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James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 20 @ 5:12 PM ET
James Tanner: Thoughts on Nordiques + Summer Movies
Mr.Pink
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 10.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
TanMan,

Have you seen the documentary Red Army? I was still pretty young when Larionov and the first wave first entered the league but it gave me a new respect for them, as well as sparked some memories.

Nothing blows up and it does not have Nicolas Cage.....but its worth the watch.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 20 @ 5:46 PM ET
Mr Tanner, agree on the Nordique, disagree on the logo. Dale Hawerchuk is not on this team. New franchise, new identity.
And may I present the California Golden Seals...
The_Hinter
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Im here because i have nothing better to do., AB
Joined: 07.11.2010

Jul 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
Mr Tanner, agree on the Nordique, disagree on the logo. Dale Hawerchuk is not on this team. New franchise, new identity.
- geta02it

100% agree with you. A new brand is needed.
The_Hinter
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Im here because i have nothing better to do., AB
Joined: 07.11.2010

Jul 20 @ 5:52 PM ET
100% agree with you. A new brand is needed.
- The_Hinter

What is a Nordique? I had to ask..
The logo is actually an igloo with a hockey stick. This is mentioned on page 3 of the media guides from 1979-80 through 1988-89, and on page 4 from 1989-90 through 1994-95.

Nordique is a term used to refer to the natives of the Ungava region in the province of Quebec (and is taught in grades 2 or 3 in the Quebec elementary school system - or at least it was taught in the 1940s)

Old School....
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 20 @ 5:56 PM ET
100% agree with you. A new brand is needed.
- The_Hinter


As long as there's light blue and the Fleur de Lis, I'm happy.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 20 @ 5:58 PM ET
As long as there's light blue and the Fleur de Lis, I'm happy.
- BINGO!

Always be that ESPECIALLY with Quebecor fitting the bill...
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 20 @ 6:13 PM ET
TanMan,

Have you seen the documentary Red Army? I was still pretty young when Larionov and the first wave first entered the league but it gave me a new respect for them, as well as sparked some memories.

Nothing blows up and it does not have Nicolas Cage.....but its worth the watch.

- Mr.Pink



If that is the one that Sportsnet aired this past winter that was about Mogilny's defection (at least partly) then I saw a bit of it, but it got erased before I could finish. Thought it was really interesting and would like to see the rest.

I love hockey docs.
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 20 @ 6:14 PM ET
100% agree with you. A new brand is needed.
- The_Hinter


Nah, you can't mess with perfection.
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

Jul 20 @ 6:15 PM ET
I don't want Las Vegas as 2nd city. Hartford would be the best choice but won't happen. After Hartford I think Seattle would be the best place for a team. What would their nickname be in Seattle - the Starbucks???
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 20 @ 6:16 PM ET
If it wins an Oscar it probably sucks. You're an idiot.
- CallMeIshmael


Yeah, probably. But am I? Cause the Oscars are usually puke-worthy movies like Forrest Gump and like A Beatiful Mind..... Did Die Hard win an Oscar? Did Back to the Future? Showgirls? Total Recall? Indiana Jones? Undercover Brother?

I rest my case.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jul 20 @ 6:37 PM ET
I don't want Las Vegas as 2nd city. Hartford would be the best choice but won't happen. After Hartford I think Seattle would be the best place for a team. What would their nickname be in Seattle - the Starbucks???
- BlackhawkMike



Portland, Oregon.



Mr.Pink
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 10.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 6:37 PM ET
If that is the one that Sportsnet aired this past winter that was about Mogilny's defection (at least partly) then I saw a bit of it, but it got erased before I could finish. Thought it was really interesting and would like to see the rest.

I love hockey docs.

- James_Tanner


Not sure if its the same one.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RedArmyMovie
jtommyt
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 08.02.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:44 PM ET
Yeah, probably. But am I? Cause the Oscars are usually puke-worthy movies like Forrest Gump and like A Beatiful Mind..... Did Die Hard win an Oscar? Did Back to the Future? Showgirls? Total Recall? Indiana Jones? Undercover Brother?

I rest my case.

- James_Tanner


You're just going by the eye test here Tanner... You really need to dig into the underlying metrics to develop a proper appreciation for a truly Oscar worthy movie. Have you seen Gump's WOWY's? Literally nothing happens that he's not a part of.

Beautiful Mind? It's like he's playing with an extra winger out there! Check out the Corsi numbers!

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:45 PM ET
Yeah, probably. But am I? Cause the Oscars are usually puke-worthy movies like Forrest Gump and like A Beatiful Mind..... Did Die Hard win an Oscar? Did Back to the Future? Showgirls? Total Recall? Indiana Jones? Undercover Brother?

I rest my case.

- James_Tanner

Eh, you talk about character development, but then mention Die Hard. Bruce Willis plays the same character in every single movie. He's incredibly boring. Same with Anthony Hopkins. Always, always the smartest person in every movie. That stuff bugs with me with supposed to he "great" Actors
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:46 PM ET
Not sure if its the same one.

https://www.youtube.com/user/RedArmyMovie

- Mr.Pink

the same one... an excellent watch. Worth the time. I think its on Netflix...
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:47 PM ET
Eh, you talk about character development, but then mention Die Hard. Bruce Willis plays the same character in every single movie. He's incredibly boring. Same with Anthony Hopkins. Always, always the smartest person in every movie. That stuff bugs with me with supposed to he "great" Actors
- sbroads24

Schindler's List...
James Tanner
Joined: 12.21.2013

Jul 20 @ 6:49 PM ET
Eh, you talk about character development, but then mention Die Hard. Bruce Willis plays the same character in every single movie. He's incredibly boring. Same with Anthony Hopkins. Always, always the smartest person in every movie. That stuff bugs with me with supposed to he "great" Actors
- sbroads24


No I said character development was something movie critics care about. I care about sex, guns and explosions. And comedy.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 20 @ 6:51 PM ET
Eh, you talk about character development, but then mention Die Hard. Bruce Willis plays the same character in every single movie. He's incredibly boring. Same with Anthony Hopkins. Always, always the smartest person in every movie. That stuff bugs with me with supposed to he "great" Actors
- sbroads24

Both were fun in Red 2, not exactly oscar worthy but still a fun watch...
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:54 PM ET
No I said character development was something movie critics care about. I care about sex, guns and explosions. And comedy.
- James_Tanner

Ah, gotcha.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 20 @ 6:55 PM ET
Both were fun in Red 2, not exactly oscar worthy but still a fun watch...
- geta02it

They are decent movies, but give me a movie like The Departed over a Die Hard movie any day.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 20 @ 7:11 PM ET
They are decent movies, but give me a movie like The Departed over a Die Hard movie any day.
- sbroads24

The first Die Hard was the only worth mentioning.
New Star Wars baby...
Mr.Pink
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 10.10.2013

Jul 20 @ 7:24 PM ET
The first Die Hard was the only worth mentioning.
New Star Wars baby...

- geta02it


Ash vs Evil Dead
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Jul 20 @ 7:27 PM ET
Ash vs Evil Dead
- Mr.Pink

Blade Runner...
Heavy Metal The Movie-Best Cartoon movie before Frozen (I kid, I kid)
Hot Dog the Movie-classic 80's ski boob flick
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jul 20 @ 7:33 PM ET
The Oscar movies generally favour classical, sweeping Hollywood dramas, so the Oscar winners often aren't the key films from that year in retrospect. Dances with Wolves wins instead of Goodfellas. Forrest Gump wins instead of Pulp Fiction. Kevin Costner and Mel Gibson have directing Oscars, Hitchcock never got one. Basically pick a notable director who hasn't won for directing and use the Costner/Gibson comparison, that says it all.

Sometimes you'll have a Godfather, or Silence of the Lambs, or Network that wins the Oscar and really is one of the great films of that year, but Oscar exludes entire genres, plays it safe and uplifting instead of edgy, and is mostly a marketing exercise.
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