Tony Dean
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Location: Saint Paul, MN Joined: 09.20.2008
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jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Clackety Clack Joined: 02.09.2015
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You can take Sutter off of the Pens hands. Don't even have to give up a roster player. Just picks and prospects. |
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Mr. Tyler Bozak is available for a limited time offer! |
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GrimReefer
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Dundee, QC Joined: 02.22.2012
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Here we have rumors of Koivu to MTL... hum.. |
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Mr_Underwood
Nashville Predators |
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Location: McJesus take the wheel, NS Joined: 02.25.2015
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I hear Stephen Weiss is available. |
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Today @ 2:08 PM ET
You can take Sutter off of the Pens hands. Don't even have to give up a roster player. Just picks and prospects.
Yeah, send Haula to Pens and they can discuss all day long how Malkin broke his jaw. |
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soad_live
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Québec, QC Joined: 10.23.2008
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Here we have rumors of Koivu to MTL... hum.. - GrimReefer
Yeah
Also Coyle and Pominville.
I would be curious to know if Minnesota would be interested in Plekanec and Emelin |
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mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Joined: 10.23.2014
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I think at this point most astute Wild fans would be thrilled to have the Wild unload the contracts of Koivu, Pominville and even Coyle. I wouldn't mind that return, but getting Koivu to waive his NTC is going to prove pretty difficult. |
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mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Joined: 10.23.2014
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Its pretty apparent that Coyle is much better on the Wing than at center. I disagree on the take about Graovac though. He has all of the attributes to be a top 6 center in the NHL. Size, speed, hands, good in his own end, and can score. I think if they gave him the same opportunity that they gave Granlund or Haula he would establish himself pretty quickly. The thing Im very concerned about is the Wild going into next season with the status quo, and hoping for more growth from the youngsters. Granlund is a good fit in the East in a top 6 role, not in the West. He plays between the two best wingers on the team and cant top 8 goals? That's inexcusable for a supposed top 6 center. The Wild are better off packaging him with Spurgeon to try and get a good return out of an Eastern team. Soderberg had the same number of even strength points as Spezza and many other top players in the NHL, but had less minutes and not much PP time. I'd like to see what he could do given more minutes and a top 6 role. He's never had very good wingers either and has been stuck behind Bostons glut of good centers. Haula never looked the same after the brutal hit earlier in the year. If this team goes with the same roster mostly intact they are going to be in a struggle to even make the playoffs imo. |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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I think at this point most astute Wild fans would be thrilled to have the Wild unload the contracts of Koivu, Pominville and even Coyle. I wouldn't mind that return, but getting Koivu to waive his NTC is going to prove pretty difficult. - mnhockeyguy
curious what the deal is with Koivu? seemed like he maybe lost a step this year? |
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mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Joined: 10.23.2014
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curious what the deal is with Koivu? seemed like he maybe lost a step this year? - DoubleDown
He's never skated the same after his ankle injury a couple of seasons ago. I was surprised to read Friedmans take in the 30 thoughts column. What Koivu brings is defensive responsibility and he can take and win big draws. He still has a bit of play making ability but a lot of his assists are secondary. His drawbacks are his hesitancy to shoot despite having a good shot, his lack of speed, his turnovers, which is a recent phenomenon, and his salary. He's probably not a top 6 center anymore, which is what Montreal, like the Wild, really needs. |
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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins |
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Location: Yeah well that's like your opinion man, MA Joined: 04.27.2011
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hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 01.20.2014
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Oilers trade
Hopkins
Martin Marincin
to Minnesota
for
Jonas Brodin ( stud dman, very young and can play 25+ minutes a night)
Mikko Koivu
What do you think |
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fischslayer
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: MN Joined: 07.01.2010
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Oilers trade
Hopkins
Martin Marincin
to Minnesota
for
Jonas Brodin ( stud dman, very young and can play 25+ minutes a night)
Mikko Koivu
What do you think - hanleyaj
Brodin is going nowhere.
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Tony Dean
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Saint Paul, MN Joined: 09.20.2008
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Brodin is going nowhere. - fischslayer
Swap out Spurgeon for Brodin in that deal and I would be in! |
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hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 01.20.2014
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Swap out Spurgeon for Brodin in that deal and I would be in! - Tony Dean
Its Brodin or Dumba. |
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Tony Dean
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Saint Paul, MN Joined: 09.20.2008
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Its pretty apparent that Coyle is much better on the Wing than at center. I disagree on the take about Graovac though. He has all of the attributes to be a top 6 center in the NHL. Size, speed, hands, good in his own end, and can score. I think if they gave him the same opportunity that they gave Granlund or Haula he would establish himself pretty quickly. The thing Im very concerned about is the Wild going into next season with the status quo, and hoping for more growth from the youngsters. Granlund is a good fit in the East in a top 6 role, not in the West. He plays between the two best wingers on the team and cant top 8 goals? That's inexcusable for a supposed top 6 center. The Wild are better off packaging him with Spurgeon to try and get a good return out of an Eastern team. Soderberg had the same number of even strength points as Spezza and many other top players in the NHL, but had less minutes and not much PP time. I'd like to see what he could do given more minutes and a top 6 role. He's never had very good wingers either and has been stuck behind Bostons glut of good centers. Haula never looked the same after the brutal hit earlier in the year. If this team goes with the same roster mostly intact they are going to be in a struggle to even make the playoffs imo. - mnhockeyguy
Graovac is a very nice story BUT he is not a top end skater, needs to add a bunch of muscle to that frame, and he has yet to show an ability to contribute high end offense/defense versus top competition. Being the best player on a terrible Baby Wild squad means you stand out and garner a lot of attention but what does it really mean in terms of NHL ability?
Not trying to tear the kid apart just trying to bring it back to earth here that Fletcher and Flahr have done a great job of rebuilding the prospect ranks and infusing young talent to NHL roster but there is a SEVERE lack of a top end center prospect for this organization. |
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Tony Dean
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Saint Paul, MN Joined: 09.20.2008
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Its Brodin or Dumba. - hanleyaj
Maybe if it was Nurse or even Klefbom. |
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mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Joined: 10.23.2014
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Graovac is a very nice story BUT he is not a top end skater, needs to add a bunch of muscle to that frame, and he has yet to show an ability to contribute high end offense/defense versus top competition. Being the best player on a terrible Baby Wild squad means you stand out and garner a lot of attention but what does it really mean in terms of NHL ability?
Not trying to tear the kid apart just trying to bring it back to earth here that Fletcher and Flahr have done a great job of rebuilding the prospect ranks and infusing young talent to NHL roster but there is a SEVERE lack of a top end center prospect for this organization. - Tony Dean
Except that he did outplay Granlund and Haula during camp and the preseason last year. He's a pretty decent skater as well imo. I would have to think they give him a legit chance to stay with the big club this season cause status quo isn't cutting it and the salary cap is going to be an issue if they want to bring in a higher priced guy in a trade. |
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hanleyaj
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 01.20.2014
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Maybe if it was Nurse or even Klefbom. - Tony Dean
Hopkins is younger and better center then Mikko so why would oilers give a dman equivalent to Dumba or Brodin. Not happening. |
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mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Joined: 10.23.2014
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Brodin is going nowhere. - fischslayer
Dont think there is any way possible the Oilers would do this. They'll need Nuge to shoulder the big minutes while acclimating McDavid to the NHL. Brodin, while very good, probably isn't going to be a number 1. He didn't look too good split from Suter when they tried it... |
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DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC Joined: 07.28.2006
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He's never skated the same after his ankle injury a couple of seasons ago. I was surprised to read Friedmans take in the 30 thoughts column. What Koivu brings is defensive responsibility and he can take and win big draws. He still has a bit of play making ability but a lot of his assists are secondary. His drawbacks are his hesitancy to shoot despite having a good shot, his lack of speed, his turnovers, which is a recent phenomenon, and his salary. He's probably not a top 6 center anymore, which is what Montreal, like the Wild, really needs. - mnhockeyguy
Cool thanks for the insight |
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JakeTech19
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 04.20.2015
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Wasn't Alex Tuch originally drafted as a center-man? Big kid, slick hands, good playmaking skills. Hockey's future has him listed as a RW but I was under the impression he could play center as well. |
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mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Joined: 10.23.2014
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Wasn't Alex Tuch originally drafted as a center-man? Big kid, slick hands, good playmaking skills. Hockey's future has him listed as a RW but I was under the impression he could play center as well. - JakeTech19
I think they have him pegged at wing as far as I understand anyways... |
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mnhockeyguy
Minnesota Wild |
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Location: Frostbite Falls, MN Joined: 10.23.2014
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Cool thanks for the insight - DoubleDown
We love hockey talk on the Wild's thread... it doesn't happen nearly enough! |
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