Bill Meltzer: Wrapup: Flyers Waste Stellar Neuvirth Perforance, Fall 3-1 to Dallas

tough one

Just a classic difficult schedule game, coupled with a penalty killing bonanza, and all against the best team in hockey, and a rested one at that. Severely outplayed but still had a chance to win. What can you do, right?

I hope to god that Jake stays on the top line next game and going forward. I hope it wasn't just a late game switch-a-roo and nothing more.

Second line was just awful possession wise. Couturier seemed to be the main culprit tonight -- he's been kind of invisible the last few games, even when the line did OK. Hakstol noticed bc Laughton took a few of his shifts late.

Manning-Ghost was shaky tonight. Wonder if AMac will draw in for Manning. It will probably end up being for Medvedev just cuz

Didn't expect much, but it shows once again who the number 1 goalie should be

So what are we giving up for stamkos?

Dallas transitions from defense to offense faster than any team I have seen in a while. Every time they got possession of the puck no matter where they were it seemed like they were on their way to a scoring chance, even if it was in their own zone.. It was impressive.

So what are we giving up for stamkos?
- JoeRussomanno

Voracek

Bill....you get to cover a very good team and a not so good team....still trying to figure what Hak is doing?

So what are the Islanders giving up for stamkos?
- JoeRussomanno

Fixed

Voracek
- 3flyerkids

Done!

Fixed
- ob18

Party pooper

Fridays are always killer for me. Had a tough time staying up to pay attention, but killing off the 6 or so penalties I saw let alone the 2nd of a back to back was going to be a difficult game to win.

Fixed
- ob18

3 team NYI/TB/Oilers or Flames or Jets deal involving hamonic and stamkos?

3 team NYI/TB/Oilers or Flames or Jets deal involving hamonic and stamkos?
- Giroux_Is_God

Could Isles deal Hamonic to Jets for Buff ( then sign him)
Don't want Stamkos in Toronto. That's all they are talking about . They ( fans)are confident he is coming.

1 goal in 30 games for Voracek is completely ridiculous.

I look forward to seeing a list compiled of the elite forwards in the NHL that have scored 1 goal this year while playing in all their teams games.

Thanks Bill. Neuvy is making a strong case for his cause for sticking around for another contract. If they decide to bring up Stolarz, it will be interesting to see which goalie they stick with. Simmer's line didn't look good at all. Any news on Luke? How did Mac do the last game out? I didn't hear his name called, or notice anything that made him stand out; not that I would expect him to stand out...lol.
I'd give V-check a break, because he needs better line mates.

1 goal in 30 games for Voracek is completely ridiculous.

I look forward to seeing a list compiled of the elite forwards in the NHL that have scored 1 goal this year while playing in all their teams games.
- PLindbergh31

That list does not exist

1 goal in 30 games for Voracek is completely ridiculous.

I look forward to seeing a list compiled of the elite forwards in the NHL that have scored 1 goal this year while playing in all their teams games.
- PLindbergh31

And let's face it, a goal during the breakaway-fest known as 3v3 hockey has a great big asterisk next to it.

Dallas transitions from defense to offense faster than any team I have seen in a while. Every time they got possession of the puck no matter where they were it seemed like they were on their way to a scoring chance, even if it was in their own zone.. It was impressive.
- MBFlyerfan

The John Klingberg effect.

(hope we'll be talking about the Shayne Gostisbehere effect soon!)

And let's face it, a goal during the breakaway-fest known as 3v3 hockey has a great big asterisk next to it.
- wolfhounds

Maybe so, but a goal that wins a game, and gains an extra point in the standings is a big goal.

Re Voracek:

When you combine his lack of production this year with his numbers during the last couple months of the 14-15 season, its very troubling. His ES numbers over the last 70 games or so are flat out bad. I'm starting to worry that in another year or 2 we'll all be lamenting the Voracek contract nearly as much as AMac's.

An OT goal counts in a players stats, which it should regardless of 3 vs 3.
That's what makes the shootout so skewed, the goals, & saves don't even count for the players individually.

Maybe so, but a goal that wins a game, and gains an extra point in the standings is a big goal.
- MJL

Yes it did win that one game. How many games could we have used a goal from one of our "elite" players to provide those extras points. Jake has simply not done the job IMO. I hope he comes out of it, but 30 games and 1 goal... Not good at all

Re Voracek:

When you combine his lack of production this year with his numbers during the last couple months of the 14-15 season, its very troubling. His ES numbers over the last 70 games or so are flat out bad. I'm starting to worry that in another year or 2 we'll all be lamenting the Voracek contract nearly as much as AMac's.
- BiggE

Continuing to play with 2 checkers isn't helping, message was sent weeks ago when he moved him to that line.
Enough already.