Ryan Wilson: Fixing the Roster: Trading For Veteran Top Six Help Fixing the Roster: Trading For Veteran Top Six Help

Awesome add another 30+ yr old F to the roster for years to come or a guy who will disappear more often than 71....brilliant!

I don't want either due to age and cap hits.

Hopefully we can get Frolik, maybe sign Soderberg, Santorelli or even Ribeiro for 3c. Trade Sutter for Sharp, buy out Scuds (or deal him anywhere hopefully without retaining). Resign Comeau and Winnik for nothing above 2mil per, Comeau can be replaced in house by Rust of another cheap UFA.

Perron/Sharp-Sid-Hornqvist
Perron/Sharp-Geno-Frolik
Winnik/Kunitz-UFA-Bennett
Spaling/Winnik-who knows-Comeau

Absolutely know clue if this could work cap wise, but this is what I would try to do.

Sutter is the weakest player on the puck in the NHL. He looks like a high schooler against NHL players. As long as you can handle the puck near the boards and have decent offensive abilities, welcome to Pittsburgh.

EDIT: Forgot Kunitz and the Dupuis possibility. Too many wildcards...

would the Pens have any interest in Milan Michalek?

he got moved around the lineup a bit this year, as ottawa tried giving playing time to younger guys like stone and hoffman..........but is still, IMO, a top six winger.

i imagine the price of acquiring him would be pretty low.....maybe a 2nd rd pick or decent (not great) prospect. his contract isn't great, but it's not horrible either......2 more years at 4 mil.

the guy can still play.....think he could easily be a 25-30 goal man with crosby or malkin

Call me insane but I think I'd actually rather have Semin at 3.5 than Sharp at 5.9. Save for this season, he was still a twenty goal scorer in Carolina despite an atrocious team. Maybe playing with his countryman again will reinvigorate him. Remember, Malkin hit the fifty goal mark when playing with a pure sniper in James Neal. Maybe Semin and Malkin are the spark plugs each other need.

That being said, I sincerely hope Rutherford has something better up his sleeve. Semin is a massive gamble and and wouldn't make our team younger or faster. Plus, he'd slot right into Kapanen's potential spot since they are both RWs. Trading for Semin would effectively kill Kapanen's chances of making the roster this season, and we absolutely need to afford him a chance to make an impact.

If Semin gets bought out... I wouldn't mind signing him to a one year deal for a minimal amount

I'm still pulling for Yakupov. Young, scoring Russian winger for Geno with the potential to grow and develop. He's underperformed to this point so I don't think he would be too expensive. If all else fails, I could stomach Kunitz for Semin with 50% retained if CAR also threw in a draft pick.

Call me insane but I think I'd actually rather have Semin at 3.5 than Sharp at 5.9. Save for this season, he was still a twenty goal scorer in Carolina despite an atrocious team. Maybe playing with his countryman again will reinvigorate him. Remember, Malkin hit the fifty goal mark when playing with a pure sniper in James Neal. Maybe Semin and Malkin are the spark plugs each other need.

That being said, I sincerely hope Rutherford has something better up his sleeve. Semin is a massive gamble and and wouldn't make our team younger or faster. Plus, he'd slot right into Kapanen's potential spot since they are both RWs. Trading for Semin would effectively kill Kapanen's chances of making the roster this season, and we absolutely need to afford him a chance to make an impact.
- Victoro311

If they retain 50% I still think he could be had for cheap. Big risk with him. I would take him if he'd come cheap. If they buy him out, I wouldn't mind a 2yr 2-2.5mil for him.

Ryan, would the better option be to try and get a team's modestly performing young player who they may not have in their long term plans on the cheap in the hopes that the player will produce much more with either Malkin or Crosby?

Can Semin play LW?

would the Pens have any interest in Milan Michalek?

he got moved around the lineup a bit this year, as ottawa tried giving playing time to younger guys like stone and hoffman..........but is still, IMO, a top six winger.

i imagine the price of acquiring him would be pretty low.....maybe a 2nd rd pick or decent (not great) prospect. his contract isn't great, but it's not horrible either......2 more years at 4 mil.

the guy can still play.....think he could easily be a 25-30 goal man with crosby or malkin
- sensarmy_11

Might be a better option than Sharp or Sperm, but still not great. We need youth. Another Perron type target would be great. Younger guy who's worn out his welcome with his current club that can be had for under value.

Edmonton has another guy like that on its roster in Nail Yakupov, but something tells me they're gonna wanna keep him around for a little bit longer to see how he plays with a big boy center like McDavid before giving up on him.

Hall-RNH-Eberle
XXX-McD-Yakupov

That ain't nothing to sneeze at. However, if they are willing to move on from Yak, we might be in the position to make a serious bid if his asking price has indeed gone down. We can send them Sutter to round out their C depth which also gives them another top 6 RW option if Leo pushes him out of that roll. We can also send over Ben Lovejoy as a sweetener. Give them a competent NHL veteran defenseman at a reasonable contract to mentor their up and coming studs like Nurse. Throw in a lesser prospect and I legitimately believe that this deal could get done.

Can Semin play LW?
- Id_Puck_Me

That's his natural position.

Trading for Semin seems like a horrible idea.

I don't want either due to age and cap hits.
- jfkst1

Ditto and double-ditto

Moulson?

as long as he has someone to get him a puck he's a hell of a sniper (don't let his numbers with the god awful sabres fool you)

he'll work his ass off every game as well...unlike a certain russian you have been mentioning

Hopefully we can get Frolik, maybe sign Soderberg, Santorelli or even Ribeiro for 3c. Trade Sutter for Sharp, buy out Scuds (or deal him anywhere hopefully without retaining). Resign Comeau and Winnik for nothing above 2mil per, Comeau can be replaced in house by Rust of another cheap UFA.

Perron/Sharp-Sid-Hornqvist
Perron/Sharp-Geno-Frolik
Winnik-UFA-Bennett
Spaling-who knows-Comeau

Absolutely know clue if this could work cap wise, but this is what I would try to do.

Sutter is the weakest player on the puck in the NHL. He looks like a high schooler against NHL players. As long as you can handle the puck near the boards and have decent offensive abilities, welcome to Pittsburgh.
- znagle

it would figure that the year Pittsburgh has some cap space there are few desirable UFAs. I dislike Sutter as much as you, but I'd rather trade him for picks/prospect than for Sharp. I also don't think Sutter would be of interest to Bowman, despite his interest in another non-analytics guy in Vermette (which will be a massive overpayment by Chicago if they don't make the SC finals).

Curious to hear what people would think about Scuderi for Semin? Or if any package could be worked out with those two as the main pieces. Obviously, there're both liabilities at this point instead of assets. My view is that I wouldn't do it even though it's basically like Semin for $3.7m/yr for the first two years. The back end years would kill Pittsburgh unless he produces a lot more than he has.

it would figure that the year Pittsburgh has some cap space there are few desirable UFAs. I dislike Sutter as much as you, but I'd rather trade him for picks/prospect than for Sharp. I also don't think Sutter would be of interest to Bowman, despite his interest in another non-analytics guy in Vermette (which will be a massive overpayment by Chicago if they don't make the SC finals).
- jfkst1

Yup, exactly.. But you would rather have a 2nd at best round pick that might not even pan out and if he does it will be a few years? I would rather have a proven player now for 3 years. He's still a great player and Chicago will be needing a center.

EDIT: Due to Ruths comments, I don't think they'd trade Sutter unless it was in a package deal for Sid/Geno's wing. I have a feeling they don't want prospects or picks this year especially when there is basically one UFA in Frolik that is desired for top 6.

Sharp for Sutter sounds good to me

Curious to hear what people would think about Scuderi for Semin? Or if any package could be worked out with those two as the main pieces. Obviously, there're both liabilities at this point instead of assets. My view is that I wouldn't do it even though it's basically like Semin for $3.7m/yr for the first two years. The back end years would kill Pittsburgh unless he produces a lot more than he has.
- jfkst1

I would do it with Semin's 50% retained if only because it trades from a position of strength and adds to a position of weakness. Also we'd be marginally younger, haha

Yup, exactly.. But you would rather have a 2nd at best round pick that might not even pan out and if he does it will be a few years? I would rather have a proven player now for 3 years. He's still a great player and Chicago will be needing a center.

EDIT: Due to Ruths comments, I don't think they'd trade Sutter unless it was in a package deal for Sid/Geno's wing. I have a feeling they don't want prospects or picks this year especially when there is basically one UFA in Frolik that is desired for top 6.
- znagle

Prospects, and especially picks, generally have more universal value and can be flipped again if needed. I think there is a higher chance of Sharp continuing to decline than improving/maintaining his production. He needs to be very productive offensively to make sense at his cap hit. He's not good defensively or physical at all. At least with Semin, Carolina acknowledges they are trading a liability. That won't be a case with Sharp.

Sharp for Sutter sounds good to me
- EnzoD

I seriously think that trade would be a lose/lose. Sharp is aging and needs to be very productive for his cap hit to make sense for a cap tight team like Pittsburgh. Sutter is the antithesis of Quenneville's puck possession game. He'd probably be a healthy scratch somewhat like Vermette.

I'm still pulling for Yakupov. Young, scoring Russian winger for Geno with the potential to grow and develop. He's underperformed to this point so I don't think he would be too expensive. If all else fails, I could stomach Kunitz for Semin with 50% retained if CAR also threw in a draft pick.
- Id_Puck_Me

What would Pittsburgh offer for Yakupov?

What would Pittsburgh offer for Yakupov?
- Oil_Addict

Sutter or maybe Sutter + a prospect if we'd get a pick back.

What would Pittsburgh offer for Yakupov?
- Oil_Addict

A good negotiator never makes the first offer.