Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.20.2013
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Next 3 should be pretty decent
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Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.20.2013
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Next 3 should be pretty decent - robin_steele264
They are the cream of the crop for sure. Any team would be happy to count the next 3 among their prospects. |
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Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals |
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Location: richmond, VA Joined: 10.11.2010
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Cannot believe Reinhart got a 1st and 2nd. But hey, if he comes close to his draft expectations, it'll be worth it. I just think the odds may be against him reaching that at this point.. |
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haymac
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: NWT Joined: 09.17.2011
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Paid far too much for him, based upon his recent development. Most Isles Fans were both surprised and very happy to trade him for 2 high picks.
Hope he does well, but not expecting much. |
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Cannot believe Reinhart got a 1st and 2nd. But hey, if he comes close to his draft expectations, it'll be worth it. I just think the odds may be against him reaching that at this point.. - Blackstrom2
I think if reinhart ends up being a solid 3-4 for Edmonton for the next 10-12 years its a good deal for both sides. Edmonton needed a young defenseman that can grow with the team. The oilers already have RNH McDavid Leon and Lander who are all under 25 I don't know where Barzal would've fit in the lineup |
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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They are the cream of the crop for sure. Any team would be happy to count the next 3 among their prospects.
No doubt, those 3 players are all excellent prospects and at least 2 of them would be in my top 5 prospects in NHL.
That said do you agree with some of the pundits ranking Edm as the best prospect system largely in part because of McDavid?
Obviously Nurse and Draisatl are great as well.
It does continue to amaze me that Edm has struggled to acquire other impressive prospects throughout the later rounds of the draft considering their opportunities.
Since 2003 Petry is arguably the only player to make an impact who wasn't a 1st round pick, obviously it is too soon to judge the last few drafts. |
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ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK Joined: 03.15.2014
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Paid far too much for him, based upon his recent development. Most Isles Fans were both surprised and very happy to trade him for 2 high picks.
Hope he does well, but not expecting much. - haymac
See how he does first? |
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Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.20.2013
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No doubt, those 3 players are all excellent prospects and at least 2 of them would be in my top 5 prospects in NHL.
That said do you agree with some of the pundits ranking Edm as the best prospect system largely in part because of McDavid?
Obviously Nurse and Draisatl are great as well.
It does continue to amaze me that Edm has struggled to acquire other impressive prospects throughout the later rounds of the draft considering their opportunities.
Since 2003 Petry is arguably the only player to make an impact who wasn't a 1st round pick, obviously it is too soon to judge the last few drafts. - belcherbd
I think you bring up very fair and accurate points about Oiler drafting past the 1st round. It's very much why Stu McGregor lost his job to Bob Green. I think without McDavid the Oilers still have great prospects in Nurse and Draisaitl but being number 1 would be tough. Add McDavid to anybody's pool of talent and they will jump several spots.
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geta02it
Calgary Flames |
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Location: AB Joined: 11.10.2007
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^ Thread closed. He wins. |
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Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.20.2013
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This is painful Hendo - rangerdanger94
I look forward to you telling me how horrible this is after every entry |
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They wont be in Hendo's top 10 for a while but I'm a fan of the Caleb Jones/Ethan Bear selections. Was hoping the Flames would take at least one of them. |
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Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 07.08.2015
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No barzal wouldnt really fit in your lineup but if you drafted 16 you wouldn't take barzal.
Imagine having Thomas Chabot at 16 and Travis Dermott at 33. I would much rather have two promising young dman then one injury prone prospect. Bonus is Dermott played with Mcdavid. I believe this trade will blow up in your face. |
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Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.20.2013
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They wont be in Hendo's top 10 for a while but I'm a fan of the Caleb Jones/Ethan Bear selections. Was hoping the Flames would take at least one of them. - fry
Bear in particular looked really good at the orientation camp this past summer. Far better than to be expected from someone of his pedigree. I think Pronman has him as the 5th best in the Oilers prospects (he doesn't count Draisaitl because he played so many NHL games). He was very physical and closed gaps well. |
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I look forward to you telling me how horrible this is after every entry - Matt_Henderson
It's a little tradition now |
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Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 07.08.2015
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No doubt, those 3 players are all excellent prospects and at least 2 of them would be in my top 5 prospects in NHL.
That said do you agree with some of the pundits ranking Edm as the best prospect system largely in part because of McDavid?
Obviously Nurse and Draisatl are great as well.
It does continue to amaze me that Edm has struggled to acquire other impressive prospects throughout the later rounds of the draft considering their opportunities.
Since 2003 Petry is arguably the only player to make an impact who wasn't a 1st round pick, obviously it is too soon to judge the last few drafts. - belcherbd
First edm. have couple very high end talent but beyond the first four they are pretty weak. Which goes into the drafting point.
In my opinion they are the worst drafting team in nhl. If you look at the first round picks over past 6 years all of them were mistakes except mcdavid. I know it is easy to look back and say that but it is really bad. If you just look at the positions they drafted it is easy to see they had no idea how to build a team. Defense and center are two most important position. They fail to see the value in Defense and this is why they keep struggling. |
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No barzal wouldnt really fit in your lineup but if you drafted 16 you wouldn't take barzal.
Imagine having Thomas Chabot at 16 and Travis Dermott at 33. I would much rather have two promising young dman then one injury prone prospect. Bonus is Dermott played with Mcdavid. I believe this trade will blow up in your face. - Bigdog1991
how is reinhart injury prone? |
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Bear in particular looked really good at the orientation camp this past summer. Far better than to be expected from someone of his pedigree. I think Pronman has him as the 5th best in the Oilers prospects (he doesn't count Draisaitl because he played so many NHL games). He was very physical and closed gaps well. - Matt_Henderson
Couldn't believe he dropped to the 5th round. The concern must have been that Shea Theodore made him look good. Watching a few games this year I would say it's the other way around. |
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No barzal wouldnt really fit in your lineup but if you drafted 16 you wouldn't take barzal.
Imagine having Thomas Chabot at 16 and Travis Dermott at 33. I would much rather have two promising young dman then one injury prone prospect. Bonus is Dermott played with Mcdavid. I believe this trade will blow up in your face. - Bigdog1991
The difference between Chabot/Dermott and Reinhart is that Reinhart is further along in his development. I think the oilers want to start pushing for the playoffs this year and Reinhart helps that more than 2 prospects that would be 3+ years away potentially. |
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Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues |
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Location: St. Louis, MO Joined: 07.08.2015
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The difference between Chabot/Dermott and Reinhart is that Reinhart is further along in his development. I think the oilers want to start pushing for the playoffs this year and Reinhart helps that more than 2 prospects that would be 3+ years away potentially. - rangerdanger94
This is a very good point but i would rather have those 2 prospects and franson or ehroff. Reinhart only has 8 games under his belt and he is still two years away from helping his team. They need experience and leadership on defense and they still dont have it. |
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Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 09.20.2013
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First edm. have couple very high end talent but beyond the first four they are pretty weak. Which goes into the drafting point.
In my opinion they are the worst drafting team in nhl. If you look at the first round picks over past 6 years all of them were mistakes except mcdavid. I know it is easy to look back and say that but it is really bad. If you just look at the positions they drafted it is easy to see they had no idea how to build a team. Defense and center are two most important position. They fail to see the value in Defense and this is why they keep struggling. - Bigdog1991
Slow down, cowboy.
2010: Hall is one of the best LW on the planet. Very difficult to frame his choice as a mistake.
2011: There isn't anyone from the 2011 draft I would trade Nuge for and don't reply if you are going to say Landeskog.
2012: Yakupov was the consensus number 1 and the best player *right now* might be Trouba and drafting him was NEVER going to happen. The choice was Yak or Murray and Yak>Murray
2013: How could Nurse possibly be considered a mistake. At all.
2014: Draisaitl is a wide framed centerman who just dominated the CHL during their playoffs
The number of mistakes in that list are pretty low. All of them? Not a chance. |
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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First edm. have couple very high end talent but beyond the first four they are pretty weak. Which goes into the drafting point.
In my opinion they are the worst drafting team in nhl. If you look at the first round picks over past 6 years all of them were mistakes except mcdavid. I know it is easy to look back and say that but it is really bad. If you just look at the positions they drafted it is easy to see they had no idea how to build a team. Defense and center are two most important position. They fail to see the value in Defense and this is why they keep struggling. - Bigdog1991
I don't know if I can agree with that. Vancouver for example has been pretty bad over a similar period of time, even if they haven't had the same opportunities.
Clb comes to mind as well when you look at the players they selected prior to Jarmo arriving.
I think RNH, Nurse and Tayler Hall were the right call and it is hard to discount Yakopov or Draisatl as well, although I wouldn't of gone with Draisatl personally. |
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This is a very good point but i would rather have those 2 prospects and franson or ehroff. Reinhart only has 8 games under his belt and he is still two years away from helping his team. They need experience and leadership on defense and they still dont have it. - Bigdog1991
True. Reinhart is a few years away from being a real impact player but he can push for a spot this year.
Franson or Erhoff could've helped for this season but you gotta believe there's a reason both those dude took so long to sign and in Franson's case yet to sign. Maybe the GMs know something we don't. And maybe neither of those players would've signed with Edmonton even...seems like they're waiting to go to teams that can contend. |
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