Ryan Wilson: Ron Hainsey trade breakdown Ron Hainsey trade breakdown

But we can rule out pens will send their 1st in a package for a big trade correct.

So other then maybe trading fehr...are the pens are done?

But we can rule out pens will send their 1st in a package for a big trade correct.

So other then maybe trading fehr...are the pens are done?
- nh4442

Nope.

Ouch. A 2nd round pick for this type of player. Buckle up baby as things might get interesting...

Anyone remember what the timetables were for Maatta and Sheary?

Daley is 6 weeks, which is April 6, leaving 2 games remaining in the season. Does he play in either of those games if he is ready? Or do the Pens keep him out so they can use his LTIR cap space for the remainder of the season?

If none of those 3 are on LTIR throughout the rest of the season then the Pens are essentially out of cap space with the Hainsey deal.

Anyone remember what the timetables were for Maatta and Sheary?

Daley is 6 weeks, which is April 6, leaving 2 games remaining in the season. Does he play in either of those games if he is ready? Or do the Pens keep him out so they can use his LTIR cap space for the remainder of the season?

If none of those 3 are on LTIR throughout the rest of the season then the Pens are essentially out of cap space with the Hainsey deal.
- PensFan1103

Maatta and Daley are out until the playoffs. Sheary will be back mid March

Yeesh... the price tag to retain half his salary seemed to bump that up from a 4th or 3rd to our second... but we did need another NHL ready body.

Ouch sounds like we lost on this one. Wish we got smith...

Ouch sounds like we lost on this one. Wish we got smith...
- maxglider723

Well uh he is still available...

Do you think Quincey is better then Hainsey ? I know he makes less and has been respectable defensively. I believe his issue in Detroit was he just wasn't worth the coin they were paying him, but he was and seems to still be fairly serviceable. I ask because I wouldn't mind an un biased opinion on what Quincey might fetch. I don't think the Pens didn't target him because of the division since the Canes are obviously in the same division as well. Are they very similar or does one stand above the other ?

Do you think Quincey is better then Hainsey ? I know he makes less and has been respectable defensively. I believe his issue in Detroit was he just wasn't worth the coin they were paying him, but he was and seems to still be fairly serviceable. I ask because I wouldn't mind an un biased opinion on what Quincey might fetch. I don't think the Pens didn't target him because of the division since the Canes are obviously in the same division as well. Are they very similar or does one stand above the other ?
- blizzzard

No.

Maatta and Daley are out until the playoffs. Sheary will be back mid March
- cap1681

I love the available cap space if Maatta and Daley both remain out until the playoffs, but neither player really fills me with confidence that they can step right back into the lineup without a game or two to get back up to game speed. Especially if they both get put back in as a pair, could be a disaster in a playoff game. Although if Hainsey plays well enough, then one of Maatta and Daley will more than likely be the healthy scratch, unless they roll 7 D.

I love the available cap space if Maatta and Daley both remain out until the playoffs, but neither player really fills me with confidence that they can step right back into the lineup without a game or two to get back up to game speed. Especially if they both get put back in as a pair, could be a disaster in a playoff game. Although if Hainsey plays well enough, then one of Maatta and Daley will more than likely be the healthy scratch, unless they roll 7 D.
- PensFan1103

LTIR isn't as magical as you think.

LTIR isn't as magical as you think.
- Feds91Stammer

When the Pens are already over the cap using Dupuis' LTIR, then yes, it is dollar for dollar.

When the Pens are already over the cap using Dupuis' LTIR, then yes, it is dollar for dollar.
- PensFan1103

If that was the case Maatta would already be on LTIR...

Anyone remember what the timetables were for Maatta and Sheary?

Daley is 6 weeks, which is April 6, leaving 2 games remaining in the season. Does he play in either of those games if he is ready? Or do the Pens keep him out so they can use his LTIR cap space for the remainder of the season?

If none of those 3 are on LTIR throughout the rest of the season then the Pens are essentially out of cap space with the Hainsey deal.
- PensFan1103

GMJR said that Sheary could be back next week.

If that was the case Maatta would already be on LTIR...
- Feds91Stammer

Penguins typically don't put their players on LTIR until they need the space since they can use it retroactively.

I'm not sold that either player doesn't play before the playoffs in which case their LTIR is inconsequential. Which is why I said that if they were out until the playoffs then the cap space is nice.

GMJR said that Sheary could be back next week.
- cory7321

That's good news, I was thinking that his original timetable was longer. Sounds like he is either ahead of schedule or I am remembering incorrectly on his original timetable.

Ouch. A 2nd round pick for this type of player. Buckle up baby as things might get interesting...
- joescullz

probably could have picked up franson and kulikov for that second

probably could have picked up franson and kulikov for that second
- homiedclown

Kulikov would be subtraction by addition so a 2nd would be overpayment.

probably could have picked up franson and kulikov for that second
- homiedclown

Just give us franson and keep the bum kulikov

Ouch sounds like we lost on this one. Wish we got smith...
- maxglider723

That's hard to say without knowing what the cost for Smith is, if you're looking at it in a vacuum then yes getting Smith would be the better move from a player standpoint but I would think that Smith would cost more, especially with 50% salary retention.

The bigger and better news is Schultz being back at practice. With no restrictions!

probably could have picked up franson and kulikov for that second
- homiedclown

Why would they want both? With Shultz apparently close to returning there would only be 1 open spot on the right side and both Franson & Kulikov play RD. Adding Franson to be the bottom pairing RD behind Letang & Shultz would have been fine but acquiring both makes almost no sense.