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ToddCordellVAN
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 09.04.2013

Oct 4 @ 11:17 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Ranking The NHL's Top-5 Defensemen
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:20 AM ET
Keith
Weber
Karlson
OEL
Doughty
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:23 AM ET
And here

We

Go..
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 11:25 AM ET
In before the haters of everyone except JJ.

"Karlsson doesn't play defense." "He should be a winger." "PKing is the decisive measure of defensive quality." "Look at his plus/minus rating from the year it was bad!" "I don't care, if you can't physically dominate someone, you can't be a top-5 defenseman. That's why Shea Weber, Ryan Suter, and Zdeno Chara (for some reason) are my top 3."

I think that's all the criticisms we'll see

Oh, and one of my own: Karlsson isn't as good turning right as he is turning left - he's not really what you would call an 'ambiturner'.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 4 @ 11:28 AM ET
Keith
Weber
Doughty
Subban
Hedman

Tanner refusing to ackowledge the only defenseman who's a lock for the HOF, who has 3 cup rings, two gold medals, 2 Norris tophies and was the latest Conn Smyth trophy for the best in the latest playoffs .... No wonder no one takes him seriously.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:29 AM ET
HockeyBuzz Hotstove: Hotstove: Ranking The NHL's Top-5 Defensemen
- ToddCordellVAN

JJ doesn't have OEL on the list or on the honorable mentions, also has Weber 2nd. Get 'em Tanner.
TRDevil
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toms River, NJ
Joined: 04.04.2014

Oct 4 @ 11:32 AM ET
Peter
(frank)ing
Harrold

Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Oct 4 @ 11:34 AM ET
Peter
(frank)ing
Harrold


- TRDevil


list over, man. list over!
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:35 AM ET
Keith
Weber
Doughty
Subban
Hedman

Tanner refusing to ackowledge the only defenseman who's a lock for the HOF, who has 3 cup rings, two gold medals, 2 Norris tophies and was the latest Conn Smyth trophy for the best in the latest playoffs .... No wonder no one takes him seriously.

- paulr

As u can see I listed Keith as my #1. But you're on glue to suggest Keith has a better shot at HOF then Doughty. Doughty is what, 5 yrs younger? And basically accomplished as much.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 4 @ 11:35 AM ET
Peter
(frank)ing
Harrold


- TRDevil



The man, only a matter of time before he gets picked up by PDB and is playing with Vlasic.
bubbapuck
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Fontucky, CA
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 4 @ 11:40 AM ET
Not listing Doughty on any top 5 defenseman list is someone just trying to be cute... Possibly troll.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:40 AM ET
As u can see I listed Keith as my #1. But you're on glue to suggest Keith has a better shot at HOF then Doughty. Doughty is what, 5 yrs younger? And basically accomplished as much.
- Bieksa#3

Yeah if about as much means minus the 2 Norris trophies and the Conn Smyhte?

paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 4 @ 11:43 AM ET
As u can see I listed Keith as my #1. But you're on glue to suggest Keith has a better shot at HOF then Doughty. Doughty is what, 5 yrs younger? And basically accomplished as much.
- Bieksa#3

Doughty is probably in the HOF discussion as well and I should have had him before Weber. If they were the same age I'd have a hard time pcking between him and Keith as to who I'd want on my team more. But the two Norris trophies give Keith a lock on the HOF that Doiughty doesn't quite have right now.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:44 AM ET
Yeah if about as much means minus the 2 Norris trophies and the Conn Smyhte?


- tomburton99

How old was Keith when he won his first Norris?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:44 AM ET
I didn't even realize ChiASSon had Stralmon at 3 ahead of Hedman, Weber, Doughty and many.

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:45 AM ET
OEL
Leddy
Muzzin
Boychuk
Stralman
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:47 AM ET
How old was Keith when he won his first Norris?
- Bieksa#3

27. Doughty will turn 26 in 2 months. What's your point. comparing players that haven't won INDIVIDUAL awards to players that have is just dumb. Doughty is one of the best. Keith is the best.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:47 AM ET
OEL
Leddy
Muzzin
Boychuk
Stralman

- DDM-Coga

For what it's worth I think oel is in the top 5.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:48 AM ET
OEL
Leddy
Muzzin
Boychuk
Stralman

- DDM-Coga

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:49 AM ET
27. Doughty will turn 26 in 2 months. What's your point. comparing players that haven't won INDIVIDUAL awards to players that have is just dumb. Doughty is one of the best. Keith is the best.
- tomburton99

So by your way of thinking Danny and Henrik are both way better then Stamkos?
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 4 @ 11:51 AM ET
I didn't even realize ChiASSon had Stralmon at 3 ahead of Hedman, Weber, Doughty and many.


- tomburton99



Stralman is the OEL of the Atlantic division.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:52 AM ET
So by your way of thinking Danny and Henrik are both way better then Stamkos?
- Bieksa#3

Stamkos has 2 Rocket Richard trophies. The Sedins combined have none.

Edit: All 3 have 2 major individual awards wins. You're on a roll.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
Stralman is the OEL of the Atlantic division.
- smellmyfinger

Actually Michael Stuart said Stralman=Doughty.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Oct 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
Stamkos has 2 Rocket Richard trophies. The Sedins combined have none.
- tomburton99



Details.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Oct 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
So by your way of thinking Danny and Henrik are both way better then Stamkos?
- Bieksa#3

Your point is who has done more to get to the HHOF not who's better. The Sedin Brother's resume has far more in it than Stamkos for any HHOF talk.
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