Ryan Wilson: Penguins roster construction about to be put to the test Penguins roster construction about to be put to the test

Patrick Kane?

Patrick Kane?
- knagra

If they can LTIR Carter for the rest season I'd be all about it. I dont see any other way it happens, though. I would imagine even if Rak goes on LTIR he wont be gone all season. Rust sounds day to day at this point. Would have to have at least 3 mill cleared for the rest of the season for this to work. Thats assuming 3 mill is good for Kane...he may want more though Ive read reports it should be in the 3 to 4 mill range.

If we score, we may win, if they never score, we will never lose.

The Pens are 5-0 when they don't allow the other team to score. We are 9-8 when we score, 4-8 when we give up at least one goal.

Rakell cooked anyway.

100% chance of Carter back in the line up. Ugh.

Harkins? He was lost on the ice his short stint here.

It’s almost like when you put your entire off season into Erik Karlson and not depth scoring forwards you get Erik Karlson and not depth scoring forwards. Strange how this poop happens.

How many goals does a depth scorer score? Tatar was always used as an example of depth scoring and Acciari has more goals than he does.

Offer sheeting lafreniere would have solved many problems

Offer sheeting lafreniere would have solved many problems
- mkrisnosky

Would he want to come play for a worse team than the team he’s on though?

Would he want to come play for a worse team than the team he’s on though?
- Grinder47

It’s a moot point now but they could have given him a nice raise

It’s almost like when you put your entire off season into Erik Karlson and not depth scoring forwards you get Erik Karlson and not depth scoring forwards. Strange how this poop happens.
- Grinder47

Well if Hextall didn't (frank) it all up it actually is doable.

Would he want to come play for a worse team than the team he’s on though?
- Grinder47

I'm pretty sure he would have came to Sids team.

How many goals does a depth scorer score? Tatar was always used as an example of depth scoring and Acciari has more goals than he does.
- Grinder47

What Cullen did, what Carter used to do. Around 10-15 goals.

Well if Hextall didn't (frank) it all up it actually is doable.
- 668710

The only thing I’m sure about EK is that a player of his talents isn’t needed to play good competitive hockey. That and he’s nifty with the puck, and since he’s come into the league a team without him has won the cup.

The only thing I’m sure about EK is that a player of his talents isn’t needed to play good competitive hockey. That and he’s nifty with the puck, and since he’s come into the league a team without him has won the cup.
- Grinder47

You would not be happy with the list of your pet scrubs that never won Cups.

100% chance of Carter back in the line up. Ugh.

Harkins? He was lost on the ice his short stint here.
- coohill

You'll probably end up disappointed either way, but Harkins and Nylander both recalled. So maybe no Jeff Carter?

Surprised they didn't add a D. They did just sign one of their AHL kids, Samurakov, to an NHL deal to create another option. I know nothing about him but he's recently been listed as their top pair LD. Pysyk might have made more sense though as a righty.

Looking at cap friendly, Rackell is on LTIR which is no surprise. Samurakov is listed as contract pending so I guess he gets the call to be the extra until POJ returns.

What's a list of depth forwards the Pens could've plausibly signed who would've done anything? Tatar hasn't scored yet. Who else was RW wanting us to sign? (Keeping in mind we we had under $6M and 3 spots to fill.)

EK already has 5 goals and 17 points. Just tell the scrub forwards to stay high and let EK unleash the magic.

It’s almost like when you put your entire off season into Erik Karlson and not depth scoring forwards you get Erik Karlson and not depth scoring forwards. Strange how this poop happens.
- Grinder47

Lol. They moved out so many bad contracts with the EK trade it didn't affect anything else they wanted to do.

The real moves that used their space were Smith, Graves, Jarry, and to a smaller extent, Eller and Accari. Could they have spread on of those guys into 2 cheaper players? Maybe but you risk a drop off at a key spot (yes even with Jarry). Could have taken a flyer on a guy or two with offensive upside, but no guarantees there

Pens just sunk all their money into the top half of the roster. It's almost like you need your system to produce something.

Lol. They moved out so many bad contracts with the EK trade it didn't affect anything else they wanted to do.

The real moves that used their space were Smith, Graves, Jarry, and to a smaller extent, Eller and Accari. Could they have spread on of those guys into 2 cheaper players? Maybe but you risk a drop off at a key spot (yes even with Jarry). Could have taken a flyer on a guy or two with offensive upside, but no guarantees there

Pens just sunk all their money into the top half of the roster. It's almost like you need your system to produce something.
- Tojo.

Smith and Graves were good moves. Graves maybe hasn’t lived up to expectations but theoretically it was sound. The jarry contract stinks. There’s an argument we didn’t have a choice given the market. Idk how where I stand on that. Eller and Acciari were the cap eating moves that felt like unforced errors. Eller has panned out and has been worth the $2 mil. The Acciari contract looks like it might be a mini albatross (seagull?).

Really wish we'd tossed more draft capital to avoid the Petry retention since he was flipped from a rebuilding team to a different rebuilding team anyways

an extra 1.5 Million would come in handy

Smith and Graves were good moves. Graves maybe hasn’t lived up to expectations but theoretically it was sound. The jarry contract stinks. There’s an argument we didn’t have a choice given the market. Idk how where I stand on that. Eller and Acciari were the cap eating moves that felt like unforced errors. Eller has panned out and has been worth the $2 mil. The Acciari contract looks like it might be a mini albatross (seagull?).
- Victoro311

I agree with pretty much all this. Dubas quite frankly did better than any reasonable expectation. Eller I didn't like, but so far so good. Graves agree I liked even if it hasn't started the best.

I feel the choices at goal were pay Jarry, go cheap and hope you got someone on a miracle year like Hill, or force a team to trade someone who didn't move with an overwhelming offer we didn't have much amo to pull off. I just still don't see a good choice.

I agree with pretty much all this. Dubas quite frankly did better than any reasonable expectation. Eller I didn't like, but so far so good. Graves agree I liked even if it hasn't started the best.

I feel the choices at goal were pay Jarry, go cheap and hope you got someone on a miracle year like Hill, or force a team to trade someone who didn't move with an overwhelming offer we didn't have much amo to pull off. I just still don't see a good choice.
- Tojo.

I mean I spent two months joking about trading all of our bad players for all of their good players and he straight up did it. I have concerns about how the cap space was used but agree that Dubas went above and beyond any reasonable expectation on how to upgrade the roster.

The only thing I’m sure about EK is that a player of his talents isn’t needed to play good competitive hockey. That and he’s nifty with the puck, and since he’s come into the league a team without him has won the cup.
- Grinder47

You're not sure he's been a major factor in pretty much all of their W's so far this season? Are you even watching?

And judging players based on if they have a cup or not is straight up dumb. By this logic Bure, Lafontaine, Dionne, Iginla, Sundin, Karyia, Thorton, Lindros, Hawerchuk, Luongo and Lindquist weren't good and their talents didnt help their team play competitive hockey.

You're not sure he's been a major factor in pretty much all of their W's so far this season? Are you even watching?

And judging players based on if they have a cup or not is straight up dumb. By this logic Bure, Lafontaine, Dionne, Iginla, Sundin, Karyia, Thorton, Lindros, Hawerchuk, Luongo and Lindquist weren't good and their talents didnt help their team play competitive hockey.
- MattStrat

I’m not saying anything negative about him. I just dont think a player like him is a requirement to win hockey games.