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Jacob Billington
Location: Westville, NS
Joined: 10.16.2021

May 2 @ 7:47 PM ET
Jacob Billington: Winnipeg Jets Season Ending News
TheUltimateJet
Joined: 07.16.2013

May 2 @ 8:16 PM ET
Well Blake Wheeler is right about starting at “square 1” again. Chevel363daysoff started at square 1 in September 2011 as well. Two consistent things from that time remain: Chevel363daysoff and Blake Wheeler.

This whole re-interviewing the coaching staff is disgusting. The only guy that I can realistically see jumping up and down for glee is Charlie Huddy. Charlie for sure knows something special about Mark Chipman; most likely Huddy is the only coach that sends Mark something nice for his birthday. As for the rest of the guys; if they have any sense of pride/character would not even apply.

Scheifele and Hellebyuck are right about one thing, this management group stinks and they have lost complete confidence in Chevy.
wmathe2011
Joined: 10.21.2021

May 2 @ 9:54 PM ET
Of course helle wants out of Winnipeg, his window of winning is closing, he is an elite caliber goalie who has had before average defense. He like most of them are thinking about leaving, but might be waiting until the new coaching staff is announced. If they don't like how it feels and no change with the staff many will be requesting trades. All they want is a chance to win the cup, and if the coaching staff and systems are the same then they will seek opportunities else where.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

May 3 @ 10:11 AM ET
Using rough figures, 20 players win the cup each year. 620 do not.
Yeah, it's nice to win the cup, but what is so bad about being paid millions of dollars to play hockey ?
Pretty sure there are thousands of young men who would trade places with #55.
Kunit
Joined: 05.29.2014

May 3 @ 10:34 AM ET
I’m perfectly ok with Chevys extension as most people would agree this team was great on paper. It was eluded to in the media sessions many times that this teams result was much less than the sum of its parts. Having said that, I agree that it’s the right call to replace all the coaches.

With regards to Scheifele, at the end of the day, players will always come and go. It’s the nature of the business. Yes, Scheifele is on a great contract. But in two years time, he’ll be 31 signing a lucrative 7-8 year extension. May not be a bad idea at all to maximize his return now rather than lose him for less or nothing if he walks away as a UFA in two years… If Scheifele is traded, he certainly will not be traded for nothing.

Chevy and the next coaching regime also need to evaluate all their young dmen and determine which ones they wanna keep and which ones they’d be willing to part with. There is a bit of a log jam at the blue line. With the progress of some of the D prospects on the Moose, they may be able to dump Dillon and Schmidt for draft picks.
wmathe2011
Joined: 10.21.2021

May 3 @ 12:21 PM ET
It all depends who they get to coach the team, if the get the right coach this could be a finals team, if that is the case you keep 55 and go for the cup. Chances are they won't be that good and if you trade 55 there will be a little rebuild and that might be too much time to do. Wheeler will be gone (not the biggest loss) helle should be traded then or else we end up with price situation, declining goalie getting paid too much.

As far as the defense, Schmitt was alright, I think he had 1 year left? If that is the case keep him and if they fail to make playoffs again he is traded at the deadline. Dillon and Stanley both play as an enforce style, keep one and trade the other, preferably trade Dillon, I think he has 2 years left. If there is a good offer for Schmitt take it.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 3 @ 12:30 PM ET
I’m perfectly ok with Chevys extension as most people would agree this team was great on paper. It was eluded to in the media sessions many times that this teams result was much less than the sum of its parts. Having said that, I agree that it’s the right call to replace all the coaches.

With regards to Scheifele, at the end of the day, players will always come and go. It’s the nature of the business. Yes, Scheifele is on a great contract. But in two years time, he’ll be 31 signing a lucrative 7-8 year extension. May not be a bad idea at all to maximize his return now rather than lose him for less or nothing if he walks away as a UFA in two years… If Scheifele is traded, he certainly will not be traded for nothing.

Chevy and the next coaching regime also need to evaluate all their young dmen and determine which ones they wanna keep and which ones they’d be willing to part with. There is a bit of a log jam at the blue line. With the progress of some of the D prospects on the Moose, they may be able to dump Dillon and Schmidt for draft picks.

- Kunit


I basically agree with all your points. I don't think (hope anyways) that there is a chance in hell that any more of the present coaching staff returns.

The way I see the 22/23 Jets at present:
Connor-PLD-Perfetti
Ehlers-X-Wheeler
Y - Lowry-Svechnikov
Barron-Gustafsson-Appleton
Reichel

Morrissey-XX
Samberg-Pionk
Heinola-(one of Dillon, Demelo, Schmidt)
(and 7th - Stanley, Gawanke, Kovacevics, Chisholm)

Hellebuyck
Comrie

Ex-Jets:
Scheifele
Stastny (unless he resigns for one year while Perfetti gets ready
Sanford
Vesalainen
Toninato
Harkins
- two of the three-D named above (Dillon, Schmidt, DeMelo)
Seuss
Brooks
Poganski

Hopefully "X", "XX" and "Y" can be filled via Scheifele ++ trade. If not might have to hopefully add a UFA winger which is tough in small markets not located in sunny south.

Whatever - we CAN'T start next season with basically same line-up as now, regardless if we change coaches or not. Just the way I see it!
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
There is a lot of talk about the culture in the room and of course the comments about some players not buying into the system and being more concerned about the name on the back of their jersey than the crest on the front. Here are the guys I think need to go because of all of the above. The * represents my conviction on them buying into the system and amount of heart. Three *** is really bad....these guys gotta go !

Dillon ***
Schmidt *
Vesalainen ***
Brooks ***
Scheifele ( but more for the trade value and timing, lack of defence) *
Svechnikov ***
Toninato **

Bring in the right guys to replace these guys and I think the Jets will be a MUCH better team....

....and BTW...I wonder if Heinola is doing to much of his own thing vs buying into the system . Talent is there so him not playing vs other call-ups might tell a tale here.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

May 3 @ 1:15 PM ET
I’m perfectly ok with Chevys extension as most people would agree this team was great on paper. It was eluded to in the media sessions many times that this teams result was much less than the sum of its parts. Having said that, I agree that it’s the right call to replace all the coaches.

With regards to Scheifele, at the end of the day, players will always come and go. It’s the nature of the business. Yes, Scheifele is on a great contract. But in two years time, he’ll be 31 signing a lucrative 7-8 year extension. May not be a bad idea at all to maximize his return now rather than lose him for less or nothing if he walks away as a UFA in two years… If Scheifele is traded, he certainly will not be traded for nothing.

Chevy and the next coaching regime also need to evaluate all their young dmen and determine which ones they wanna keep and which ones they’d be willing to part with. There is a bit of a log jam at the blue line. With the progress of some of the D prospects on the Moose, they may be able to dump Dillon and Schmidt for draft picks.

- Kunit


That's the delusion that people have. Reality was in a normal 2021 season they were at best a wild card team that would have lost to Vegas or Colorado. Then all Chevy did in the offseason was obtain two 30 year old salary cup dumps in Schmidt and Dillon to fix their defense.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 3 @ 1:48 PM ET
Wheeler is the number one person to blame for locker room. Include anyone else you desire, but it starts with Wheeler and how treats players and how he demands a certain level of Playing time, respect and say in everything and so on and so on.

If a new coach doesn’t change Wheeler, the team doesn’t change.

I’ll also add, if Shiefele is traded, he will command more than Eichel based on his contract. Every single team can fit that contract in and that alone will up the price more than Eichel

Speaking of Shief. He is 29, he is exiting prime years. His next contract will not be good for whoever team signs it. But!! He will be great for whatever team acquires him for the next two years.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

May 3 @ 4:30 PM ET
That's the delusion that people have. Reality was in a normal 2021 season they were at best a wild card team that would have lost to Vegas or Colorado. Then all Chevy did in the offseason was obtain two 30 year old salary cup dumps in Schmidt and Dillon to fix their defense.
- BWJumper


A lot of people will probably disagree with this, but we could have gone a lot further last season if not for the Scheifele hit on Evans.
I maintain that it was a stupid, selfish, hit at the time. It was not going to prevent the goal (in hindsight) and the end result was that it fired Montreal up, and deflated our team.


JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

May 3 @ 6:58 PM ET
There is a lot of talk about the culture in the room and of course the comments about some players not buying into the system and being more concerned about the name on the back of their jersey than the crest on the front. Here are the guys I think need to go because of all of the above. The * represents my conviction on them buying into the system and amount of heart. Three *** is really bad....these guys gotta go !

Dillon ***
Schmidt *
Vesalainen ***
Brooks ***
Scheifele ( but more for the trade value and timing, lack of defence) *
Svechnikov ***
Toninato **

Bring in the right guys to replace these guys and I think the Jets will be a MUCH better team....

....and BTW...I wonder if Heinola is doing to much of his own thing vs buying into the system . Talent is there so him not playing vs other call-ups might tell a tale here.

- jetsnation


So Dillon wasn't playing with enough heart all season when he blocked the most shots on the team??.. lol

Get real, the only guys that looked like they didn't play with heart this season were Scheifele and Hellebuyck, no one else on this team looked like they were disinterested or not trying as hard as they could.

As for buying into the systems well why would any guy on this or any team buy into systems that do NOT work.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

May 3 @ 7:07 PM ET
I’m perfectly ok with Chevys extension as most people would agree this team was great on paper. It was eluded to in the media sessions many times that this teams result was much less than the sum of its parts. Having said that, I agree that it’s the right call to replace all the coaches.

With regards to Scheifele, at the end of the day, players will always come and go. It’s the nature of the business. Yes, Scheifele is on a great contract. But in two years time, he’ll be 31 signing a lucrative 7-8 year extension. May not be a bad idea at all to maximize his return now rather than lose him for less or nothing if he walks away as a UFA in two years… If Scheifele is traded, he certainly will not be traded for nothing.

Chevy and the next coaching regime also need to evaluate all their young dmen and determine which ones they wanna keep and which ones they’d be willing to part with. There is a bit of a log jam at the blue line. With the progress of some of the D prospects on the Moose, they may be able to dump Dillon and Schmidt for draft picks.

- Kunit


"most people would agree this team was great on paper"

Man did this Jets team get overhyped, take a look at other teams and really the Jets are pretty far behind, the Jets top D pair might be one of the worst in the league, its bottom two lines are trash compared to legit good teams and have only four legit top six forwards, lots of work to do before this team can be called great.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 3 @ 7:09 PM ET
So Dillon wasn't playing with enough heart all season when he blocked the most shots on the team??.. lol

Get real, the only guys that looked like they didn't play with heart this season were Scheifele and Hellebuyck, no one else on this team looked like they were disinterested or not trying as hard as they could.

As for buying into the systems well why would any guy on this or any team buy into systems that do NOT work.

- JetFuel


I stand by my list, although maybe I should have give Scheif more ***'s . I should also given the two head coaches this year ***. Stats is correct when he said players need to be called out, even just once. As I said in earlier blogs, Sutter was a big reason for the sudden turn of events in Calgary, a team who was basically going through last season , what the Jets are going thru now. Boudreau also had the Canucks outperforming this year with a cast that had way less talent than the Jets. The right coach will make a big difference.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

May 3 @ 8:55 PM ET
I stand by my list, although maybe I should have give Scheif more ***'s . I should also given the two head coaches this year ***. Stats is correct when he said players need to be called out, even just once. As I said in earlier blogs, Sutter was a big reason for the sudden turn of events in Calgary, a team who was basically going through last season , what the Jets are going thru now. Boudreau also had the Canucks outperforming this year with a cast that had way less talent than the Jets. The right coach will make a big difference.
- jetsnation


Yeah I just disagree about Dillon and basically any of those guys other than Scheifele, if you want to nitpick 4th liners like Brooks and Vesalainen sorry but you're really reaching to lay blame where it isn't deserved, agree about the coaches though, they've deserved F's for years.

No doubt better coaching will help but it'll only go so far, this isn't a cup contender lineup, it wasn't from the start even if the hockey pundits and talking heads thought it was.

Calgary made big lineup additions at forward though while the Jets didn't and Calgary added two bruisers to their blueline, said it here before but if the Jets added Zadorov and Gudbranson in the offseason the vast majority here would've lost their minds.

Seriously how do the Canucks have way less talent than the Jets?? They're very similar teams on paper and their final records indicate that.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

May 4 @ 12:36 PM ET
Chevy & scouts need to do better at the draft table.
After the 1st round, between 2011 - 2017, these are the proven NHL caliber picks:
2011 - Lowry
2012 - Hellebuyck
2013 - Copp, Poolman, Petan (?), Comrie (?)
2014 - nobody
2015 - Harkins, Appleton
2016 - nobody
2017 - Samberg (?)

One high-end player, Two solid 3rd liners, and a few journeymen.
(?) indicates that the jury is still out on these picks.










jjonah
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.25.2013

May 4 @ 5:51 PM ET
If the Jets hire Arneil or Carlyle for Head Coach I’m done.
My 4 seats will be for sale.

Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 4 @ 6:24 PM ET
If the Jets hire Arneil or Carlyle for Head Coach I’m done.
My 4 seats will be for sale.

- jjonah

Email Chipman, more people need to email those exact two sentences
Jetlag
Joined: 01.18.2021

May 4 @ 9:10 PM ET
If the Jets hire Arneil or Carlyle for Head Coach I’m done.
My 4 seats will be for sale.

- jjonah

They 100% need to go away from this path, there is a reason neither are current head coaches in the league. Hopefully they do a thoughtful search and put lots of stock in a no nonsense coach that’s progressive and brings legit structure.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

May 5 @ 7:07 AM ET
They 100% need to go away from this path, there is a reason neither are current head coaches in the league. Hopefully they do a thoughtful search and put lots of stock in a no nonsense coach that’s progressive and brings legit structure.
- Jetlag


https://thehockeynews.com...-candidates-for-nhl-teams

Here is a good list of up and coming coaches who have had a lot of success. With three to five teams looking for new coaches it seems there is actually more candidates out there than teams looking for a new coach. Add in the recycle list and there might be as many as two dozen candidates.

I didn't even see Trotz listed there, who being from Dauphin might consider moving back if his contract with the NYI is indeed done. I suppose the lack of sellout crowds at the games might slightly hurt Chevy's chances of paying up for Trotz when he can get some of the guys on the Hockey News list at a fraction of the cost.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 6 @ 10:44 AM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...-candidates-for-nhl-teams

Here is a good list of up and coming coaches who have had a lot of success. With three to five teams looking for new coaches it seems there is actually more candidates out there than teams looking for a new coach. Add in the recycle list and there might be as many as two dozen candidates.

I didn't even see Trotz listed there, who being from Dauphin might consider moving back if his contract with the NYI is indeed done. I suppose the lack of sellout crowds at the games might slightly hurt Chevy's chances of paying up for Trotz when he can get some of the guys on the Hockey News list at a fraction of the cost.

- jetsnation


I think my wish list is down to three;

Gronborg
Lambert
Montgomery
Pastor_Matt
Joined: 03.05.2018

May 6 @ 11:36 AM ET
I think my wish list is down to three;

Gronborg
Lambert
Montgomery

- Ross77


I bet they hire Arniel or Carlyle...
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

May 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
I bet they hire Arniel or Carlyle...
- Pastor_Matt



that would be a huge mistake!!

I should aslo add, im interested in Mike Vellucci as a coach. there are too many solid options ahead of Carlyle or arniel
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

May 6 @ 12:33 PM ET
I bet they hire Arniel or Carlyle...
- Pastor_Matt



Perhaps I could handle Arniel - Carlyle is definitely a "no go" in my books.
Jetlag
Joined: 01.18.2021

May 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
https://thehockeynews.com...-candidates-for-nhl-teams

Here is a good list of up and coming coaches who have had a lot of success. With three to five teams looking for new coaches it seems there is actually more candidates out there than teams looking for a new coach. Add in the recycle list and there might be as many as two dozen candidates.

I didn't even see Trotz listed there, who being from Dauphin might consider moving back if his contract with the NYI is indeed done. I suppose the lack of sellout crowds at the games might slightly hurt Chevy's chances of paying up for Trotz when he can get some of the guys on the Hockey News list at a fraction of the cost.

- jetsnation


I liked what I read of all of the first half dozen mentioned in the article. All of these probably wouldn't require a premium, as it would be their 1st shot an NHL head coaching gig. Guys winning coach of the year at every level they've been at seems easy enough to welcome.
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