Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Gauthier, Atkinson, TIFH

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Gauthier, Atkinson, TIFH
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill

just wish Roenick was here earlier in his career. always loved kapanen as well.

I remember watching kap take that hit and then struggle to get back up.
I won't ever forget that hit, either

Torts was lucky that 2004 Flyers team was missing Desjardins and had a bunch of other injured dmen once he faced them.

Torts was lucky that 2004 Flyers team was missing Desjardins and had a bunch of other injured dmen once he faced them.
- Feanor

Yeah the injuries to the Flyers dmen in 2004 coupled with the unbelievable youth and skill of VL wasted a legitimate shot at the cup that year. The more devastating Flyers loss has to be the 1997 Cup loss via a sweep to the Redwings, completely unprepared for how Detroit would play them speaks volumes to the lack of scouting report and coaching prowess from the Flyers.

I remember watching kap take that hit and then struggle to get back up.
I won't ever forget that hit, either
- Bob Habib

it is definitely one for the flyers history books. would be even greater had we won that year.

just wish Roenick was here earlier in his career. always loved kapanen as well.
- Peter Richards

flyers a lot of times got guys on the way down instead on the way up.

Still the most exciting 2 minutes in my sports watching life. Jim Jackson's commentary adds so much. Go back and listen to it with the CBC announcers, it just doesn't have the same feel.

I still get chills.

Still the most exciting 2 minutes in my sports watching life. Jim Jackson's commentary adds so much. Go back and listen to it with the CBC announcers, it just doesn't have the same feel.

I still get chills.
- MBFlyerfan

don't know about that. do you remember all the mike tyson fights

don't know about that. do you remember all the mike tyson fights
- Peter Richards

I do. And not even close. And you are telling ME you don't know whether or not it is the most exciting 2 minutes in MY sporting life? That is rather presumptuous don't you think?

I do. And not even close. And you are telling ME you don't know whether or not it is the most exciting 2 minutes in MY sporting life? That is rather presumptuous don't you think?
- MBFlyerfan

the don't know about that was referring to me, not you. was just providing an example you may not have considered. but if it's yours have at it.

Yeah the injuries to the Flyers dmen in 2004 coupled with the unbelievable youth and skill of VL wasted a legitimate shot at the cup that year. The more devastating Flyers loss has to be the 1997 Cup loss via a sweep to the Redwings, completely unprepared for how Detroit would play them speaks volumes to the lack of scouting report and coaching prowess from the Flyers.
- Pixote Andolini

Scouting in 97? They lost to a far better team. That was not a scouting issue. Flyers were good, Detroit was a dynasty.

The 04 is a much bigger loss as we were probably the best team if healthy. Hitch has said that was the best team he ever coached. They could have won that year.

the don't know about that was referring to me, not you. was just providing an example you may not have considered. but if it's yours have at it.
- Peter Richards

I actually watched a video that had all Tyson's knockouts a few weeks ago. Definitely exciting. But it didn't have my hyperventilating and on my knees like I was watching that overtime.

I just don't have the personal rooting connection for Tyson that I have for the Flyers.

Go back and listen to it with the CBC announcers, it just doesn't have the same feel.
- MBFlyerfan

They were sure animated about the Kapanen hit tho

Scouting in 97? They lost to a far better team. That was not a scouting issue. Flyers were good, Detroit was a dynasty.

The 04 is a much bigger loss as we were probably the best team if healthy. Hitch has said that was the best team he ever coached. They could have won that year.
- Joe Nardone

They just couldn't overcome all the devastating injuries. You know it was bad when they had Kapanen playing defense.

I actually watched a video that had all Tyson's knockouts a few weeks ago. Definitely exciting. But it didn't have my hyperventilating and on my knees like I was watching that overtime.

I just don't have the personal rooting connection for Tyson that I have for the Flyers.
- MBFlyerfan

interesting. not sure i ever had that response to anything.

They just couldn't overcome all the devastating injuries. You know it was bad when they had Kapanen playing defense.
- MBFlyerfan

i would take him on defense over some of the current defenders.

They were sure animated about the Kapanen hit tho
- Tomahawk

That wasnt the only run Tucker took during that shift. He also (I think its him) takes a run at LeClair on the side wall at around 1:01.

I hated that f#cker with a passion.

interesting. not sure i ever had that response to anything.
- Peter Richards

lol some of us care more than others.

Scouting in 97? They lost to a far better team. That was not a scouting issue. Flyers were good, Detroit was a dynasty.
- Joe Nardone

In hindsight the Wings were the way better team.

At the time tho... it was considered a competitive matchup but the Flyers just looked like beasts heading into that series. The way the team and the fanbase were immediately humbled... wow.

In hindsight the Wings were the way better team.

At the time tho... it was considered a competitive matchup but the Flyers just looked like beasts heading into that series. The way the team and the fanbase were immediately humbled... wow.
- Tomahawk

Their strategy was simple. Negate the Flyers physical forecheck by not being there to be hit.

One question that I wished Jason would ave asked Cam is why Cam decided for the older form of the neck surgery where they fuse the bones, versus the new surgery Eichel and more recently Rafabee had.

One question that I wished Jason would ave asked Cam is why Cam decided for the older form of the neck surgery where they fuse the bones, versus the new surgery Eichel and more recently Rafabee had.
- jd250

I would have asked that too. Disc fusion restricts range of motion. Not hockey, but Don Mattingly had the fusion surgery lower down his back and it basically wrecked his career. He could not generate the torque anymore. Not that the replacement was available then.

I would at least be curious. Especially since as far as I know it is a surgery that needs to be revisited over a period of time. From what I read that was part of the reason why Eichel didnt want the fusion surgery and fought so hard against it.

I actually watched a video that had all Tyson's knockouts a few weeks ago. Definitely exciting. But it didn't have my hyperventilating and on my knees like I was watching that overtime.

I just don't have the personal rooting connection for Tyson that I have for the Flyers.
- MBFlyerfan

That personal connection and some skin in the game is what makes it. For example, watching an OT game 7 with teams that you have no connection to. Versus watching an OT game 7 with the team you root for playing. Big difference emotionally.