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Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Apr 24 @ 3:30 PM ET
Carol Schram: Checking in on ex-Canucks' playoff peformances and setting up the U18 QFs Coach John Tortorella tops the list of one-time Vancouver Canucks who are still alive in the crazy 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs, plus a look ahead at Thursday's quarterfinal matchups at the World U18 Championship.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 24 @ 3:35 PM ET
NFL Draft tomorrow

If you want to see a gunslinger GM watch John Schneider from the Seahawks. Watch and learn JB
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 24 @ 3:38 PM ET
Thanks Carol.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 24 @ 3:39 PM ET
NFL Draft tomorrow

If you want to see a gunslinger GM watch John Schneider from the Seahawks. Watch and learn JB

- VanHockeyGuy


JB and the Seahawks from office are polar opposites. I've read a lot now articles/interviews on how the Hawks run things, they do a lot of homework to try to exploit market inefficiencies in trades and the draft. The Pats do the same as well.

I can't imagine JB doing the same, judging from his interviews and the moves he's made.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 24 @ 3:46 PM ET
Friedman again on his podcast:




So at bare minimum it was 5th overall + another asset like Tanev, MTL wanted Horvat too but I doubt Benning was going to include him, probably a different asset instead.

- Nucker101


Realistically, I could see the Habs pushing for Horvat and getting turned down.

Friedman is decent on rumours but he speculates a lot and calls it speculation so he doesn't get himself in trouble but instantly people leave out the part when he says "...and I'm only speculating here, I havent heard anything". I know you said the other day he was willing to trade all those assets...and Horvats name was in there. There's a line in the story. It separates the part where Benning confirmed he was looking to acquire Subban and then part that's speculation which is the assets Friedman mentions.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 24 @ 3:48 PM ET
Realistically, I could see the Habs pushing for Horvat and getting turned down.

Friedman is decent on rumours but he speculates a lot and calls it speculation so he doesn't get himself in trouble but instantly people leave out the part when he says "...and I'm only speculating here, I havent heard anything". I know you said the other day he was willing to trade all those assets...and Horvats name was in there. There's a line in the story. It separates the part where Benning confirmed he was looking to acquire Subban and then part that's speculation which is the assets Friedman mentions.

- boonerbuck



Fair enough, the "+" part of the package does seem speculative on Friedman's part.

But he sounds pretty certain that 5th overall/Dubois was the centerpiece.
fubtastik
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Main St Van, BC
Joined: 06.29.2015

Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
Would you trade for Subban now if he was available?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
JB and the Seahawks from office are polar opposites. I've read a lot now articles/interviews on how the Hawks run things, they do a lot of homework to try to exploit market inefficiencies in trades and the draft. The Pats do the same as well.

I can't imagine JB doing the same, judging from his interviews and the moves he's made.

- Nucker101


Yup, he's a master at trading down and getting more picks. He's only got 5 picks as of now, he'll pick up at least 2 more before he's done. That's not in JB's makeup he's too passive-aggressive.
93Nucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 04.04.2018

Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Thanks Carol!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Would you trade for Subban now if he was available?
- fubtastik


why?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 24 @ 3:52 PM ET
why?
- VanHockeyGuy


expediting the rebuild, and filling holes by creating others is always more fun
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
Fair enough, the "+" part of the package does seem speculative on Friedman's part.

But he sounds pretty certain that 5th overall/Dubois was the centerpiece.

- Nucker101


Fair enough, the "+" part of the package does seem speculative on Friedman's part.

But he sounds pretty certain that 5th overall/Dubois was the centerpiece.

- Nucker101


That would have been terrible. That's what re-signing the Sedins brings... not only does the owner keep pushing for the over the top player to add to them... but then re-signing them again because those over the top players were brought in.

This really does sound like a Linden/Owner thing to me.

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
expediting the rebuild, and filling holes by creating others is always more fun
- Codes1087


we'd overpay, so no.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Would you trade for Subban now if he was available?
- fubtastik



He turns 30 in a couple of weeks so there's your answer. I know the "playoffs asap" crowd doesn't like that answer, but Benning should be focused on acquiring players that will peak with EP/Hughes/Boeser
93Nucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 04.04.2018

Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
NFL draft picks are gold, I thought the Chiefs overpaid, they want to win while their young core is still intact and affordable.
- Nucker101


Well their defense was atrocious last year and they want to win while Mahomes is still on his rookie contract. I'm not against them giving up what they did, just hope it works for them.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
He turns 30 in a couple of weeks so there's your answer. I know the "playoffs asap" crowd doesn't like that answer, but Benning should be focused on acquiring players that will peak with EP/Hughes/Boeser
- Nucker101


(!!!)
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
we'd overpay, so no.
- VanHockeyGuy


lol i was joking

Trading for Subban is literally no different than the idiots in here who wanted to trade Boeser for a top 4 D.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 24 @ 3:56 PM ET
That would have been terrible. That's what re-signing the Sedins brings... not only does the owner keep pushing for the over the top player to add to them... but then re-signing them again because those over the top players were brought in.

This really does sound like a Linden/Owner thing to me.

- boonerbuck



Especially since Dubois just scored 27 goals and 61 points as a 20 year old this season. That's a trade that would get brought up repeatedly, especially once Subban begins to decline in a year or 2 while Dubois enters his prime.

Not sure we an absolve Benning of his role in this, he's the one who went on record stating that he had interest in the player.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
expediting the rebuild, and filling holes by creating others is always more fun
- Codes1087

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 24 @ 3:57 PM ET
Thx Codes! Almost forgot about bath salts for a minute. ! 🛁 🧂 🎉
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 24 @ 3:58 PM ET
He turns 30 in a couple of weeks so there's your answer. I know the "playoffs asap" crowd doesn't like that answer, but Benning should be focused on acquiring players that will peak with EP/Hughes/Boeser
- Nucker101

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
Thx Codes! Almost forgot about bath salts for a minute. ! 🛁 🧂 🎉
- CanuckDon


https://gfycat.com/forsakenmammothcanadagoose
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM ET

- Marwood

Ha! Playoffs or Benning is gone
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
https://gfycat.com/forsakenmammothcanadagoose
- Codes1087

JKuzzi’s sister is kind of cute
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