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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Jul 10 @ 8:23 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Caravan,
huks99
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Austin, TX
Joined: 10.05.2007

Jul 10 @ 8:53 AM ET
Thanks Bill, hoping your Texas home was unscathed thru the hurricane.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 10 @ 8:56 AM ET
Thanks Bill, hoping your Texas home was unscathed thru the hurricane.
- huks99


Thank you! We got very lucky. No damage or power outage. A tornado hit eight miles south and nearest highway was closed off for a day.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jul 10 @ 9:23 AM ET
Is Joe Watson really 80? Man, he looks great.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 9:36 AM ET
I have played against the Alumni team a handful of times and Joe Watson is one classy guy. All around personable guy that makes everyone feel welcome.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 10 @ 9:51 AM ET

Today @ 8:41 AM ET
Under Briere and Jones the buzz word has been transparency. Now if you think they are selling BS, it really doesn't matter what they say. But yes, I've seen multiple reports that the Fyers have dangled Farabee, Frost and Laughton out there and have not got a lot of interest. Are these reports true? Who knows for sure.
- jd250


Can you link to one report? Just one, not a lot to ask for because I guarantee what you're inferring, does not exist.
- MJL

You asked for just one, I give you two:

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_open_to_trading_young_forward_coming_off_career_year/s1_14825_40510187#:~:text=The%20Flyers%20are%20dangling%20forward,the%20highest%20it's%20ever%20been.

https://www.broadstreetho...delphia-flyers-offseason/
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 10 @ 9:55 AM ET
You asked for just one, I give you two:

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_open_to_trading_young_forward_coming_off_career_year/s1_14825_40510187#:~:text=The%20Flyers%20are%20dangling%20forward,the%20highest%20it's%20ever%20been.

https://www.broadstreetho...delphia-flyers-offseason/

- jd250



I don't see where it says they aren't getting a lot of interest?

We have already established that Briere says Laughton was getting a lot of interest but that they want more than fair value.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 9:57 AM ET
I don't see where it says they aren't getting a lot of interest?

We have already established that Briere says Laughton was getting a lot of interest but that they want more than fair value.

- MBFlyerfan


Yep, neither article mentions they are available but nothing really about teams interest.

the bolded cracks me up b/c Jonesy is on record the want trades to be fair for both sides
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 10 @ 9:58 AM ET
I don't see where it says they aren't getting a lot of interest?

We have already established that Briere says Laughton was getting a lot of interest but that they want more than fair value.

- MBFlyerfan

That was regarding Laughton at last year's deadline. The fact that its July 10th and the Flyers have not comsumated a trade validates they have either not received interest or have not had any serious offers. No one right now is even reporting discussions at this point.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 9:59 AM ET
You asked for just one, I give you two:

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_open_to_trading_young_forward_coming_off_career_year/s1_14825_40510187#:~:text=The%20Flyers%20are%20dangling%20forward,the%20highest%20it's%20ever%20been.

https://www.broadstreetho...delphia-flyers-offseason/

- jd250


Kind of agree w MB here - does not really state anything about teams being interested in those players. Just really states they are possibly available.
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 10:00 AM ET
That was regarding Laughton at last year's deadline. The fact that its July 10th and the Flyers have not comsumated a trade validates they have either not received interest or have not had any serious offers. No one right now is even reporting discussions at this point.
- jd250


Or, in classic Flyers fashion, are overvaluing their own players?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Jul 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
Or, in classic Flyers fashion, are overvaluing their own players?
- Flyfly

possible, that is why I think it has to happen at the deadline this year. If the Flyers do not trade more veteran players and get this team into the top 10 of this draft, I will be off the Briere train, because I think that would be just plain stupid. The team is never going to rebuild picking 15th and higher and Briere has got to have his head in the sand if he thinks he can trade into the top 10 given what we have seen in the past few drafts; and this draft is supposed to be even better.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:04 AM ET
You asked for just one, I give you two:

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/flyers_open_to_trading_young_forward_coming_off_career_year/s1_14825_40510187#:~:text=The%20Flyers%20are%20dangling%20forward,the%20highest%20it's%20ever%20been.

https://www.broadstreetho...delphia-flyers-offseason/

- jd250


Where does it say in either of those articles that there has been very little interest? Exactly what I thought. You're full of poop and again, are inventing what doesn't exist and/or misreading what is written. Just as you do with everything. You've checked off the box of stupidity for today. You can start working on tomorrow.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jul 10 @ 10:05 AM ET
For what it’s worth, espn has the Flyers 19th in its way too early power rankings.

Nomansland. The Flyers love it here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:06 AM ET
That was regarding Laughton at last year's deadline. The fact that its July 10th and the Flyers have not comsumated a trade validates they have either not received interest or have not had any serious offers. No one right now is even reporting discussions at this point.
- jd250


LOL, there isn't another possibility? That the Flyers have gotten some good offers but turned them down because they want more?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:08 AM ET
possible, that is why I think it has to happen at the deadline this year. If the Flyers do not trade more veteran players and get this team into the top 10 of this draft, I will be off the Briere train, because I think that would be just plain stupid. The team is never going to rebuild picking 15th and higher and Briere has got to have his head in the sand if he thinks he can trade into the top 10 given what we have seen in the past few drafts; and this draft is supposed to be even better.
- jd250


Have you finally realized that trading up in the draft is not really realistic. After repeatedly posting over and over that you think the Flyers are going to trade up. Hey, it's dinner time and you realized the sun came up today.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 10 @ 10:12 AM ET
That was regarding Laughton at last year's deadline. The fact that its July 10th and the Flyers have not comsumated a trade validates they have either not received interest or have not had any serious offers. No one right now is even reporting discussions at this point.
- jd250



Sigh. Or it means they aren't seriously thinking about trading them.

You editorialized that they weren't receiving much interest. I 100% disprove that by pointing out what Briere said about Laughton specifically, you then move the goalposts to say you only meant now.

Black_Francis constantly wonders why people attack your points, saying he doesn't understand why. It is because you present certain facts (yes there are reports)and then present your own opinion (no interest) on those facts, as a fact.

For example, yes, there have been many reports that the Flyers are dangling Farabee, Frost, and Laughton. Most of them are just speculation based on what the team needs, and SHOULD do. You then present it as a fact that they are doing it and then further say they aren't receiving much interest. It is the second part that opens you up for debate, especially since, again, Briere stated specifically that Laughton received a lot of interest.

Briere, as far as I know, has never spoken about Farabee or Frost in that context. Only Laughton. That tells me that these "dangling" comments regarding Frost and Farabee are just speculation on the part of these sites to generate clicks.

Farabee and Frost may very well be the subject of discussions between Briere and other teams, it would be malfeasance on the part of Briere not to take calls on them. But even that is just speculation, just like all those articles.

The only fact is Laughton was getting offers and Briere turned them down.






landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:19 AM ET
That was regarding Laughton at last year's deadline. The fact that its July 10th and the Flyers have not comsumated a trade validates they have either not received interest or have not had any serious offers. No one right now is even reporting discussions at this point.
- jd250


Or they have decided against making trades and it’s not an actual rebuild …or at least what a traditional rebuild looks like.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
Sigh. Or it means they aren't seriously thinking about trading them.

You editorialized that they weren't receiving much interest. I 100% disprove that by pointing out what Briere said about Laughton specifically, you then move the goalposts to say you only meant now.

Black_Francis constantly wonders why people attack your points, saying he doesn't understand why. It is because you present certain facts (yes there are reports)and then present your own opinion (no interest) on those facts, as a fact.

For example, yes, there have been many reports that the Flyers are dangling Farabee, Frost, and Laughton. Most of them are just speculation based on what the team needs, and SHOULD do. You then present it as a fact that they are doing it and then further say they aren't receiving much interest. It is the second part that opens you up for debate, especially since, again, Briere stated specifically that Laughton received a lot of interest.

Briere, as far as I know, has never spoken about Farabee or Frost in that context. Only Laughton. That tells me that these "dangling" comments regarding Frost and Farabee are just speculation on the part of these sites to generate clicks.

Farabee and Frost may very well be the subject of discussions between Briere and other teams, it would be malfeasance on the part of Briere not to take calls on them. But even that is just speculation, just like all those articles.

The only fact is Laughton was getting offers and Briere turned them down.

- MBFlyerfan


Diplomatically put and well explained. It won't matter though, he is incapable of learning. Again yesterday, he posted that Konecny should only get 7 years because the Flyers are the only team that can offer him 8 years. Even though that has been explained to him numerous times on how that is wrong. It's just daily stupidity.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Jul 10 @ 10:30 AM ET
For what it’s worth, espn has the Flyers 19th in its way too early power rankings.

Nomansland. The Flyers love it here.

- StepfordSam


Is anyone surprised?
Flyfly
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wyomissing, PA
Joined: 06.23.2017

Jul 10 @ 10:31 AM ET
Sigh. Or it means they aren't seriously thinking about trading them.

You editorialized that they weren't receiving much interest. I 100% disprove that by pointing out what Briere said about Laughton specifically, you then move the goalposts to say you only meant now.

Black_Francis constantly wonders why people attack your points, saying he doesn't understand why. It is because you present certain facts (yes there are reports)and then present your own opinion (no interest) on those facts, as a fact.

For example, yes, there have been many reports that the Flyers are dangling Farabee, Frost, and Laughton. Most of them are just speculation based on what the team needs, and SHOULD do. You then present it as a fact that they are doing it and then further say they aren't receiving much interest. It is the second part that opens you up for debate, especially since, again, Briere stated specifically that Laughton received a lot of interest.

Briere, as far as I know, has never spoken about Farabee or Frost in that context. Only Laughton. That tells me that these "dangling" comments regarding Frost and Farabee are just speculation on the part of these sites to generate clicks.

Farabee and Frost may very well be the subject of discussions between Briere and other teams, it would be malfeasance on the part of Briere not to take calls on them. But even that is just speculation, just like all those articles.

The only fact is Laughton was getting offers and Briere turned them down.

- MBFlyerfan



Don't think this could be stated any better. Well done...
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 10 @ 10:37 AM ET
That was regarding Laughton at last year's deadline. The fact that its July 10th and the Flyers have not comsumated a trade validates they have either not received interest or have not had any serious offers. No one right now is even reporting discussions at this point.
- jd250


They aren't looking to trade Laughton. Plain and simple.

Guys like Seeler, Laughts, TK, Hathaway... they are "pros" and "Flyers" and will be counted on to transmit the culture forward. That's priority #1.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 10 @ 10:50 AM ET
That was regarding Laughton at last year's deadline. The fact that its July 10th and the Flyers have not comsumated a trade validates they have either not received interest or have not had any serious offers. No one right now is even reporting discussions at this point.
- jd250

no it does not in any way.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 10 @ 10:51 AM ET
For what it’s worth, espn has the Flyers 19th in its way too early power rankings.

Nomansland. The Flyers love it here.

- StepfordSam

that's pretty high really. what do they see !!!
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Jul 10 @ 10:54 AM ET
They aren't looking to trade Laughton. Plain and simple.

Guys like Seeler, Laughts, TK, Hathaway... they are "pros" and "Flyers" and will be counted on to transmit the culture forward. That's priority #1.

- Tomahawk

well GH already re-upped. Next summer they will re-up RP, Cates, and Laughton. That will be some funny ass stuff.

So of those 4 who do you see gone by next summer?
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