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Ben Shelley
Anaheim Ducks
Location: ON
Joined: 04.09.2020

Jun 5 @ 8:12 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Ducks name Greg Cronin as head coach, John Gibson requests trade
HonkyTonkMan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Home to ruined prospects and overpaid slugs', AB
Joined: 06.10.2015

Jun 5 @ 8:35 PM ET
We’ll give the Ducks Jack Campbell and a 2nd for Gibson
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 5 @ 8:53 PM ET
Love the hire- the more I look into it, they brought a guy who develops and has an idea of what structure is and means-

Interested to see if he keeps the Asst. Coaches or brings in new.

As far as Gibby goes - plenty of options for us to garner some assets back -
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 5 @ 9:28 PM ET
Nice hire for the Ducks, congrats.
LFS
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.08.2021

Jun 6 @ 7:25 AM ET
At that salary, good luck
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:46 AM ET
At that salary, good luck
- LFS

Pittsburgh might do something. They're stupidly in win-now mode and have so many bad contracts as it is, why not add another one to the pile? I just wonder what would come back. Getting Marcus Pettersson back would be nice.
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jun 6 @ 11:32 AM ET
At that salary, good luck
- LFS


They'll probably have to retain some serious salary for whomever decides to give him a shot.
Roadrunner75
Seattle Kraken
Location: ON
Joined: 03.01.2013

Jun 6 @ 11:42 AM ET
It's an interesting hire, not sure on him and if good or bad but anyone is going to be so much better than Eakins so...

Gibson wanting out isn't that big a shocker. I think Ducks can and will move him. Plenty of movement with goalies coming and while numbers aren't good he hasn't had a great team in front of him either. Be very interesting to see how they handle the request and what they can get for him.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 6 @ 6:39 PM ET
Pittsburgh might do something. They're stupidly in win-now mode and have so many bad contracts as it is, why not add another one to the pile? I just wonder what would come back. Getting Marcus Pettersson back would be nice.
- duxcup07


Marcus would be ok.. but we need more offensive firepower at this point.

I'd like to see the Kings for player and pick or picks or to the East. Jersey would be a nice trade partner here... They desperately need a good goalie.. TO also a possibility - Ottawa also.
hardenx
Season Ticket Holder
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Garden Grove, CA
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jun 6 @ 7:25 PM ET
Looking at the photo of Cronin in the Ducks press release, my first thought was that Dallas Eakins couldn't look that intense if he tried. From everything that has been written and said the last 3-4 days, he sounds like the anti-Eakins. If he can install a team defensive system that the young players can adapt to and execute, it will be a big win.

If they can find a place for Gibson to land, that would be another win. Looking at the goaltending in Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Buffalo, and a half dozen other places that want to be contenders, PV should be able to make something work.
rubberduckies
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Huntington beach, CA
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 6 @ 7:33 PM ET
We’ll give the Ducks Jack Campbell and a 2nd for Gibson
- HonkyTonkMan
Nurse and a second

dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 6 @ 8:37 PM ET
Nurse and a second
- rubberduckies


I don’t want that knucklehead or that contract…

The oil got nothing for us - short of RNH -
greenyone
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jun 6 @ 9:44 PM ET
Looking at the photo of Cronin in the Ducks press release, my first thought was that Dallas Eakins couldn't look that intense if he tried. From everything that has been written and said the last 3-4 days, he sounds like the anti-Eakins. If he can install a team defensive system that the young players can adapt to and execute, it will be a big win.

If they can find a place for Gibson to land, that would be another win. Looking at the goaltending in Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Buffalo, and a half dozen other places that want to be contenders, PV should be able to make something work.

- hardenx


I'm curious to see where and for how much goalies are going to bring this year. I keep reading that the modern analytical trend with GM's is to NOT invest big money to goalies anymore. If that holds true, moving Gibson without having to retain salary may prove to be extremely difficult.
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:02 PM ET
Marcus would be ok.. but we need more offensive firepower at this point.

I'd like to see the Kings for player and pick or picks or to the East. Jersey would be a nice trade partner here... They desperately need a good goalie.. TO also a possibility - Ottawa also.

- dozerD10

C'mon dude! Zelleweger and Mintykov are coming, along with Fantilli! The Ducks need to keep the puck out of the net. Don't forget, Gibby's got a modified NTC. He MIGHT waive it but definitely not for Toronto or Edmonton.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 6 @ 10:07 PM ET
C'mon dude! Zelleweger and Mintykov are coming, along with Fantilli! The Ducks need to keep the puck out of the net. Don't forget, Gibby's got a modified NTC. He MIGHT waive it but definitely not for Toronto or Edmonton.
- duxcup07



A simple D system implementation by Cronin will make us substantially better right off the bat-

We need to score - we have 1 legit RW -

Jones and Comtois are bottom 6 guys at best - Rico is suited for the 3rd line - Silf is trash - Vatrano is ok - Strome maybe 2nd liner -

Our D will be much better -
13of39
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jun 6 @ 11:35 PM ET
Pittsburgh should jump on Gibson.

To PIT: G J. Gibson (6.4aav x 4 yrs)
LW Max Jones (1.295aav x 1yr [RFA])
LW Brayden Tracey (ELC) (29th Overall Pick)
2024 3rd Round Pick (From Pittsburgh)

To ANA: C M. Granlund (5.0aav x 2yrs)
D J. Ruutta (2.75aav x 2yrs)
D Pierre-Olivier Joseph (ELC) (23rd Overall Pick)
D Owen Pickering (ELC) (21st Overall Pick)
C Samuel Poulin (ELC) (21st Overall Pick)
G Taylor Gauthier (ELC) (Undrafted FA)
2024 1st Round Pick
2023 7th Round Pick (from Florida)
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 6 @ 11:55 PM ET
Pittsburgh should jump on Gibson.

To PIT: G J. Gibson (6.4aav x 4 yrs)
LW Max Jones (1.295aav x 1yr

- 13of39[RFA])
LW Brayden Tracey (ELC) (29th Overall Pick)
2024 3rd Round Pick (From Pittsburgh)

To ANA: C M. Granlund (5.0aav x 2yrs)
D J. Ruutta (2.75aav x 2yrs)
D Pierre-Olivier Joseph (ELC) (23rd Overall Pick)
D Owen Pickering (ELC) (21st Overall Pick)
C Samuel Poulin (ELC) (21st Overall Pick)
G Taylor Gauthier (ELC) (Undrafted FA)
2024 1st Round Pick
2023 7th Round Pick (from Florida)


Can’t see the Pens going for that …
13of39
Colorado Avalanche
Joined: 08.26.2018

Jun 7 @ 2:17 AM ET
Can’t see the Pens going for that …
- dozerD10



Shedding Granlund is gonna cost something.
Ruutta helps fill the right side of an Anaheim blue line devoid of any RHD beyond a bounce back would be Sophomore in Drysdale and zero veteran presence.
Poulin’s perceived value is higher than his on ice value due to a lack of foot speed.
My thinking is that Pickering buys you out of Hextall’s mistakes.
The 1st nets you Gibson.
If Joseph was gonna happen for Pittsburgh, at this point, he would’ve happened. So he’s basically a swap of projects there with Max Jones being a project himself.
Brayden Tracey is in there to help balance things out on the perceived value front as he too is a total reclamation project that is more than likely to never make the show.

I looked for a way to fit Comtois into the deal knowing Sid’s love of big body cycling wingers, but I don’t see Anaheim giving up on him just yet with no real replacement coming up yet whose capable of playing the McSorley role on Zegras’ wing.

While Pitt is still in win now mode, this manages to keep a kid like Belliveau in the fold while sending the message to the group that the Cup is what next year is all about.
Hopefully Dubas learned from his mistakes in Toronto. Putting also-rans in at the most important position on the ice will carry you about as far as a paper plane built from the papyrus of a handshake agreement.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 7 @ 7:24 AM ET
Shedding Granlund is gonna cost something.
Ruutta helps fill the right side of an Anaheim blue line devoid of any RHD beyond a bounce back would be Sophomore in Drysdale and zero veteran presence.
Poulin’s perceived value is higher than his on ice value due to a lack of foot speed.
My thinking is that Pickering buys you out of Hextall’s mistakes.
The 1st nets you Gibson.
If Joseph was gonna happen for Pittsburgh, at this point, he would’ve happened. So he’s basically a swap of projects there with Max Jones being a project himself.
Brayden Tracey is in there to help balance things out on the perceived value front as he too is a total reclamation project that is more than likely to never make the show.

I looked for a way to fit Comtois into the deal knowing Sid’s love of big body cycling wingers, but I don’t see Anaheim giving up on him just yet with no real replacement coming up yet whose capable of playing the McSorley role on Zegras’ wing.

While Pitt is still in win now mode, this manages to keep a kid like Belliveau in the fold while sending the message to the group that the Cup is what next year is all about.
Hopefully Dubas learned from his mistakes in Toronto. Putting also-rans in at the most important position on the ice will carry you about as far as a paper plane built from the papyrus of a handshake agreement.

- 13of39


I would do it - Dubie in Toronto though kinda turned the page on dealing 1sts -
hardenx
Season Ticket Holder
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Garden Grove, CA
Joined: 06.15.2011

Jun 7 @ 11:10 AM ET
Only thing in the Pittsburgh proposal above that makes sense is Jan Rutta, who is the kind of player I expect PV to target in free agency. The Ducks have at least seven high end defense prospects in their system (LaCombe, Helleson, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Luneau, Hinds, Warren). Three of those guys were voted the top defensemen in the three Canadian junior leagues, and a fourth was voted the top defensive defenseman in his league. The Ducks are stacked on D prospects and Pittsburgh is thin. A trade where the centerpiece is D prospects doesn’t make sense for either team. We’d likely be trading those guys again a year or two down the line, and a couple years after that we’d all be whining when three of our D ‘castoffs’ are playing in the Stanley Cup Finals again. No thanks.

I think Buffalo makes more sense as a trading partner if Gibson is willing to go there. Sabres are a goalie away from being a playoff contender and have the talent to be a full-on cup contender over the life of Gibson’s contract. It’s hard to believe they are willing to bet that future on a guy (Devon Levi) who has 7 games of NHL experience. Buffalo has a logjam of young wingers that would help fill a need in Anaheim.

Same thing for Ottawa, who don’t currently have an NHL-level goalie under contract, although they don’t quite have the same level of wing prospects available.
dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks
Location: long beach, CA
Joined: 01.29.2014

Jun 7 @ 11:15 AM ET
Only thing in the Pittsburgh proposal above that makes sense is Jan Rutta, who is the kind of player I expect PV to target in free agency. The Ducks have at least seven high end defense prospects in their system (LaCombe, Helleson, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Luneau, Hinds, Warren). Three of those guys were voted the top defensemen in the three Canadian junior leagues, and a fourth was voted the top defensive defenseman in his league. The Ducks are stacked on D prospects and Pittsburgh is thin. A trade where the centerpiece is D prospects doesn’t make sense for either team. We’d likely be trading those guys again a year or two down the line, and a couple years after that we’d all be whining when three of our D ‘castoffs’ are playing in the Stanley Cup Finals again. No thanks.

I think Buffalo makes more sense as a trading partner if Gibson is willing to go there. Sabres are a goalie away from being a playoff contender and have the talent to be a full-on cup contender over the life of Gibson’s contract. It’s hard to believe they are willing to bet that future on a guy (Devon Levi) who has 7 games of NHL experience. Buffalo has a logjam of young wingers that would help fill a need in Anaheim.

Same thing for Ottawa, who don’t currently have an NHL-level goalie under contract, although they don’t quite have the same level of wing prospects available.

- hardenx


Totally agree we need snipers - after Terry on the RS we got nothing -