Bob Duff: Tatar brings plenty in return The Detroit Red Wings can aid their rebuild with the first, second and third-round picks acquired for left-winger Tomas Tatar.

Kenny did well on the Tatar trade.

What the hell!? Holland won the day. Cripes

he should of at least got something for Green though!

It was a decent return. Let's not get carried away.

Paul_and_Wings

rafi.

It was a decent return. Let's not get carried away.
- Feds91Stammer

u cant say that. explain how it was just a decent return and what kenny could of actually gotten?

u cant say that. explain how it was just a decent return and what kenny could of actually gotten?
- wingz4life

Okay question for you. If CHI traded Saad today and got that return what is your opinion on that?

Okay question for you. If CHI traded Saad today and got that return what is your opinion on that?
- Feds91Stammer

who the (frank) cares? they didnt trade Saad, (frank) does that have to do with anything?

Paul_and_Wings

rafi.
- Feds91Stammer

The (frank) you want?

The (frank) you want?
- RafiDRW

question for u. if the wings got Lafontaine instead of Yzerman do they still win all those cups. i need to know because we are taking what-if scenarios today in this thread that dont mean a (frank)ing thing..

who the (frank) cares? they didnt trade Saad, (frank) does that have to do with anything?
- wingz4life

It’s a good return for Tats. Couldn’t ask for better without an extreme ripoff. But let’s face it, Holland (frank)ed up today after all the rumors involving Green, DDK, Glendening, Nyquist, and AA and admitting he’s still trying for the (frank)ing playoffs like a (frank)ing idiot.

who the (frank) cares? they didnt trade Saad, (frank) does that have to do with anything?
- wingz4life

Asking about your perceived value of a comparable player... I (frank)ING CARE

It’s a good return for Tats. Couldn’t ask for better without an extreme ripoff. But let’s face it, Holland (frank)ed up today after all the rumors involving Green, DDK, Glendening, Nyquist, and AA and admitting he’s still trying for the (frank)ing playoffs like a (frank)ing idiot.
- RafiDRW

Green- his current status hurt his value but yeah should of gotten something
DDK-not getting out from that deal unless u take on something poopty too
Glendening-meh, minimal cap hit
Nyquist-i say keep him, need some NHL experience as they go even younger here
AA-not unless its for a young defenseman of the same regard..

The (frank) you want?
- RafiDRW

Answering your Q from the last thread

Asking about your perceived value of a comparable player... I (frank)ING CARE
- Feds91Stammer

if Saad got traded,,, but he didnt. the whole premise of your line of thinking there is BS to start with..

if Saad got traded,,, but he didnt. the whole premise of your line of thinking there is BS to start with..
- wingz4life

Great conversation wienerhead

Great conversation wienerhead
- Feds91Stammer

u know that one time Yzerman/Osgood got traded but they didnt.. what would their value of been?

or what if the wings traded Datsyuk in his prime what could they of gotten for him?

WHO the (frank) cares lol. come on dude. i dont like kenny either but i think he did fine here..

u know that one time Yzerman/Osgood got traded but they didnt.. what would their value of been?

or what if the wings traded Datsyuk in his prime what could they of gotten for him?

WHO the (frank) cares lol. come on dude. i dont like kenny either but i think he did fine here..
- wingz4life

Fine yes. Great no.

Hey, Hitler with a root beer float- I told you Kenny Haul would do good at the deadline

Bob was right about Kenny all along


Thanks Duff!

Hey, Hitler with a root beer float- I told you Kenny Haul would do good at the deadline
- DrunkenCanuck

Still didn't trade Green. But I'm happy he traded Tatar. I wasn't expecting that.

hard to imagine that Green couldn't even fetch a 2nd rounder. They should of at least taken something for him.

I appreciate that Holland got fair value returns for Mrazek and Tatar, but it sucks that they are the victims (or rather, the ONLY victims) of the better-late-than-never rebuilding effort. They are productive players on reasonable (if maybe a teensy bit high) contracts. Trading them gets the team out of cap hell for now, but they weren't why team was in cap hell in the first place.

Obviously that's a big reason why those players were the ones moved -- other teams actually wanted them enough to part with valuable assets. But I hate that Tatar and Mrazek had to die for Kenny's sins, when the primary products of his sinfulness are still there clogging up the roster.

It won't happen, but this offseason I would love to see the team make a serious effort at taking out the garbage (starting with Holland and Blashill). Would somebody take DeKeyser or Ericsson for a mid-late pick, expiring contract, or even just a minor league nobody if Detroit was willing to retain up to $1 million? How about Nielsen, Abdelkader, or Daley? Not all of them obviously, but at least one or two.

I know that looks like "trading something for nothing," but that "nothing" is actually cap and roster space, which IS a legitimately valuable asset worth pursuing in its own right. The Red Wings have too many negative-value contracts locked up for too long, and they'll continue to stall a full rebuild and limit opportunities for an as-quick-as-possible turnaround until at least a few of those awful deals are gone, one way or another.