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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Aug 18 @ 5:13 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Seider or Nedeljkovic, who’s your rookie?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Aug 18 @ 5:51 PM ET
Its very cute you think needledyck will be as good behind detroit as was behind a top4 team in the NHL. Sieder, by a landslide.
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Aug 18 @ 6:17 PM ET
Didn't Nedeljkovic finish 3rd in Calder voting and if so how can he be able to be up for it again?


Either way i think Seider has a better chance. Long shot might be Berggren or Raymond if they can play their way onto the team to start the season.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Aug 18 @ 6:59 PM ET
Ned does not have enough NHL games to disqualify him from rookie status.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Aug 18 @ 7:01 PM ET
Hopefully they will push each other to excellence!
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Aug 18 @ 7:23 PM ET
Its very cute you think needledyck will be as good behind detroit as was behind a top4 team in the NHL. Sieder, by a landslide.
- neem55


I’m guessing you didn’t read it. That was my biggest point against the goalie. That he will face much higher danger chances against an inferior defense.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Aug 18 @ 7:23 PM ET
Didn't Nedeljkovic finish 3rd in Calder voting and if so how can he be able to be up for it again?


Either way i think Seider has a better chance. Long shot might be Berggren or Raymond if they can play their way onto the team to start the season.

- dcz28


Yeah, just one of those oddities. He qualifies as a rookie still
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Aug 18 @ 7:28 PM ET
Ned does not have enough NHL games to disqualify him from rookie status.
- HenryHockey


Seems odd that he could have potentially won the Calder and then be able to win another the next season.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Aug 18 @ 8:00 PM ET
I’m guessing you didn’t read it. That was my biggest point against the goalie. That he will face much higher danger chances against an inferior defense.
- Jeremy Laura

Imagine if people read things before they make comments.

Seider. Im big on that kid. Totally jelly of the wings with that one.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Aug 18 @ 8:55 PM ET
Seems odd that he could have potentially won the Calder and then be able to win another the next season.
- dcz28


For sure. I was surprised. The news that he would be considered a rookie again this year came out a few days ago. I think Kevin Allen did a write up on it
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Aug 18 @ 8:56 PM ET
Imagine if people read things before they make comments.

Seider. Im big on that kid. Totally jelly of the wings with that one.

- poisondhearts37


Really excited for this kid. Hoping he gets a bobblehead night!
dcz28
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 08.20.2006

Aug 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
For sure. I was surprised. The news that he would be considered a rookie again this year came out a few days ago. I think Kevin Allen did a write up on it
- Jeremy Laura


Good for him to get a 2nd chance at it. He will have to beat out Greiss for the starting job for to have a chance. Seider should be able to earn good minutes as the season goes on which should give him the edge over Ned.
Sven22
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 12.24.2007

Aug 19 @ 8:32 AM ET
Nedeljkovic was legitimately great for Carolina last year, but also: be at least a little skeptical when a 25-year-old goaltender who hadn't really been thought of as more than backup goes on an unexpected tear. See also: Jordan Binnington, Andrew Hammond.

Obviously Ned is not a .932 true talent goalie, because that would basically mean he's the next Hasek and he clearly isn't. He's going to regress. The question is how much.

Hopefully he settles into being at least a competent starter.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Aug 19 @ 8:54 AM ET
Mo Sides, by a landslide for Wing ROY. He's got a chip on his shoulder. Will take him a minute to get to full speed, I think. Then....yeah, gonna be very strong (comparatively speaking......he'll be "Wing's Strong, meaning a powerhouse for the Wings, probably not the NHL...make sense??). The Wing's D will be better this year, growing in quality each year. I think Mo's going to have a good haul of assists; 25+, maybe tickle the twine 15+. Maybe.

Ned will regress. He's not going to have the calibre of players in front of him that he had with The Canes. He's really going to have to polish his game and work on knocking down a ton of chances. Will be interesting to see the number of shots faced w/DET v shots faced w/CAR.....methinks there will be a relatively large differential. Greiss will start, Ned will struggle to adjust. Hope he does will because there's really no one in GR to bring up behind him, if he needs to get some reps in.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Aug 19 @ 8:55 AM ET
Its very cute you think needledyck will be as good behind detroit as was behind a top4 team in the NHL. Sieder, by a landslide.
- neem55


Hmmmmm..........Maybe I've lost my reading glasses, but I didn't see that implied nor written. Methinks thou doth protest to much.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 19 @ 10:06 AM ET
Seider.

He's gonna be a real good one.
angryagain
Joined: 02.23.2014

Aug 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
What's cute is how you fully put on display your incompetence and ignorance..... maybe read before replying and making a ridiculous comment....
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Aug 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
I agree that Seider is going to be the real deal. Yes, if people only read things the way they were written, haha
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Aug 19 @ 12:29 PM ET
Nedeljkovic was legitimately great for Carolina last year, but also: be at least a little skeptical when a 25-year-old goaltender who hadn't really been though of as more than backup goes on an unexpected tear. See also: Jordan Binnington, Andrew Hammond.

Obviously Ned is not a .932 true talent goalie, because that would basically mean he's the next Hasek and he clearly isn't. He's going to regress. The question is how much.

Hopefully he settles into being at least a competent starter.

- Sven22


He could also be a Martin Jones of the early years. Jones was excellent for a few years but the crappy team in front of him cost him his mojo. Jones took a lot of heat and some was on him but the team let him down as well. I think Ned will be fine, great kid and earned his dues.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Aug 19 @ 12:39 PM ET
Nedeljkovic was legitimately great for Carolina last year, but also: be at least a little skeptical when a 25-year-old goaltender who hadn't really been thought of as more than backup goes on an unexpected tear. See also: Jordan Binnington, Andrew Hammond.

Obviously Ned is not a .932 true talent goalie, because that would basically mean he's the next Hasek and he clearly isn't. He's going to regress. The question is how much.

Hopefully he settles into being at least a competent starter.

- Sven22


yep. Canes are betting that he's closer to his pretty mediocre at best AHL numbers than he is to his world-beater NHL numbers.

I like the guy and wish him luck, but Detroit was in a much better position to roll the dice with him than Carolina is.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Aug 19 @ 12:40 PM ET
Franz is being bought out!!
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Aug 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
Franz is being bought out!!
- HenryHockey



SWEET! So, here's where I am on this; when he came to us, he was grossly over-paid and continued to be so. HOWEVER, he did work well with guys like Larkin and Bert. If you watched him, he was always "teaching". A good mentor with a successful record. Wish him well and thank him for helping mold the kids.

ANOTHE slot to be won by a kid
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Aug 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
yep. Canes are betting that he's closer to his pretty mediocre at best AHL numbers than he is to his world-beater NHL numbers.

I like the guy and wish him luck, but Detroit was in a much better position to roll the dice with him than Carolina is.

- BINGO!


I watched him last year as I'm also a 'Canes fan. He was really good. But, I wonder if he's the Mark Fidrych of hockey. For those who don't recall "The Bird"; great rookie season, blew everyone away; 2.30-something ERA, 19-9, AL Rookie of the Year. Next season was a disaster for him, never lived up to his rookie campaign, never was a threat on the mound after his 1st season. Died in 2009.

Now, I PRAY Ned stays with us, and HOPE that he continues to develop and grow, that his numbers with us this season are comparable to a strong 2d year goalie. His potential is awesome, some of his saves boggled the mind. Fingers crossed.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Aug 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
I watched him last year as I'm also a 'Canes fan. He was really good. But, I wonder if he's the Mark Fidrych of hockey. For those who don't recall "The Bird"; great rookie season, blew everyone away; 2.30-something ERA, 19-9, AL Rookie of the Year. Next season was a disaster for him, never lived up to his rookie campaign, never was a threat on the mound after his 1st season. Died in 2009.

Now, I PRAY Ned stays with us, and HOPE that he continues to develop and grow, that his numbers with us this season are comparable to a strong 2d year goalie. His potential is awesome, some of his saves boggled the mind. Fingers crossed.

- mcmastermike1968
Hopefully he does not become trapped under his own vehicle!
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Aug 19 @ 1:51 PM ET
Hopefully he does not become trapped under his own vehicle!
- HenryHockey


The Bird is really a sad story. Was on the cover of SI with Big Bird, ROY, all of the entrapments of super-stardom. Lost him WAY too soon, and so very sadly. He remained a pillar in his hometown, working with kids, etc... He tried being a colour commentor on MLB with Al Michaels...just didn't pan out. Good kid, gone WAY too soon.