Aug 21 @ 8:22 AM ET
He will always be my all time favorite Flyer.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Aug 21 @ 9:12 AM ET
Ouch
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 21 @ 9:38 AM ET
Scary stuff, if it ends up pertaining to Mase:

http://www.sportingnews.c...rado-avalanche-regression

TL;DR: statistically, goalies tend to be all over the place from season to season.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 21 @ 10:07 AM ET
Scary stuff, if it ends up pertaining to Mase:

http://www.sportingnews.c...rado-avalanche-regression

TL;DR: statistically, goalies tend to be all over the place from season to season.

- Tomahawk


Totally accurate. There are only a small handful you can count on to be consistent over a long period of time.

I thought the deal they have Mase was totally reasonable and doesn't handcuff them should he implode again. Of course, then we'd be back to square one in Flyers goalie hell

Lets pray the guy remains solid and Stolarz becomes a quality NHLer to follow. Cross your fingers, toes, etc.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 21 @ 10:15 AM ET
Renberg had a lot of bad luck and some poor judgement, injury-wise, but when he was 'on', he was something to see.
- tangent_man


Yup, in 94-95, IMO, Renberg was, nearly as much as Lindros, the driving force on the Legion of Doom line and a better all around offensive player than Leclair. He clearly lost a step after the abdominal injury and never had that same powerful drive in his skating after that.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 21 @ 10:17 AM ET
Anyone else having problems leaving comments?
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 21 @ 10:18 AM ET
Yeah, BiggE

Its been telling me the thread doesn't exist
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Aug 21 @ 10:46 AM ET
Anyone else having problems leaving comments?
- BiggE

very much so
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 21 @ 10:55 AM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=36258

Manager of Hockey Analytics Ian Anderson

So the Flyers hired Jethro Tull to do some fancy stats.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Aug 21 @ 11:04 AM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=36258

Manager of Hockey Analytics Ian Anderson

So the Flyers hired Jethro Tull to do some fancy stats.

- feelingkettle

He don't even got a blog
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 21 @ 11:05 AM ET
Totally accurate. There are only a small handful you can count on to be consistent over a long period of time.

I thought the deal they have Mase was totally reasonable and doesn't handcuff them should he implode again. Of course, then we'd be back to square one in Flyers goalie hell

Lets pray the guy remains solid and Stolarz becomes a quality NHLer to follow. Cross your fingers, toes, etc.

- Hesh_


It could easily go the other way... he could whip out a career-apex .935 SV% and win the Vezina just as easily as he could regress back to his Blue Jackets form.

It's just really hard to say either way.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Aug 21 @ 11:07 AM ET
He don't even got a blog
- Jsaquella

He was found sitting on a park bench eying little girls with bad intent.
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Aug 21 @ 11:15 AM ET
I remember watching the Legion of Doom line and thinking that Renberg was doing so many great things with the puck and skill-wise looked like another Lindros without the mean streak. I think he was my favorite Doom member and I was always frustrated when he seemed to be out so much.
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 21 @ 11:15 AM ET
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=36258

Manager of Hockey Analytics Ian Anderson

So the Flyers hired Jethro Tull to do some fancy stats.

- feelingkettle


He does it while dancing on one leg with a flute
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 21 @ 11:16 AM ET
It could easily go the other way... he could whip out a career-apex .935 SV% and win the Vezina just as easily as he could regress back to his Blue Jackets form.

It's just really hard to say either way.

- Tomahawk


Totally feasible!

Let's hope we see it! Gimme 10+ shutouts, Mase!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 21 @ 11:35 AM ET
It could easily go the other way... he could whip out a career-apex .935 SV% and win the Vezina just as easily as he could regress back to his Blue Jackets form.

It's just really hard to say either way.

- Tomahawk


Is it also possible that he will play similar to the past year? Or does it have to be a noticeable regression or progression?
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Aug 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
Is it also possible that he will play similar to the past year? Or does it have to be a noticeable regression or progression?
- jmatchett383


I suppose with goalies, anything is possible. Like I originally said, you can only count on a handful to be consistent annually. Most will have their peaks and valleys over time.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
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Joined: 09.20.2013

Aug 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
Is it also possible that he will play similar to the past year? Or does it have to be a noticeable regression or progression?
- jmatchett383


No consistency. It's either 0.729 sv% or 0.983 sv%
psuhockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.25.2011

Aug 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
Is it also possible that he will play similar to the past year? Or does it have to be a noticeable regression or progression?
- jmatchett383

Well I guess you either have to be a Koolaid drinker or full of gloom and doom.

Steve Mason's save percentage by year starting in 2008-2009: .916, .901, .901, .894, .916, .917.

Discounting the 3 year slump in Columbus for reasons well known, I think expecting a save percentage around .916 next year is a pretty good guess.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Aug 21 @ 11:54 AM ET
I suppose with goalies, anything is possible. Like I originally said, you can only count on a handful to be consistent annually. Most will have their peaks and valleys over time.
- Hesh_


Yeah, the position is so dependent on the team's fortunes... even guys who sustain running strong seasons can completely lose it if the situation changes in front of them. See: Ilya Bryzgalov.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

Aug 21 @ 12:00 PM ET


is there a trick to quoting ?
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