Mike Augello: The Leafs Forward Targets: Part 1 - Retaining Their Own

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Mike Augello: The Leafs Forward Targets: Part 1 - Retaining Their Own
- mikeinbuffalo

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Turd

That’s crazy 💰 for Demelo

Zadorov Tanev Roy Edmundson or Hakanpaa please

Turd

That’s crazy 💰 for Demelo

Zadorov Tanev Roy Edmundson or Hakanpaa please
- mr.sir

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- dmnted

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Turd

That’s crazy 💰 for Demelo

Zadorov Tanev Roy Edmundson or Hakanpaa please
- mr.sir

Zadorov is going to cost too much and he's a LHD.

Tanev is washed, always injured.

Roy plays like an offensive D who doesn't score points.

Edmundson is huge but plays like he's 5'7". Also washed. Not a RHD either.

Hakanpaa is alright as a 3rd pair D.

DeMelo would have been great for the Leafs at that price. Hopefully Pesce is signed for a similar price. Adding two top four RHD should be a huge priority for the Leafs. Should try to add OEL too as an added threat on the PP.

Zadorov is going to cost too much and he's a LHD.
Can play both sides and is a proven playoff beast

Tanev is washed, always injured.
Warrior, Dallas wants to resign him

Roy plays like an offensive D who doesn't score points.
Cheaper 2nd pair RHD, if under 3.5m

Edmundson is huge but plays like he's 5'7". Also washed. Not a RHD either.
Edmundson was great in the playoffs and plays both sides. Anything 2.25m or less 👍

Hakanpaa is alright as a 3rd pair D.
Yup

DeMelo would have been great for the Leafs at that price(🙄god no). Hopefully Pesce is signed for a similar price( I predict 6.5m). Adding two top four RHD should be a huge priority for the Leafs (agreed). Should try to add OEL too (pass for me) as an added threat on the PP.
- Rare_Jewel

Ugh
See comments above

Montour is answer to any question

Marner not so much....but they will make the mistake of extending him

Turd

That’s crazy 💰 for Demelo

Zadorov Tanev Roy Edmundson or Hakanpaa please
- mr.sir

4.9? Naw, he'd have gotten more on the market.

Pesce's 2 yrs younger - somebody's going to offer him 6+
Roy ...5.5+

Montour and Skjei ....?

Ugh
See comments above
- mr.sir

Can play both sides and is a proven playoff beast.

Playing guys on their offside is stupid. The Leafs have done that for 5 years. It doesn't work when it matters. You always have one guy stuck on his backhand at the worst possible time. The Leafs need 3 LHD and 3 RHD and need to keep them on their strong side. End of story.

Warrior, Dallas wants to resign him

34 years old. They can keep him. He's always injured. Last thing the Leafs need is another LTIR boy like they had with Klingberg.

Cheaper 2nd pair RHD, if under 3.5m

Waste of money. He doesn't score enough, not big enough, doesn't shut guys down like a Pesce would. No chance he's signing for 3.5 anyway. These guys are all getting 4.5 AAV+ as UFAs.

Edmundson was great in the playoffs and plays both sides. Anything 2.25m or less 👍

Again, "both sides" is waiting for a disaster to happen. He wasn't that great at all. He wasn't even that great 5 years ago when he won a Cup. He's a bottom pairing D, not a difference maker in the top-four.

I predict 6.5m.

No way. Pesce had 13 points last year. He can defend but nobody is getting paid like that unless they can score points too.

Pass for me.

OEL is useful as a 3rd pair LHD who plays on the PP. If you look up leaders in PP goals by D, OEL is among the leaders over his career. He has a bomb shot that the Leafs PP need but for a lower price than usual.

Montour is answer to any question

Marner not so much....but they will make the mistake of extending him
- Koots 33

Montour is Bryan McCabe 2.0. Book it.

He had one huge 70 point season, just won a Cup. If Florida doesn't keep him, he's going to get a giant contract he doesn't deserve. Leafs shouldn't be the ones who give it to him.

Playing guys on their offside is stupid. The Leafs have done that for 5 years. It doesn't work when it matters. You always have one guy stuck on his backhand at the worst possible time. The Leafs need 3 LHD and 3 RHD and need to keep them on their strong side. End of story.



34 years old. They can keep him. He's always injured. Last thing the Leafs need is another LTIR boy like they had with Klingberg.



Waste of money. He doesn't score enough, not big enough, doesn't shut guys down like a Pesce would. No chance he's signing for 3.5 anyway. These guys are all getting 4.5 AAV+ as UFAs.



Again, "both sides" is waiting for a disaster to happen. He wasn't that great at all. He wasn't even that great 5 years ago when he won a Cup. He's a bottom pairing D, not a difference maker in the top-four.



No way. Pesce had 13 points last year. He can defend but nobody is getting paid like that unless they can score points too.



OEL is useful as a 3rd pair LHD who plays on the PP. If you look up leaders in PP goals by D, OEL is among the leaders over his career. He has a bomb shot that the Leafs PP need but for a lower price than usual.
- Rare_Jewel

End of story! 😆
You’re funny

Obv, I’d prefer RHD if possible
Zadorov is a game changer, no RHD comparable i can see as UFA. I’d go 5.25m max

You also want to trade McCabe and bring in OEL 😑
That makes us even softer

If Lilly and Niemela can get things going offensively, no need for OEL

Need more knuckle draggers to clear the net

Bet on Pesce at 6.5m?

Cernak, Dumba, DeHaan, and Fleury to the rescue.

End of story! 😆
You’re funny

Obv, I’d prefer RHD if possible
Zadorov is a game changer, no RHD comparable i can see as UFA. I’d go 5.25m max

You also want to trade McCabe and bring in OEL 😑
That makes us even softer

If Lilly and Niemela can get things going offensively, no need for OEL

Need more knuckle draggers to clear the net

Bet on Pesce at 6.5m?
- mr.sir

Zadorov has been to the playoffs 5 times. In 2018/2019, playing for Colorado may I remind you, he played 12 games and had 0 points. Let's not pretend last season was what he does every single year in the playoffs. He has 58 career playoff games and 19 playoff points. 8 of them were this past playoff season. That's the definition of recency bias. And that's where teams make big UFA mistakes.

McCabe should be sold at his peak value yes. He needs an extension and isn't good enough to be overpaid to stay (didn't you learn your lesson with Muzzin?).

OEL might be softer but Benoit replaces McCabe's physicality at a cheaper price and OEL is a PP specialist who gets the PP going. That wins more games than having knuckle dragging McCabe overpaid long term.

Liljegren should be traded. He's not scoring points in the NHL. That's a total pipedream. Niemela is unknown one way or the other. In the short term, you're better off bringing in a proven PP threat.

When was the last time somebody paid a D 6.5+ AAV who had 13 points. He's defensively strong but 13 points? That's not 6.5+ AAV territory.

Zadorov has been to the playoffs 5 times. In 2018/2019, playing for Colorado may I remind you, he played 12 games and had 0 points. Let's not pretend last season was what he does every single year in the playoffs. He has 58 career playoff games and 19 playoff points. 8 of them were this past playoff season. That's the definition of recency bias. And that's where teams make big UFA mistakes.

McCabe should be sold at his peak value yes. He needs an extension and isn't good enough to be overpaid to stay. OEL might be softer but Benoit replaces McCabe's physicality at a cheaper price and OEL is a PP specialist who gets the PP going. That wins more games than having knuckle dragging McCabe overpaid long term.

Liljegren should be traded. He's not scoring points in the NHL. That's a total pipedream. Niemela is unknown one way or the other. In the short term, you're better off bringing in a proven PP threat.

When was the last time somebody paid a D 6.5+ AAV who had 13 points. He's defensively strong but 13 points? That's not 6.5+ AAV territory.
- Rare_Jewel

I don't think it's ever happened. But with the cap going up to 93M for 2025-2026 as per Friedman, I could see it happening now.

isn't keeping the puck out of your own net is like scoring!

Zadorov is going to cost too much and he's a LHD. Wrong RHD

Edit: OOPS, I'm wrong, wow just checked, thought he was RH this whole time, even watch him play quite a bit and didn't even notice.

Tanev is washed, always injured. Right

Roy plays like an offensive D who doesn't score points. So wrong, not even close

Edmundson is huge but plays like he's 5'7". Also washed. Not a RHD either.

Hakanpaa is alright as a 3rd pair D.

DeMelo would have been great for the Leafs at that price. Hopefully Pesce is signed for a similar price. Adding two top four RHD should be a huge priority for the Leafs. Should try to add OEL too as an added threat on the PP.
- Rare_Jewel

I don't think it's ever happened. But with the cap going up to 93M for 2025-2026 as per Friedman, I could see it happening now.
- The Judge

Well, that's next July 1st, not this one.

At a certain point, teams will reach a "budget cap" where teams could spend more money but choose not to because the owners don't want them to kind of like in baseball where you have teams that spend a quarter of what the Yankees spend but still win more games.

And players will always be challenged by the question of "do you want max dollars" vs. "do you want to play for a contender". Because as much as San Jose can offer any UFA, they still have to play on the worst team in the NHL. For some guys, that'd be worth it. But not for others.

doesn't McCabe play on the PK.
does OEL play on the PK as well?

Well, that's next July 1st, not this one.

At a certain point, teams will reach a "budget cap" where teams could spend more money but choose not to because the owners don't want them to kind of like in baseball where you have teams that spend a quarter of what the Yankees spend but still win more games.

And players will always be challenged by the question of "do you want max dollars" vs. "do you want to play for a contender". Because as much as San Jose can offer any UFA, they still have to play on the worst team in the NHL. For some guys, that'd be worth it. But not for others.
- Rare_Jewel

Gonna be another long night of this bumhole knowing everything while not so subtly pointing out everyone else knows nothing.

doesn't McCabe play on the PK.
does OEL play on the PK as well?
- dmnted

Didn't both the PK and the PP suck in the playoffs?

Crepeau is the man. The dirty Peru players and the poopy refs can suck it.

Montour is answer to any question

Marner not so much....but they will make the mistake of extending him
- Koots 33

The answer to adding a top 4 RD is to make it part of a Marner deal. Gotta have an auction and see who's willing to part with what we need. It's best that they go fleece old man Lou for a young RD. Noah Dobson is the ticket. Make it so!