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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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Thanks Carol.
@Nucker
I thought the results were surprising until I kept watching more Euro games. I wasn't surprised at all and the more I found out about how the leagues worked it made a bit more sense.
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Thanks Carol! |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Thanks Carol.
@Nucker
I thought the results were surprising until I kept watching more Euro games. I wasn't surprised at all and the more I found out about how the leagues worked it made a bit more sense.
- manvanfan
I just wonder how much the AHL gets screwed with that methodology. The Euros who struggle in the NHL or are given 4th line roles that they dislike usually go back to Europe either through an out clause or just bolting after a season.
North American AHL players who struggle to stick in the NHL usually just stick around and get called up to play spot duty during injuries or tank seasons on crap teams.
I think that brings down the PPG for the AHL. Plus some top prospects in North America jump straight into NHL lineups after the CHL/NCAA or only spend a very short time in the AHL.
Meanwhile a lot of top Euro prospects graduate from their country’s men’s league which also skews things.
It’s an interesting article nonetheless, I haven’t read it in detail so I’m wondering if he acknowledges or addresses the things mentioned above in his research. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I just wonder how much the AHL gets screwed with that methodology. The Euros who struggle in the NHL or are given 4th line roles that they dislike usually go back to Europe either through an out clause or just bolting after a season.
North American AHL players who struggle to stick in the NHL usually just stick around and get called up to play spot duty during injuries or tank seasons on crap teams.
I think that brings down the PPG for the AHL. Plus some top prospects in North America jump straight into NHL lineups after the CHL/NCAA or only spend a very short time in the AHL.
Meanwhile a lot of top Euro prospects graduate from their country’s men’s league which also skews things.
It’s an interesting article nonetheless - Nucker101
Most of the top euro leagues are just a bit better. I think that's why JB and company seem to want to leave a lot of their prospects over for as long as needed instead of bringing them over. They are probably learning in better leagues. The players like Plasek that are sort of stuck, should come over and give the AHL a shot. Guys like Karlsson and Costmar though are going to be playing in the 2nd/3rd best league in the world which playing 4th line is probably similar to playing against bottom 6 talent in the AHL. Not a problem leaving them over there to ripen a bit.
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Fully micro-chipped. It is sure different watching TV now, I don't even need the remote control. |
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neem55
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Stutzle amd hoglander, not more midgets!
Thanks Carol
I heard ryan ellis wants out, speaking of midgets |
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NuckUp
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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Thanks Carol. Podz is growing into the tank with skill that will benefit EP long term.
If no C is acquired Podz could allow JTM to stay at C making for a 3 deep balanced top 9. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Stutzle amd hoglander, not more midgets!
Thanks Carol
I heard ryan ellis wants out, speaking of midgets - neem55
Hog might be "small in terms of height" but he's a thicc dude and is hard to knock off the puck. EP calling him a tiny powerforward was funny but true lol |
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Stutzle amd hoglander, not more midgets!
Thanks Carol
I heard ryan ellis wants out, speaking of midgets - neem55
Neems theme song
Midgets, midgets, rah, rah rah
Midgets, midgets ha ha ha
Mmm, I love midgets. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Thanks Carol. Podz is growing into the tank with skill that will benefit EP long term. If no C is acquired Podz could allow JTM to stay at C making for a 3 deep balanced top 9. - NuckUp
I would be interested to see an experiment like that for an extended period.
Pettersson
Horvat
Miller
With one of these guys on each line:
Boeser
Hoglander
Pearson/Podkolzin
And then sprinkle in a couple of other wingers on each line to complement the duos.
Roll 3 lines and play the 4th line in a limited role where they can go all out snd cause chaos with conserved energy each shift due to less ice time.
If Benning acquires another good winger, that would really make the top 9 look dangerous since Pearson and Podkolzin are both better suited as 3rd wheel types unless Podkzolin proves to be as effective Hoglander. |
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Thanks Carol. Podz is growing into the tank with skill that will benefit EP long term.
If no C is acquired Podz could allow JTM to stay at C making for a 3 deep balanced top 9. - NuckUp
What do you think his chances are of winning the Calder? |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Thanks Carol!
Hopefully Benning goes all in on Ovi to mentor the young Russian super star. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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What do you think his chances are of winning the Calder? - VanHockeyGuy
I'd put money on one of the Ducks top prospects. Zegras and Drysdale both look really promising. |
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Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Thanks Carol!
Hopefully Benning goes all in on Ovi to mentor the young Russian super star. - 1970vintage
Washington owner came out and said that they're re-signing Ovi. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Fully micro-chipped. It is sure different watching TV now, I don't even need the remote control. - Reubenkincade
4K or Virtual Reality? |
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Neems theme song
Midgets, midgets, rah, rah rah
Midgets, midgets ha ha ha
Mmm, I love midgets. - Reubenkincade
NHHL - National Halfling Hockey League.
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Washington owner came out and said that they're re-signing Ovi. - Nucker101
But JB was told he can spend/trade/sign as much as he want's? |
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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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I would be interested to see an experiment like that for an extended period.
Pettersson
Horvat
Miller
With one of these guys on each line:
Boeser
Hoglander
Pearson/Podkolzin
And then sprinkle in a couple of other wingers on each line to complement the duos.
Roll 3 lines and play the 4th line in a limited role where they can go all out snd cause chaos with conserved energy each shift due to less ice time.
If Benning acquires another good winger, that would really make the top 9 look dangerous since Pearson and Podkolzin are both better suited as 3rd wheel types unless Podkzolin proves to be as effective Hoglander. - Nucker101
Can look at analytics to find players that are effective PKer's but also have a high scoring per 60 to maximize two qualities needed for the 4th line players.
They don't have to meet any of the skills of a hockey player as long as they can be near the top of both those categories. |
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manvanfan
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Location: MB Joined: 01.21.2012
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What do you think his chances are of winning the Calder? - VanHockeyGuy
Going to have to split it with JB's pick from this season. |
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Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC Joined: 04.26.2012
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Going to have to split it with JB's pick from this season. - manvanfan
From which round?
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NuckUp
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Location: Cap Busters Joined: 07.01.2019
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What do you think his chances are of winning the Calder? - VanHockeyGuy
Slim to none. He's not a scoring machine but his game is what the Canucks need to compete. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Washington owner came out and said that they're re-signing Ovi. - Nucker101
I can hope until it’s official. Benning said he wanted to sign Toffoli and then never even made an offer, so anything can happen. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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I can hope until it’s official. Benning said he wanted to sign Toffoli and then never even made an offer, so anything can happen. - 1970vintage
He ran out of time. |
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1970vintage
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Location: BC Joined: 11.11.2010
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Just hearing that the fans at the Leafs game tonight are all going to be front line workers, so no $8000 tickets.
That’s a nice gesture by the team and Province. |
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