Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Defeat Hurricanes in Raleigh

Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Defeat Hurricanes in Raleigh
- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill

Frost with only 11:45 of TOI. What did he do wrong this game, except get them off and running...?

Interesting game in the sense that I thought Carolina dominated possession and scoring chances and lost, while the Flyers dominated the previous game they played against Carolina and lost. I thought Carolina really exposed some players last night, specifically Zamula who I thought was a disaster in this game. I know we want to develop our young players but honestly I think I have seen enough of big Z. I loved his game in the pre-season but the way he is playing now makes me cringe every time he is on the ice.When Risto and or Staal come back, I think Z will need to sit for a while. I also thought Couturier did not look right to me. I am afraid there is something wrong with him, and I sincerely hope it's not his back again. These are not the only two players, in fact I thought the entire team was out of sync last night, and a little slow, but maybe that's because of Carolina.

Interesting game in the sense that I thought Carolina dominated possession and scoring chances and lost, while the Flyers dominated the previous game they played against Carolina and lost. I thought Carolina really exposed some players last night, specifically Zamula who I thought was a disaster in this game. I know we want to develop our young players but honestly I think I have seen enough of big Z. I loved his game in the pre-season but the way he is playing now makes me cringe every time he is on the ice.When Risto and or Staal come back, I think Z will need to sit for a while. I also thought Couturier did not look right to me. I am afraid there is something wrong with him, and I sincerely hope it's not his back again. These are not the only two players, in fact I thought the entire team was out of sync last night, and a little slow, but maybe that's because of Carolina.
- jd250

Atkinson and Laughton were somewhat invisible to me last night - can only recall hearing their names a few times

Interesting game in the sense that I thought Carolina dominated possession and scoring chances and lost, while the Flyers dominated the previous game they played against Carolina and lost. I thought Carolina really exposed some players last night, specifically Zamula who I thought was a disaster in this game. I know we want to develop our young players but honestly I think I have seen enough of big Z. I loved his game in the pre-season but the way he is playing now makes me cringe every time he is on the ice.When Risto and or Staal come back, I think Z will need to sit for a while. I also thought Couturier did not look right to me. I am afraid there is something wrong with him, and I sincerely hope it's not his back again. These are not the only two players, in fact I thought the entire team was out of sync last night, and a little slow, but maybe that's because of Carolina.
- jd250

Zamula doesn't need to sit. He needs to keep playing. When Ristolainen is ready to play. Belpedio either sits as the 7th or sent back to the AHL.

Seeler brings it every night. A solid 3rd pair Dman making 775K , plays physical , blocks shots and not too mention a + 10. Made a great play on TK goal

Interesting game in the sense that I thought Carolina dominated possession and scoring chances and lost, while the Flyers dominated the previous game they played against Carolina and lost. I thought Carolina really exposed some players last night, specifically Zamula who I thought was a disaster in this game. I know we want to develop our young players but honestly I think I have seen enough of big Z. I loved his game in the pre-season but the way he is playing now makes me cringe every time he is on the ice.When Risto and or Staal come back, I think Z will need to sit for a while. I also thought Couturier did not look right to me. I am afraid there is something wrong with him, and I sincerely hope it's not his back again. These are not the only two players, in fact I thought the entire team was out of sync last night, and a little slow, but maybe that's because of Carolina.
- jd250

what benefit does a rebuilding team gain by playing Staal?

Seeler brings it every night. A solid 3rd pair Dman making 775K , plays physical , blocks shots and not too mention a + 10. Made a great play on TK goal
- 3flyerkids

Didn’t realize he’s a + 10. Wow. Well done. Still kind of shocked that they have a decent record without any semblance of a pp. this is starting to get embarrassing. What are the coaches doing to fix this other than scratching frost?

A cautionary tale against Tanking! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFADcfQHVpI

Didn’t realize he’s a + 10. Wow. Well done. Still kind of shocked that they have a decent record without any semblance of a pp. this is starting to get embarrassing. What are the coaches doing to fix this other than scratching frost?
- Hextall271

PP is a disgrace, I can't recall a Flyers PP looking so bad and simply unorganized. I think Toronto holds the record for 51 straight PP's without a goal.

Frost with only 11:45 of TOI. What did he do wrong this game, except get them off and running...?
- mr4tno

Flyers had 3 penalties to kill, and only one power play. Tortorella used the Couturier and Poehling lines a lot in playing with a 3rd period lead. A couple lines got caught on long shifts. It adds up. Tippett played about the same as they kept those two together.

PP is a disgrace, I can't recall a Flyers PP looking so bad and simply unorganized. I think Toronto holds the record for 51 straight PP's without a goal.
- 3flyerkids

Agree, that PP in the 3rd was one of the worst I have ever seen, and I watch a lot of high school hockey also. I really think the Flyers need to bring in another voice to work with the PP units, they are completely lost out there, no chemistry, no plan, no results.

Frost with only 11:45 of TOI. What did he do wrong this game, except get them off and running...?
- mr4tno

Owen Tippett only 12:19
Cates only 9:31

Foerster got 20 minutes of ice time and looked about as likely to score an NHL goal as that lady in the red shirt sitting behind Brindy.

That was a good win on the road, but it's bizarre to have Bobby Brink sitting in the stands while Deslauriers is basically unplayable and only gets 7 minutes, Foerster is gifted way too much ice time that he doesn't deserve, and now they're trying to make Poehling the 3C after giving up on Cates.

Poehling had 14:55 at ES, Cates had 7:25.

Didn’t realize he’s a + 10. Wow. Well done. Still kind of shocked that they have a decent record without any semblance of a pp. this is starting to get embarrassing. What are the coaches doing to fix this other than scratching frost?
- Hextall271

Scratching Brink.

Foerster got 20 minutes of ice time and looked about as likely to score an NHL goal as that lady in the red shirt sitting behind Brindy.

That was a good win on the road, but it's bizarre to have Bobby Brink sitting in the stands while Deslauriers is basically unplayable and only gets 6 minutes, Foerster is gifted way too much ice time that he doesn't deserve, and now they're trying to make Poehling the 3C after giving up on Cates.
- Feanor

I agree about the 20 minutes but I like the player. He's just incredibly snakebitten. He made a good strong shot on one scoring chance where the goalie made a good save. I think he's going to be a player.

Of course, I agree about Deslauriers. It's interesting that Tortorella states that he wants to get Poehling going offensively so he needs to move him up in the lineup. Versus the team's leading ES scorer from last season when he struggled for a couple of games. He gets scratched for 7 games. That's the clown that Tortorella is.

Atkinson and Laughton were somewhat invisible to me last night - can only recall hearing their names a few times
- Bayareaflyer

Very Invisible IMO

Goodness, this coach looks terrible when they’re losing and suspect when they’re winning. His shelf life can’t be that long, right?

I agree about the 20 minutes but I like the player. He's just incredibly snakebitten. He made a good strong shot on one scoring chance where the goalie made a good save. I think he's going to be a player.

Of course, I agree about Deslauriers. It's interesting that Tortorella states that he wants to get Poehling going offensively so he needs to move him up in the lineup. Versus the team's leading ES scorer from last season when he struggled for a couple of games. He gets scratched for 7 games. That's the clown that Tortorella is.
- MJL

I would like Poehling to look better offensively as well, it would make it easier to trade him. I am all about who who the Flyers can trade this season.

I agree about the 20 minutes but I like the player. He's just incredibly snakebitten. He made a good strong shot on one scoring chance where the goalie made a good save. I think he's going to be a player.

Of course, I agree about Deslauriers. It's interesting that Tortorella states that he wants to get Poehling going offensively so he needs to move him up in the lineup. Versus the team's leading ES scorer from last season when he struggled for a couple of games. He gets scratched for 7 games. That's the clown that Tortorella is.
- MJL

Brink and Frost have been healthy scratched 10 times now. They have 10 ES points in 22 games.

Cates and Poehling have been healthy scratched three times. They have 5 ES points in 29 games.

Atkinson and Laughton were somewhat invisible to me last night - can only recall hearing their names a few times
- Bayareaflyer

Easily Atkinsons worst game of the season, he was bad everywhere

Bill Meltzer: Wrap: Flyers Defeat Hurricanes in Raleigh
- bmeltzer

Glad Phrost got an apple -- he deserves to keep playing since he got on the score sheet

#releasetheBrink

Walker looks like he is playing his way into a contract extension so fsr this season