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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Jan 15 @ 4:53 PM ET
Mike Augello: Gardiner’s troubles symptomatic of Leafs failures to build up defense
CanadianBodmon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.04.2011

Jan 15 @ 5:01 PM ET
First.

Hyman - Auston - Kaps

Jakey - Tavares - Marn

Old man - Kadri - brown/the zohan

Little man - Par -brown/ the zohan


captain morgan - nylander trade
derms -old man on D/zait
?? - zaitsev/old man on D
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jan 15 @ 5:13 PM ET
Why does Hamonic keep getting mentioned as a missed opportunity? Didn't he say on the record he only wanted to go to a western Canada team? Your solution is a malcontent player?
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Jan 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
The Oilers claim everyone off Waivers lol.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 15 @ 5:17 PM ET
Jake can't play forward, just get him some help and move Zaitsev to the 3rd pair or #7 for awhile.

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 15 @ 5:18 PM ET
Hyman AM Nylander
Johnsson Tavares Kap
Marleau Kadri Marner


I'd like to see this for a few games before sending Nylander to the minors forever
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 15 @ 5:20 PM ET
i am skeptical on how effective they both are in 2019

Muzzin elite D in 2013-14 ..still decent i assume but dont watch enough Kings games to know

- senstroll
fair points for sure
I don't either. Muzzin is still very effective from what I've seen and the numbers' don't lie
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jan 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
Hyman AM Nylander
Johnsson Tavares Kap
Marleau Kadri Marner


I'd like to see this for a few games before sending Nylander to the minors forever

- Garnie


Aren't we trading Melander for Brett Pesce and Joe Pesci?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 15 @ 5:25 PM ET
Aren't we trading Melander for Brett Pesce and Joe Pesci?
- leafsfann


I don't know, but until he gets traded he needs to be on 1 of the lines.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Jan 15 @ 5:28 PM ET
Why O why, do we pretend that we can compete for the cup, and as such, lose out on acquiring assists? The Leafs have a very good team but let’s be honest, we are not ready to compete in the war that the playoffs become, to the point that we can win the cup. Last year we should have acquired assets and traded Bozak, JVR, and Leo. This year Gardiner should be used to acquire assets at the deadline. Then we bring up some Marlie D and give them some play time. With those assets from what should have happened last year and this year, we would be in a much better position to make a serious run. The window for winning the cup is short and u need to go all in for a particular year or two. All the Leafs are doing is setting themselves up to be competitive for 4 to 6 years, but never really a serious contender.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jan 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
Why O why, do we pretend that we can compete for the cup, and as such, lose out on acquiring assists? The Leafs have a very good team but let’s be honest, we are not ready to compete in the war that the playoffs become, to the point that we can win the cup. Last year we should have acquired assets and traded Bozak, JVR, and Leo. This year Gardiner should be used to acquire assets at the deadline. Then we bring up some Marlie D and give them some play time. With those assets from what should have happened last year and this year, we would be in a much better position to make a serious run. The window for winning the cup is short and u need to go all in for a particular year or two. All the Leafs are doing is setting themselves up to be competitive for 4 to 6 years, but never really a serious contender.
- Bullot



leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Jan 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
Why O why, do we pretend that we can compete for the cup, and as such, lose out on acquiring assists? The Leafs have a very good team but let’s be honest, we are not ready to compete in the war that the playoffs become, to the point that we can win the cup. Last year we should have acquired assets and traded Bozak, JVR, and Leo. This year Gardiner should be used to acquire assets at the deadline. Then we bring up some Marlie D and give them some play time. With those assets from what should have happened last year and this year, we would be in a much better position to make a serious run. The window for winning the cup is short and u need to go all in for a particular year or two. All the Leafs are doing is setting themselves up to be competitive for 4 to 6 years, but never really a serious contender.
- Bullot


When you put it that way, it makes me remember all the years Mats Sundin didn't have any wingers to play with...
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jan 15 @ 5:49 PM ET
Missed on Vats from Ducks is what you want to say...
PinkSock
Montreal Canadiens
Location: https://nhl66.ir/
Joined: 07.23.2010

Jan 15 @ 5:56 PM ET
Polak was the straw stirring the drink on the back end
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 15 @ 5:59 PM ET
Why O why, do we pretend that we can compete for the cup, and as such, lose out on acquiring assists? The Leafs have a very good team but let’s be honest, we are not ready to compete in the war that the playoffs become, to the point that we can win the cup. Last year we should have acquired assets and traded Bozak, JVR, and Leo. This year Gardiner should be used to acquire assets at the deadline. Then we bring up some Marlie D and give them some play time. With those assets from what should have happened last year and this year, we would be in a much better position to make a serious run. The window for winning the cup is short and u need to go all in for a particular year or two. All the Leafs are doing is setting themselves up to be competitive for 4 to 6 years, but never really a serious contender.
- Bullot



walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:01 PM ET
fair points for sure
I don't either. Muzzin is still very effective from what I've seen and the numbers' don't lie

- AlfieisKing

How would you know? Nobody ever watches any other teams play I've been told.

To be fair, Muzzin is my 3rd favourite Chinese player
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 15 @ 6:01 PM ET
If you listened to Twitter today you'd think gardiner is 3pts/year dman who is -50 every year

walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:02 PM ET
Missed on Vats from Ducks is what you want to say...
- dozerD10

He's been absolutely awful since coming to the Eastern Conference
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:05 PM ET
Polak was the straw stirring the drink on the back end
- PinkSock

Along with Carrick.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Jan 15 @ 6:07 PM ET
Probably why we haven't trade for a D. Most of the names mentioned are gawd awful.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 15 @ 6:20 PM ET
Leafs fans are supposed to be outraged that tie domi is wearing a Habs jersey?


Seems more people upset that leaf fans don't give a poop about this
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Jan 15 @ 6:25 PM ET
First.

Hyman - Auston - Kaps

Jakey - Tavares - Marn

Old man - Kadri - brown/the zohan

Little man - Par -brown/ the zohan


captain morgan - nylander trade
derms -old man on D/zait
?? - zaitsev/old man on D

- CanadianBodmon



This is a flaming take.

Terrible
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jan 15 @ 6:26 PM ET
He's been absolutely awful since coming to the Eastern Conference
- walshyleafsfan


Yeah not saying he was the answer just an option that was available...
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jan 15 @ 6:28 PM ET
Yeah not saying he was the answer just an option that was available...
- dozerD10

Oh, I imagine there are a lot of options available. Just hard to find one that will help. Luckily we've seemed to focus a bit more on D the last couple of drafts.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jan 15 @ 6:28 PM ET
Meh I'll worry in 3 weeks
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