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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 14 @ 3:31 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Game Review: Shut Out in Chi-Town, Virtanen to World Jrs. The Vancouver Canucks ran into a hot goalie in Corey Crawford as they kicked off their six-game road trip with a 4-0 loss to the Chicago Blackhawks on Sunday.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Dec 14 @ 3:32 PM ET
That first goal shouldn't have had a Kane assist... NHL stats are a joke.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Dec 14 @ 3:37 PM ET
I'd like someone to go look at every Gretzky point when he got 200+, just to determine if in fact he actually touched the puck on those second assists he kept getting... especially in Edmonton...
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Dec 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
Would be good if McCann joined Canada too. Him and Virtanen would be a huge addition to the team.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Dec 14 @ 3:39 PM ET
That first goal shouldn't have had a Kane assist... NHL stats are a joke.
- kaptaan


I thought Kruger interfered the other game too when Kane scored. Seems like they want this streak to continue because it's good publicity for the league.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Dec 14 @ 3:40 PM ET
@ Kaptaan - The rules of assists states otherwise. Unfortunetely Boards/Glass/Posts/Stanchions don't count as the opposing players as no canuck had touched the puck between Kane to Panarin (shot) back to Panarin to Keith for a goal. I understand where people are a bit taken back by how he was able to get an assist, but you certainly wouldn't discount a player for bouncing the puck off the boards, making a pass, and not being credited with an assist.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Dec 14 @ 3:45 PM ET
Yep, Codes is correct.

The Hockey News has the video and a detailed breakdown of why Kane's assist is legit.

http://www.thehockeynews....games-in-bizarre-fashion/
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 14 @ 3:46 PM ET
I thought Kruger interfered the other game too when Kane scored. Seems like they want this streak to continue because it's good publicity for the league.
- RonPielep


At least it isn't as bad as baseball with Sosa, Bonds and McGuire.

Really, I have nothing against the players, it was the league looking the other way and then acting like they were so innocent. The league with their publicity encouraged the roid use and then acted all shocked when it came out.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 14 @ 4:05 PM ET
Nobody has said if this is bad or good option yet so I will repost
Vrbata+Sbisa/bartowski for Gudbrandson+ conditional 2nd - turns into 2nd+3rd if makes PO and 1st if makes ECF(won't happen).
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 14 @ 4:10 PM ET
Nobody has said if this is bad or good option yet so I will repost
Vrbata+Sbisa/bartowski for Gudbrandson+ conditional 2nd - turns into 2nd+3rd if makes PO and 1st if makes ECF(won't happen).

- Retinalz

Benning won't trade Sbisa or bartkowski. Weber dude...Weber/Jensen is the new bundle...
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 14 @ 4:13 PM ET
Uh, yeah. Good trade for Vancouver.
Florida would not do this imo.

Edit, Bart and vrby would be a steal.
Sbisa and vrby would give me pause. But I never had a problem with the guy
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 14 @ 4:13 PM ET
Nobody has said if this is bad or good option yet so I will repost
Vrbata+Sbisa/bartowski for Gudbrandson+ conditional 2nd - turns into 2nd+3rd if makes PO and 1st if makes ECF(won't happen).

- Retinalz

There is no way Florida makes that deal.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 14 @ 4:22 PM ET
Uh, yeah. Good trade for Vancouver.
Florida would not do this imo.

Edit, Bart and vrby would be a steal.
Sbisa and vrby would give me pause. But I never had a problem with the guy

- dbot





I don't think Florida would trade a young dman for two pending ufa's. JB might not want to trade Sbisa after signing him to that contract or we might have to eat salary and add more.

Is there any deals you see with Tampa? I think they might want a little shakeup.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 14 @ 4:23 PM ET


I don't think Florida would trade a young dman for two pending ufa's. JB might not want to trade Sbisa after signing him to that contract or we might have to eat salary and add more.

Is there any deals you see with Tampa? I think they might want a little shakeup.

- hillbillydeluxe

Stamkos for Weber and a 4th
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 14 @ 4:29 PM ET
Stamkos for Weber and a 4th
- A_SteamingLombardi


now we are talking, where is the emoticon with the hand wringing and drool? (I might be thinking of Taz)
Linden_4_Capt
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Dec 14 @ 5:03 PM ET
Stamkos for Weber and a 4th
- A_SteamingLombardi

Overpayment IMO. Weber and Jensen or no deal.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Dec 14 @ 5:20 PM ET


I don't think Florida would trade a young dman for two pending ufa's. JB might not want to trade Sbisa after signing him to that contract or we might have to eat salary and add more.

Is there any deals you see with Tampa? I think they might want a little shakeup.

- hillbillydeluxe



Anything we have for Hedman.
Or something for Drouin.
Hope that helps.

yours,
Captn Obvious.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Dec 14 @ 5:23 PM ET
@ Kaptaan - The rules of assists states otherwise. Unfortunetely Boards/Glass/Posts/Stanchions don't count as the opposing players as no canuck had touched the puck between Kane to Panarin (shot) back to Panarin to Keith for a goal. I understand where people are a bit taken back by how he was able to get an assist, but you certainly wouldn't discount a player for bouncing the puck off the boards, making a pass, and not being credited with an assist.
- Codes1087

alright, thanks for that. it's within the rules.

Although, I still believe the NHL is pretty lax on giving out points or keep accurate stats.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 14 @ 5:25 PM ET
alright, thanks for that. it's within the rules.

Although, I still believe the NHL is pretty lax on giving out points or keep accurate stats.

- kaptaan

Heaven forbid the NHL promote their own product.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 14 @ 5:52 PM ET
Heaven forbid the NHL promote their own product.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Promoting is okay. For me, I don't like the game management by refs when they choose to ignore stuff or want to even out pp opportunities between teams. or a team is trailing and they officiate like they want the trailing team to score and have the game go to ot.

If an infraction is a penalty in the first period and a pp leads to a goal, that same infraction in the last few minutes of the third should mean a pp opportunity late in a game.

The refs aren't deciding the game, the players are. Don't want to get the penalty, don't commit the infraction.

was just thinking, I think it was mentioned in one of the broadcasts, the Canucks were up there for most pp's- drawn penalties.... maybe I have nothing to complain about.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 14 @ 6:08 PM ET
That first goal shouldn't have had a Kane assist... NHL stats are a joke.
- kaptaan

They're just taking a story and running with it, Anything to draw more attention to the game.

Who better to do it with than a suspected rapist....

SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Dec 14 @ 6:12 PM ET
They're just taking a story and running with it, Anything to draw more attention to the game.

Who better to do it with than a suspected rapist....

- vancity787


Hes our Kobe Bryant of the NHL.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 14 @ 6:17 PM ET
Promoting is okay. For me, I don't like the game management by refs when they choose to ignore stuff or want to even out pp opportunities between teams. or a team is trailing and they officiate like they want the trailing team to score and have the game go to ot.

If an infraction is a penalty in the first period and a pp leads to a goal, that same infraction in the last few minutes of the third should mean a pp opportunity late in a game.

The refs aren't deciding the game, the players are. Don't want to get the penalty, don't commit the infraction.

was just thinking, I think it was mentioned in one of the broadcasts, the Canucks were up there for most pp's- drawn penalties.... maybe I have nothing to complain about.

- hillbillydeluxe

What do you expect from a league that allows staged fights.

Canucks do lead in PP opportunities
http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...PlayOpportunities/group/1
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 14 @ 6:25 PM ET
What do you expect from a league that allows staged fights.

Canucks do lead in PP opportunities
http://espn.go.com/nhl/st...PlayOpportunities/group/1

- A_SteamingLombardi


yep.

I hate the fights off the face off where they are jawing and just drop the gloves when the puck drops. Should be an automatic ejection for both players. that would be proper game management.

The same with some of the stuff that happens after clean hits.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 14 @ 6:26 PM ET
Gudbranson is already a top 4 shut down guy and is young. Not happening.

Edit:but if it did, I would be increadibly stoked! Maybe an Edler/Vrbata package?
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