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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:23 PM ET
Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks Philip Larsen for Power Play, Alex Burrows at Smashfest A look at how new acquisition Philip Larsen fits into the Vancouver power play next season, and Alex Burrows finishes second again at the Smashfest charity ping-pong tournament in Toronto.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 25 @ 2:40 PM ET
Hopefully Burrows ping-pong skills will translate into some quality on-ice play. I do have a feeling he's going to have a good season (didn't he say that he was working much harder this off-season then in previous years past?). I think he still has enough in the tank to be a productive player, as well as helping some of the young guys going forward. If he can pot 15-20 goals and be part of a good penalty kill, it will be a successful campaign (and maybe he ups his stock in terms of a possible TDL deal). Based on what he's been saying, it looks like he's rejuvenated and excited about coming into this season, and proving that he still has what it takes to be a productive member of the team. I'm certainly rooting for him
stringerbell
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 11.05.2015

Jul 25 @ 2:46 PM ET
The article makes it sound like the Sedins are great on the PP, and the problems all extend from the blueline. That's completely incorrect. For their entire careers, the Sedins have been extremely weak on the PP. Yet, they've always gotten first-unit minutes (plus).

It's not a coincidence that the few years when we had a very good PP - just so happen to be the years when we also had the best team in hockey. All the other year, and our PP has been utterly useless.

Go look up how much time the Sedins have spent on the PP in their careers - and then compare that to how many points they've scored on the PP (and then compare that to their 5-on-5 rates). It's abysmal. I can remember long stretches of time where the Sedins were only scoring one or two points for every 60 minutes they spent on the 1st unit PP. They haven't earned their PP time at all (and yet, the player who worked his way up to being our biggest offensive threat, Alex Burrows, always got shafted and got to watch from the bench for years).

That's why our PP always sucks. The people who get all the PP time don't really deserve it. And, when you reward the wrong people, it destroys the morale of everyone else.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jul 25 @ 2:47 PM ET
Hopefully Burrows ping-pong skills will translate into some quality on-ice play. I do have a feeling he's going to have a good season (didn't he say that he was working much harder this off-season then in previous years past?). I think he still has enough in the tank to be a productive player, as well as helping some of the young guys going forward. If he can pot 15-20 goals and be part of a good penalty kill, it will be a successful campaign (and maybe he ups his stock in terms of a possible TDL deal). Based on what he's been saying, it looks like he's rejuvenated and excited about coming into this season, and proving that he still has what it takes to be a productive member of the team. I'm certainly rooting for him
- Zogg


I'm also glad that Burrows will be back. Maybe he's a healthy scratch from time to time, but he'll be good in the room and as you say, he seems hungry for a good showing next season.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jul 25 @ 2:59 PM ET
Never thought of it that way but your right there powerplay time should be cut. Im hoping Eriksson plays with Baertchi and Horvat on the powerplay
@Stringerbell
Lostinarink
Joined: 10.30.2013

Jul 25 @ 3:05 PM ET
Ping Pong is exceptional for maintaining elite reflex speed.

I wonder why Torts would pull the plug on it?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:18 PM ET
The article makes it sound like the Sedins are great on the PP, and the problems all extend from the blueline. That's completely incorrect. For their entire careers, the Sedins have been extremely weak on the PP. Yet, they've always gotten first-unit minutes (plus).

It's not a coincidence that the few years when we had a very good PP - just so happen to be the years when we also had the best team in hockey. All the other year, and our PP has been utterly useless.

Go look up how much time the Sedins have spent on the PP in their careers - and then compare that to how many points they've scored on the PP (and then compare that to their 5-on-5 rates). It's abysmal. I can remember long stretches of time where the Sedins were only scoring one or two points for every 60 minutes they spent on the 1st unit PP. They haven't earned their PP time at all (and yet, the player who worked his way up to being our biggest offensive threat, Alex Burrows, always got shafted and got to watch from the bench for years).

That's why our PP always sucks. The people who get all the PP time don't really deserve it. And, when you reward the wrong people, it destroys the morale of everyone else.

- stringerbell

I don't think you're being objective enough. The Sedins PP numbers, and minutes on the PP, are a direct correlation to the teams complete lack of secondary scoring for the majority of their careers. In other words, they were out there so much because the team didn't have a very good second option….they still don't.

Daniel has 330 PPP in 942 career games, that more than 1/3 of his points on the PP. Henrik has 337 PPP in 970 games, again, more than 1/3 of his points on the PP.
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jul 25 @ 3:29 PM ET
Ping Pong is exceptional for maintaining elite reflex speed.

I wonder why Torts would pull the plug on it?

- Lostinarink

It doesn't help shot-blocking skills.
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Jul 25 @ 3:30 PM ET
Torts....What a piece of work.

I'm surprised he let the guys warm up with a soccer ball.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 25 @ 3:32 PM ET
Yes today was Tanbirs prediction of "guaranteed E Kane to Vancouver". He had even bet his twitter account on it
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jul 25 @ 3:33 PM ET
Yes today was Tanbirs prediction of "guaranteed E Kane to Vancouver". He had even bet his twitter account on it
- Retinalz


So he deleted his account im assuming
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jul 25 @ 3:35 PM ET
So he deleted his account im assuming
- phyllee

looks like
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 25 @ 3:38 PM ET
Yes today was Tanbirs prediction of "guaranteed E Kane to Vancouver". He had even bet his twitter account on it
- Retinalz

Today is a good day
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 25 @ 3:46 PM ET
Hopefully Burrows ping-pong skills will translate into some quality on-ice play. I do have a feeling he's going to have a good season (didn't he say that he was working much harder this off-season then in previous years past?). I think he still has enough in the tank to be a productive player, as well as helping some of the young guys going forward. If he can pot 15-20 goals and be part of a good penalty kill, it will be a successful campaign (and maybe he ups his stock in terms of a possible TDL deal). Based on what he's been saying, it looks like he's rejuvenated and excited about coming into this season, and proving that he still has what it takes to be a productive member of the team. I'm certainly rooting for him
- Zogg

lol
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 25 @ 3:46 PM ET
Hopefully Burrows ping-pong skills will translate into some quality on-ice play. I do have a feeling he's going to have a good season (didn't he say that he was working much harder this off-season then in previous years past?). I think he still has enough in the tank to be a productive player, as well as helping some of the young guys going forward. If he can pot 15-20 goals and be part of a good penalty kill, it will be a successful campaign (and maybe he ups his stock in terms of a possible TDL deal). Based on what he's been saying, it looks like he's rejuvenated and excited about coming into this season, and proving that he still has what it takes to be a productive member of the team. I'm certainly rooting for him
- Zogg

lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 25 @ 3:54 PM ET
lol
- LordHumungous

Evander Kane is apparently downtown Vancouver right now...hopefully he isn't meeting Benning at Blue Water
the end
Location: CA
Joined: 02.02.2009

Jul 25 @ 3:55 PM ET
I don't think you're being objective enough. The Sedins PP numbers, and minutes on the PP, are a direct correlation to the teams complete lack of secondary scoring for the majority of their careers. In other words, they were out there so much because the team didn't have a very good second option….they still don't.

Daniel has 330 PPP in 942 career games, that more than 1/3 of his points on the PP. Henrik has 337 PPP in 970 games, again, more than 1/3 of his points on the PP.

- LeftCoaster

I liked it better when Vantel was the one dissing the Sedins ......
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 25 @ 3:56 PM ET
Torts was a numbskull... didn't want the players to have any fun.

Also, trading Tanev makes sense if you get back a dman prospect with some proven ability (Slater Koekkoek) that will translate into developing at the same time as Joulevi and a gritty forward like Callahan... for a Tanev...

The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 25 @ 4:06 PM ET
Torts was a numbskull... didn't want the players to have any fun.

Also, trading Tanev makes sense if you get back a dman prospect with some proven ability (Slater Koekkoek) that will translate into developing at the same time as Joulevi and a gritty forward like Callahan... for a Tanev...

- kaptaan



Callahan are you insane. I thought my proposals were nuts.

Tanev for Landeskog
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

Jul 25 @ 4:08 PM ET
Callahan are you insane. I thought my proposals were nuts.

Tanev for Landeskog

- The_Kuze



Tanev, Horvat, Boeser 2 1st and 2 2nd for

McDavid
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Jul 25 @ 4:10 PM ET
Callahan are you insane. I thought my proposals were nuts.

Tanev for Landeskog

- The_Kuze

Uh, you forgot where we get back a top 10 overall dman prospect who reckons to be a legit 1st pair or minimum 2nd pair dman with offensive abilities who can QB the PP...
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:16 PM ET
Anyone else concerned that Perry Pearns nephew is their scout for Larsen.

Nothing against Daine Todd, who is clearly a pretty decent hockey player but it seems more along the lines of the " keeping it in the family " mentality that we have seen this group use when evaluating and acquiring players.

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jul 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
Anyone else concerned that Perry Pearns nephew is their scout for Larsen.

Nothing against Daine Todd, who is clearly a pretty decent hockey player but it seems more along the lines of the " keeping it in the family " mentality that we have seen this group use when evaluating and acquiring players.

- belcherbd


ha. i thought the same thing.
although, i'm sure when doing any scouting you talk to players/coaches/trainers of the player to get a read and understand how they're viewed.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 25 @ 4:27 PM ET
ha. i thought the same thing.
although, i'm sure when doing any scouting you talk to players/coaches/trainers of the player to get a read and understand how they're viewed.

- dbot


Yup, and it doesn't really matter but it seems like many of the players this team acquires has some sort of a connection to one of the staff.

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 25 @ 4:32 PM ET
Yup, and it doesn't really matter but it seems like many of the players this team acquires has some sort of a connection to one of the staff.
- belcherbd


I don't really have many expectations for Larsen anyways. If he plays well great, if not then it's really not a surprise. Maybe he's a better player now but he was underwhelming in Dallas, and as Carol showed us the leading scorer for D in the league was Barker.
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