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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Feb 23 @ 12:32 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Wings win OT thriller, and a quick glance at revenue issues for the league
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Feb 23 @ 1:10 PM ET
THANKS JL!!!!!
Wings are still giving up too any quality chances and Lyon is still able to hold the fort, he only had one stinker of a game so far. Yes, Larkin is a true #1C, and I always thought so, and am glad to see him be well worth his contract.

Deadbeat-pool is running the AZ franchise, and I hope it gets moved to SLC or Houston with new ownership!

I hope Kane is on this team next year, along with Sprong. Berggren needs to up with the Wings, too......or trade him in a package for a stud RD!

Berggren's trade market is starting to pick up significantly, as he now has several suitors. According to The Fourth Period, the Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators, Anaheim Ducks, Arizona Coyotes, and Calgary Flames are all linked to the skilled young forward. Do any RD's interest Y from any of these clubs? Gudas, Fowler (LD,RD), Chychrun (LD,RD), Kesselring, and Rasmus Andersson would interest me. Some of these would be a 1 for 1 trade, and others would have to be packaged.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Feb 23 @ 3:11 PM ET
We talked about this before. Here’s a reminder. Cocaine is not a banned substance for players, but it is for the IIHF. I’ll do a rewrite in the offseason but its reiterated here
Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Feb 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
THANKS JL!!!!!
Wings are still giving up too any quality chances and Lyon is still able to hold the fort, he only had one stinker of a game so far. Yes, Larkin is a true #1C, and I always thought so, and am glad to see him be well worth his contract.

Deadbeat-pool is running the AZ franchise, and I hope it gets moved to SLC or Houston with new ownership!

I hope Kane is on this team next year, along with Sprong. Berggren needs to up with the Wings, too......or trade him in a package for a stud RD!

Berggren's trade market is starting to pick up significantly, as he now has several suitors. According to The Fourth Period, the Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators, Anaheim Ducks, Arizona Coyotes, and Calgary Flames are all linked to the skilled young forward. Do any RD's interest Y from any of these clubs? Gudas, Fowler (LD,RD), Chychrun (LD,RD), Kesselring, and Rasmus Andersson would interest me. Some of these would be a 1 for 1 trade, and others would have to be packaged.

- HenryHockey


Berggren needs to stay right where he is.... He's going to be part of this team's new core eventually. If any of Detroit's forwards go down with injury he'll be the first call-up. This is especially important if the Wings do make the playoffs. I see Berggren eventually replacing Perron or Fabbri. I don't see Yzerman making a deal because the Wings need young talent. Only way I see a trade is if somebody overpays a ridiculous amount that is too good to pass up.

However.... I did just read about a rumor that Berggren just recently rejected Yzerman's contract extension offer. If that is true... and Yzerman can't make a deal to his liking with Berggren then he's going to be major trade bait. It would be the same type of situation Yzerman had with Bertuzzi. Yzerman made the right call and traded him. Bertuzzi has been a complete bust with Toronto this season .. especially considering what they paid him. Good riddance to him....
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Feb 23 @ 5:05 PM ET
Berggren needs to stay right where he is.... He's going to be part of this team's new core eventually. If any of Detroit's forwards go down with injury he'll be the first call-up. This is especially important if the Wings do make the playoffs. I see Berggren eventually replacing Perron or Fabbri. I don't see Yzerman making a deal because the Wings need young talent. Only way I see a trade is if somebody overpays a ridiculous amount that is too good to pass up.

However.... I did just read about a rumor that Berggren just recently rejected Yzerman's contract extension offer. If that is true... and Yzerman can't make a deal to his liking with Berggren then he's going to be major trade bait. It would be the same type of situation Yzerman had with Bertuzzi. Yzerman made the right call and traded him. Bertuzzi has been a complete bust with Toronto this season .. especially considering what they paid him. Good riddance to him....

- Vladdie_Kon1


I’ve sort of talked around it, but there is a “bad vibe” circling around this one. It’s a shame and I hope it gets figured out. All the veterans added to the roster and JB being squeezed out didn’t seen very well. this one is a little easier to see than Zadina’s departure. That one seemed to come out of the blue. If the offer was turned down, there’s a Dman at U of M that told Vancouver he’s hitting the open market. Different positions, but I’d be surprised if Yzerman hasn’t at least kicked the tires
czahaluk
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 10.02.2020

Feb 23 @ 5:26 PM ET
Unrelated but I wouldn't mind kicking tires on Gabe Klassen, undrafted C playing with Danielson
Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Feb 23 @ 6:39 PM ET
I’ve sort of talked around it, but there is a “bad vibe” circling around this one. It’s a shame and I hope it gets figured out. All the veterans added to the roster and JB being squeezed out didn’t seen very well. this one is a little easier to see than Zadina’s departure. That one seemed to come out of the blue. If the offer was turned down, there’s a Dman at U of M that told Vancouver he’s hitting the open market. Different positions, but I’d be surprised if Yzerman hasn’t at least kicked the tires
- Jeremy Laura


I really hope Yzerman and Berggren can work out a fair deal for both sides. Berggren is good enough to be on any NHL team right now. He's 23 years old. Let's get him in Detroit ASAP. Not sure how high his ceiling is... but I'd hate to see him moved and then see him flourish elsewhere.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Feb 23 @ 6:40 PM ET
Unrelated but I wouldn't mind kicking tires on Gabe Klassen, undrafted C playing with Danielson
- czahaluk


Your mind is in a good spot. Centers can go to the wing. If you have a good reel post the link. I love that kind of feedback.

Danielson, to me, is mentally mature in a way akin to Seider. Just seems to have so much going for him mentally and wasn’t intimidated hanging out with the pros at camp. I love Raymond’s creativity. Every second he sees Kane out there I hope he’s soaking it in. But Seider’s maturity hit me when I found out he requested interviews with every team before the draft. He wanted to experience the process and be comfortable in how you interact with GMs and staff. Not a lot kids sign up for something like that.Seider is still my favorite pick, but Danielson seems special. If he gave a recommendation on Klassen, I hope that would hold weight with the office
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Feb 23 @ 6:42 PM ET
I really hope Yzerman and Berggren can work out a fair deal for both sides. Berggren is good enough to be on any NHL team right now. He's 23 years old. Let's get him in Detroit ASAP. Not sure how high his ceiling is... but I'd hate to see him moved and then see him flourish elsewhere.
- Vladdie_Kon1


I feel like this has been a reverse Jurco. Babs wasted that kid’s season having him sit. Berggren stepped up last year. Playing depth minutes in the NHL would probably be more valuable even if they were fewer. It might have been Feds who said, “ho one knows exactly what happened with Vrana except the people that were in the room”. Berggren feels the same. If there’s an issue, it’s not being treated like a widely known issue. If he moves on, I would expect a comment
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Feb 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
Bergy's a weird situation. The kid's good, for sure. He's delivered when called upon, without fail. Maybe, and of course none of us truly knows, The Captain felt the kid was good last year but needed to hone his game a bit. That may have been a bit of a blow to Bergy's ego, understandably. I really hope he comes on like gang-busters when he gets back up to the NHL. He's doing very well in the "A"....something may be askew, but... Now, if (big IF...), he doesn't have a chance, he's gonna fetch a nice return. That being said, I'd really like to see him tear it up with the Wings instead of some other club.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Feb 23 @ 9:03 PM ET
THANKS JL!!!!!
Wings are still giving up too any quality chances and Lyon is still able to hold the fort, he only had one stinker of a game so far. Yes, Larkin is a true #1C, and I always thought so, and am glad to see him be well worth his contract.

Deadbeat-pool is running the AZ franchise, and I hope it gets moved to SLC or Houston with new ownership!

I hope Kane is on this team next year, along with Sprong. Berggren needs to up with the Wings, too......or trade him in a package for a stud RD!

Berggren's trade market is starting to pick up significantly, as he now has several suitors. According to The Fourth Period, the Montreal Canadiens, Ottawa Senators, Anaheim Ducks, Arizona Coyotes, and Calgary Flames are all linked to the skilled young forward. Do any RD's interest Y from any of these clubs? Gudas, Fowler (LD,RD), Chychrun (LD,RD), Kesselring, and Rasmus Andersson would interest me. Some of these would be a 1 for 1 trade, and others would have to be packaged.

- HenryHockey


Yep, you've been solidly in Larkin's corner, H. And stood tall when others tried to shoot you down. I heartily agree that he's a #1 C. He's starting to be recognized on the various NHL talk-shows as well. People are finally getting it; the kid's got IT. And I'd say that Kane & The Cat have helped free him up and opened up his game, he doesn't need to carry the team on his back...but he's truly the engine that drives Wing-train.

Now....if I had MY way, Chicky'd be a Wing. He may not be a top-line guy....yet, but I think he can be what the Wings need. Add on being under the tuteledge of someone like The Perfect Human & Kronner... his game would definitely grow. I'd be happy to see him in a red sweater and I think he'd do well. What I wouldn't do is send Bergy off to get him, I still want Bergy to stay in Hockeytown.

Gudas....yikes. I really have mixed feelings about him, H. There's no doubt he's a beast on the boue line. A brutal force that always gats people's attention when he's on the ice; game plans are set around him. But, you have to admit the guy's dangerous. He's a risk for suspensions ('course he wouldn't be hitting OUR guys, so the suspensions would go through the roof thanks to Butt-man's disdain for the Wings...), but.....Maybe. He'd bring a ton of grit to the blue line. Tough call, my friend.
saintdog19
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 10.23.2021

Feb 23 @ 9:36 PM ET
Goaltending is finally not an issue in Motown. And the team looks really good. We seem to start slow to often but by the end of the game we are in control. I would not mind if Yzerman brought back most of this team for another season. Sprong must be resigned and sooner better than later. Also Kane and Ghost would also be good decisions to resign. We do need to somehow make room for Bergeron who did deserve the right to be on this team. Yzerman really needs to unload Holl and Husso even if we have to include a draft pick this would free us up about 6 million. Example Husso and our 7th rd pick for nothing to unload that contract.
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Feb 24 @ 8:03 AM ET
Goaltending is finally not an issue in Motown. And the team looks really good. We seem to start slow to often but by the end of the game we are in control. I would not mind if Yzerman brought back most of this team for another season. Sprong must be resigned and sooner better than later. Also Kane and Ghost would also be good decisions to resign. We do need to somehow make room for Bergeron who did deserve the right to be on this team. Yzerman really needs to unload Holl and Husso even if we have to include a draft pick this would free us up about 6 million. Example Husso and our 7th rd pick for nothing to unload that contract.
- saintdog19


Mornin'. G is tricky, for sure. Lyon's been awesome, a revelation in net for us. Reimer's done exactly what he was signed for; provide stability in net if things went south. Husso's tricky. The issue is an over $5m contract. Not many SCPO teams can afford that without retention, and I believe we are 3/3 on allowed retained salary spots (someone fact-check me here...). And believe me, no one's gonna want to absorb the whole contract without incentives....started at the highest 2d we have, I believe. And, to add to the insanity, Cossa's blossoming into a very formidable threat. So what to do?? Welp, we could rely on "The Yzerman Mind Trick" whereby The Captain gets another GM alone and scrambles his brains so he agrees to taking Husso for a song......or, we let Husso's contract play out in the hopes that he turns his game around. I love the former, but sadly feel that the later is the only option. I think 3 Gs on the active roster may be the new way in the NHL.....
Vladdie_Kon1
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Joined: 04.21.2007

Feb 24 @ 10:21 AM ET
Goaltending is finally not an issue in Motown. And the team looks really good. We seem to start slow to often but by the end of the game we are in control. I would not mind if Yzerman brought back most of this team for another season. Sprong must be resigned and sooner better than later. Also Kane and Ghost would also be good decisions to resign. We do need to somehow make room for Bergeron who did deserve the right to be on this team. Yzerman really needs to unload Holl and Husso even if we have to include a draft pick this would free us up about 6 million. Example Husso and our 7th rd pick for nothing to unload that contract.
- saintdog19


The only way Yzerman would be able to move Husso would be to retain salary. Also... I doubt there is any team that wants an overpaid goalie who isn't even a bonafide starter. Plus he keeps getting injured so there are now questions about his durability. But I do agree with the points you made about dumping Husso and Holl. I did not like the term of the Holl contract at all... he's a bottom pairing defenseman getting paid like a top 4 defenseman... and he's just not that good. Agree on resigning Ghost, Sprong... and Kane as well IF they can still get Berggren in the lineup too.
Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Feb 24 @ 11:39 AM ET
The only way Yzerman would be able to move Husso would be to retain salary. Also... I doubt there is any team that wants an overpaid goalie who isn't even a bonafide starter. Plus he keeps getting injured so there are now questions about his durability. But I do agree with the points you made about dumping Husso and Holl. I did not like the term of the Holl contract at all... he's a bottom pairing defenseman getting paid like a top 4 defenseman... and he's just not that good. Agree on resigning Ghost, Sprong... and Kane as well IF they can still get Berggren in the lineup too.
- Vladdie_Kon1


I don’t want to sound like a jerk, but I’d be fine if they waived Holl and brought up a younger ELC player next year. They can’t bury Holl’s salary but just feels like there are better options.

This Berggren thing is really bugging me. Two guys who have given me solid tips in the past won’t even comment on it. Not even a “fluid situation” type deal
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 24 @ 11:50 AM ET
I hate the red wings. I hate them. I like Perron, Husso, and the other former Blues. I wish Fabbri could stay healthy but that can’t happen
czahaluk
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 10.02.2020

Feb 24 @ 12:30 PM ET
Big fan of this line roll out.
Move sprong up to line 3 with veleno and Perron and I’d be extra happy
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 24 @ 12:35 PM ET
I woke up early and interrupted a drunken slumber for this poop! Glad I’m drinking again or I’d be pissed off
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 24 @ 12:53 PM ET
(frank) the wings. (frank) the blues. (frank) this game. 4-0 not even 1st intermission
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Feb 24 @ 1:16 PM ET
I don’t want to sound like a jerk, but I’d be fine if they waived Holl and brought up a younger ELC player next year. They can’t bury Holl’s salary but just feels like there are better options.

This Berggren thing is really bugging me. Two guys who have given me solid tips in the past won’t even comment on it. Not even a “fluid situation” type deal

- Jeremy Laura


Holl has played........ This was a bad contract, period. He's ours through '26 and costs $3.5m....When I look at that number, we aren't getting a decent ROI by any means, makes me cringe. I can say The Captain lost on that bet. We could wauve him, we'd only be able to bury around $1.5m, I believe (again, fact-check me please). It'd be worth it if we could bring Eddy up (think he's the most NHL ready d-dude...).

Husson's contract is $4.7m throught next year. No one's gonna take that on without a sweetener. BUT, we only have a year left with him which gives Cossa more game time (he's really turned a corner, he's gonna be solid....), and Augustine time to develop. Again, I seriously think that 3 Gs is going to be the way teams end up going. Imagine if we had Husso & Reimer, but Lyon was forced to be buried in the A? We'd be screwed. Lyon's the guy, y'all. Husso? We're gonna have to suck that one up....OR package him up with Berggren (NOT the preferred Course of Action...). At this point, let it play out as much as I wholly dislike the idea. It's gonna cost us too much to move Husso....
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Feb 24 @ 1:20 PM ET

This Berggren thing is really bugging me. Two guys who have given me solid tips in the past won’t even comment on it. Not even a “fluid situation” type deal

- Jeremy Laura


We may never know, but if YOU aren't being given the inside story.... There's something there, though. Wild speculation is disingenuous, but I'd really like to know what happened. He's tearing up the A, so I'd be surprised (and disappointed...) if he doesn't make the ON roster next year. If we trade him, it better be to a Western team, or he's gonna be a handful for us.....
mcmastermike1968
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Columbia, SC
Joined: 07.01.2020

Feb 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
I hate the red wings. I hate them. I like Perron, Husso, and the other former Blues. I wish Fabbri could stay healthy but that can’t happen
- BluesDroogie


Perron's been the best pick-up, in my mind. I love Fabbri, make no mistake. But I'll not be surprised or disappointed to see him leave the Wings. This team has serious chemistry right now, and Fabbri's showing his ability....gonna generate some trade interest....
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
Perron's been the best pick-up, in my mind. I love Fabbri, make no mistake. But I'll not be surprised or disappointed to see him leave the Wings. This team has serious chemistry right now, and Fabbri's showing his ability....gonna generate some trade interest....
- mcmastermike1968

St. Louis loves Perron. Never forget that ha ha. Fan of him since he was drafted. Fabbri has a ton of talent. Brittle bones and bad ligaments. Liked him a lot in his little time with the Blues
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Feb 24 @ 1:47 PM ET
Perron's been the best pick-up, in my mind. I love Fabbri, make no mistake. But I'll not be surprised or disappointed to see him leave the Wings. This team has serious chemistry right now, and Fabbri's showing his ability....gonna generate some trade interest....
- mcmastermike1968

Perron on his exit interview said Army (Blues gm) didn’t even offer him a contract. I think army didn’t want to lowball him but damn. Yzerman snagged him for cheap
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Feb 24 @ 1:50 PM ET
St. Louis loves Perron. Never forget that ha ha. Fan of him since he was drafted. Fabbri has a ton of talent. Brittle bones and bad ligaments. Liked him a lot in his little time with the Blues
- BluesDroogie
Peron(1/2 salary)and Fabri for Buch.
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