Todd Cordell: The Beginning Of The End For Pete DeBoer?

Lack of high"ish" end talent is why they're in the position they're in. If the Devils don't play a perfect "team game", they won't win.

Lack of high"ish" end talent is why they're in the position they're in. If the Devils don't play a perfect "team game", they won't win.
- LeftCoaster

Yes and no...high end taken has never been part of the Devils recipe. The "team game" has worked for then for some many years because the players believed in whatever system and made it work. It does not look like there is any life or structure or even care in this team. Another first period where they get low shots. No heart. No belief in the system. Regardless of scoring, the fact that this is almost the same group and they are playing so bad is not good. Shake it up at the top...hope to salvage the season....

Todd Cordell: The Beginning Of The End For Pete DeBoer?
- Todd.Cordell

Todd, I was wondering if you'd take your blog in this direction today and I'm glad you did. It seems like more often than not players are claiming they played "good enough to win" but the results clearly aren't there. Combine that with the countless times players have admitted to playing "20 good minutes" and being awful the rest, and you've got to start holding the coach accountable.

I also don't know if the offensive numbers are Lou's biggest concern. He dished out serious money and years (and a top-10 draft pick) to get and keep Schneider. Lou's comfortable building around defense but I don't think DeBoer is the best at coaching it. The late game collapses will do him in more so than the lack of offense, in my opinion.

But does Lou wait until it gets worse and, by that time, it's too late? Or does he make a move to try and create a spark while the Devils are still somewhat in contention?

Another west coast trip that could doom the head coach...

Lack of high"ish" end talent is why they're in the position they're in. If the Devils don't play a perfect "team game", they won't win.
- LeftCoaster

No one would argue the talent aspect, but when there is a lack of motivation to show up night in and night out, it falls on the coach. Its his job to get the best out of the players he's given. He hasn't done that.

Its nothing againt him personally, Todd. Of course no one wants to see someone lose their job, but this is the business he's in. You can't get emotionally attached to people, there is a lot of turnover in coaching.

Todd, I was wondering if you'd take your blog in this direction today and I'm glad you did. It seems like more often than not players are claiming they played "good enough to win" but the results clearly aren't there. Combine that with the countless times players have admitted to playing "20 good minutes" and being awful the rest, and you've got to start holding the coach accountable.

I also don't know if the offensive numbers are Lou's biggest concern. He dished out serious money and years (and a top-10 draft pick) to get and keep Schneider. Lou's comfortable building around defense but I don't think DeBoer is the best at coaching it. The late game collapses will do him in more so than the lack of offense, in my opinion.

But does Lou wait until it gets worse and, by that time, it's too late? Or does he make a move to try and create a spark while the Devils are still somewhat in contention?

Another west coast trip that could doom the head coach...
- jersey1414

Agree. Continuously making excuses for the team is not a good precedent to set.

Deboer should really look at the silver lining

Deboer should really look at the silver lining
- shvingter88

The first 10 minutes were pretty even, you know.

His perception of how the team performs is delusional.

So is his perceptions of players.

His system may work, but when it worked we had multiple 30G scorers. Guys who would get 30 regardless of the system.

The honeymoon for 2012 is over. The Cup run was more the roster than it was DeBoer. Also, the staff around DeBoer was significantly better.

There's an apathy and detachment from reality behind the bench that doesn't work when you want to be a winning organization.

His perception of how the team performs is delusional.

So is his perceptions of players.

His system may work, but when it worked we had multiple 30G scorers. Guys who would get 30 regardless of the system.

The honeymoon for 2012 is over. The Cup run was more the roster than it was DeBoer. Also, the staff around DeBoer was significantly better.
- FLdevilsFAN

Well his system hasn't been working this season. Part of that has been the players not performing but most of that still falls on him.

Yes and no...high end taken has never been part of the Devils recipe. The "team game" has worked for then for some many years because the players believed in whatever system and made it work. It does not look like there is any life or structure or even care in this team. Another first period where they get low shots. No heart. No belief in the system. Regardless of scoring, the fact that this is almost the same group and they are playing so bad is not good. Shake it up at the top...hope to salvage the season....
- bigjersey3

That's all well and fine when you've got Marty Brodeur, Scott Stevens and Scott Niedermayer on your team, but it's not the 1990's early 2000's anymore. I know the Devils fluked out a finals three years ago as a complete underdog, again, Parise & Kovalchuk aren't there to lead the way, your talent pool is shallow at the moment.

It's hard to get shots on goal when you don't possess the puck and you're chasing it all night. When the Canucks play a good team like San Jose or LA, they're in the same boat, they're chasing all night.

That's all well and fine when you've got Marty Brodeur, Scott Stevens and Scott Niedermayer on your team, but it's not the 1990's early 2000's anymore. I know the Devils fluked out a finals three years ago as a complete underdog, again, Parise & Kovalchuk aren't there to lead the way, your talent pool is shallow at the moment.

It's hard to get shots on goal when you don't possess the puck and you're chasing it all night. When the Canucks play a good team like San Jose or LA, they're in the same boat, they're chasing all night.
- LeftCoaster

Those finals weren't as much of a fluke as people like to think

Seems a little unfair to pin the majority of the Devils problems on DeBoer. He acquired a seemingly playoff ready team in his first season and then lost 3 of his best players to free agency and retirement in the following 2 seasons.

I'm not a huge follower of the Devils anymore now that Parise plays for the Wild, but it seems to me that Lou hasn't come close to replacing the amount of talent that he's lost over the past few seasons.

Seems a little unfair to pin the majority of the Devils problems on DeBoer. He acquired a seemingly playoff ready team in his first season and then lost 3 of his best players to free agency and retirement in the following 2 seasons.

I'm not a huge follower of the Devils anymore now that Parise plays for the Wild, but it seems to me that Lou hasn't come close to replacing the amount of talent that he's lost over the past few seasons.
- MnGump

Clarkson was a good third liner, not our 3rd best player.

Edit: misread the post. But clarkson was replaceable, Parise and Kovy no. That said this teams defense and goaltending is arguably better than that season.

Seems a little unfair to pin the majority of the Devils problems on DeBoer. He acquired a seemingly playoff ready team in his first season and then lost 3 of his best players to free agency and retirement in the following 2 seasons.

I'm not a huge follower of the Devils anymore now that Parise plays for the Wild, but it seems to me that Lou hasn't come close to replacing the amount of talent that he's lost over the past few seasons.
- MnGump

Pretty difficult to replace a generational player and a franchise player in 3 seasons

Seems a little unfair to pin the majority of the Devils problems on DeBoer. He acquired a seemingly playoff ready team in his first season and then lost 3 of his best players to free agency and retirement in the following 2 seasons.

I'm not a huge follower of the Devils anymore now that Parise plays for the Wild, but it seems to me that Lou hasn't come close to replacing the amount of talent that he's lost over the past few seasons.
- MnGump

Do tell how you would go about replacing Parise and Kovalchuk in two-three years.

Clarkson was a good third liner, not our 3rd best player.
- rmdevil313

That should be pretty obvious to people now that he's in Toronto but people love throwing that in our face.

I loved Clarky but he sucks ass

Those finals weren't as much of a fluke as people like to think
- shvingter88

Just my opinion - the prediction was the Eastern Conference teams were in tough against teams like LA or Chicago…and it showed in the final.

Clarkson was a good third liner, not our 3rd best player.
- rmdevil313

I thought that was a reference to Marty.

Just my opinion - the prediction was the Eastern Conference teams were in tough against teams like LA or Chicago…and it showed in the final.
- LeftCoaster

It went to six games. Many of them could've gone either way.

Just my opinion - the prediction was the Eastern Conference teams were in tough against teams like LA or Chicago…and it showed in the final.
- LeftCoaster

If you watched it as closely as we did you would have noticed those games could have gone either way. This was no LA vs NYR

If you watched it as closely as we did you would have noticed those games could have gone either way. This was no LA vs NYR
- shvingter88

Ya I know a few went into overtime, first two I think? That said…the Kings won.

Come on Todd. We both know that PDB had very very little to do with us reaching SCF. He brought no one. Kovi and Zach did it. And how about constant loosing the lead, now that's what he brought. And getting scored in the last minute has nothing to do with talent.

Never been a fan of PDB, if he was fired today i wouldn't lose any sleep over it. The question i have for the devils is simply the same question i have for my NY giants, when do i have to stop paying for past performences? Lou lamerillio has been living off stanley cups won over a decade ago, isn't it time he answered for the team he is putting on the ice. How many coaches and players have left this organization without anything in return? When another head coach gets fired, maybe its time to replace the GM also?