Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Briere on Flyers Daily, Erik Johnson, Caravan https://open.spotify.com/...si=2xbFG7QDTWeDMqhJdWqI7A

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Briere on Flyers Daily, Erik Johnson, Caravan
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- bmeltzer

Thanks Bill

Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Briere on Flyers Daily, Erik Johnson, Caravan
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- bmeltzer

Player with showmanship + Torts = ?????





my guess is disaster

Can't wait for the first time Michkov pisses off Torts early in a game and sits on the bench for the rest of it.

"I think the best part, for me, is for him (Michkov) to have the chance to learn and play under Torts. You know, Torts is tough, we all know that. They're critical years for the long term.

So having a chance to put our hands on him early, having Torts work with him and develop him, I think might be a game changer for his career."

Can't wait for the first time Michkov pisses of Torts early in a game and sits on the bench for the rest of it.
- Feanor

Before we can let the thoroughbred run, we have to make him into a plow horse. If he can't plow, we don't want him.

I guess it was open season on the Flyers young guys in the second half of the season when Nic D was healthy scratched for half the games.

"I look back at what Nic Deslauriers did, and Garnet Hathaway did, uh Nick Seeler was part of that group. You know, we talk about how well some of young guys developed. Part of the reason is how protected they were, and never have to worry going out there that someone's gonna take advantage of them, because nobody wanted to get into that type of game with the Flyers they knew we had too much backup. If they wanted to, you know, start playing that hard game."

Something that Charlie O'Connor brought up yesterday in his article that I posted really sunk in with me. I, like many of you, am very disappointed in this Flyers off season. I had hoped Briere would successfully trade into the top 10 and grab a potential elite talent, and also be able to trade some players to clear some cap and gain more draft capital. None of that has happened. I am happy with adding Luchenko since I see the upside, but clearly Briere was trying to trade into the top 10 to get a better player and failed.

So this brings me to the TK contract. I love TK and wanted the Flyers to extend him, but part of my reasoning was I expected the Flyers to be aggressive this off season and move this rebuild forward. They may have tried to be aggressive, but the bottom line is Briere failed. There is still the deadline coming up and the 2025 draft, but Charlie is right, now everything is riding on the deadline and the 2025 draft. Thus, it does not make sense to extend TK. If Briere had obtained good young assets that can play right now this off season it would have made sense IMO to extend TK, as long as the price was reasonable. But now I think Briere has got to trade TK because the window for this rebuild has just been pushed out another year at least. Briere did mention he has had trade talks with several teams but the window to get something done is closing for the summer. Thus I think we have to be prepared for the distraction next season of the looming TK contract or trading him at the deadline.

So yes, given the non events of this off-season, I think the Flyers need to trade TK, and that sucks.

I guess it was open season on the Flyers young guys in the second half of the season when Nic D was healthy scratched for half the games.

"I look back at what Nic Deslauriers did, and Garnet Hathaway did, uh Nick Seeler was part of that group. You know, we talk about how well some of young guys developed. Part of the reason is how protected they were, and never have to worry going out there that someone's gonna take advantage of them, because nobody wanted to get into that type of game with the Flyers they knew we had too much backup. If they wanted to, you know, start playing that hard game."
- Feanor

If that were true then how do teams without these heavy enforcer types on roster ever have young guys progress throughout the season?

Can't wait for the first time Michkov pisses of Torts early in a game and sits on the bench for the rest of it.
- Feanor

I think Torts and Michkov will get along great. I am basing this on the type of player I think Michkov is. However, if Michkov doesn't play the right way and is told the same thing multiple times and doesn't listen, he should be benched. Torts cannot treat Michkov differently than any other player on the team. However, I am tired of player benchings so I sincerely hope this year, no player gets benched becasue of their play.

Something that Charlie O'Connor brought up yesterday in his article that I posted really sunk in with me. I, like many of you, am very disappointed in this Flyers off season. I had hoped Briere would successfully trade into the top 10 and grab a potential elite talent, and also be able to trade some players to clear some cap and gain more draft capital. None of that has happened. I am happy with adding Luchenko since I see the upside, but clearly Briere was trying to trade into the top 10 to get a better player and failed.

So this brings me to the TK contract. I love TK and wanted the Flyers to extend him, but part of my reasoning was I expected the Flyers to be aggressive this off season and move this rebuild forward. They may have tried to be aggressive, but the bottom line is Briere failed. There is still the deadline coming up and the 2025 draft, but Charlie is right, now everything is riding on the deadline and the 2025 draft. Thus, it does not make sense to extend TK. If Briere had obtained good young assets that can play right now this off season it would have made sense IMO to extend TK, as long as the price was reasonable. But now I think Briere has got to trade TK because the window for this rebuild has just been pushed out another year at least. Briere did mention he has had trade talks with several teams but the window to get something done is closing for the summer. Thus I think we have to be prepared for the distraction next season of the looming TK contract or trading him at the deadline.

So yes, given the non events of this off-season, I think the Flyers need to trade TK, and that sucks.
- jd250

And I would have preferred they do it this off-season and not at the deadline for this reason. But that is what it is.

I like the part where he says the young guys developed because they "never had to worry about being taken advantage of" because of ND and Seeler.

"Nobody wanted to get into that type of game because the Flyers had to much backup".

That's why the Flyers value 4th liners and 3rd pairing D above all else, signing them to head scratching contracts. Because while other teams are looking for the next Connor McDavid or Bedard, the Flyers are worried about being taken advantage of on the ice.

Maybe the young guys who did develop did so because they got consistent ice time in better positions over an 82 game season than they did when in previous seasons? Opportunity + Talent?

No. It was because teams were afraid of Deslauriers and what he'd do to them if other teams tried to take the Flyers virtue.

Can't wait for the first time Michkov pisses of Torts early in a game and sits on the bench for the rest of it.
- Feanor

same here. it has the possibility to go south.

a chance to put their hand on him early....oh boy what could go wrong? turn him into a 3rd line checking winger?

danny love him some torts. so funny seeing how he played and what not.

Something that Charlie O'Connor brought up yesterday in his article that I posted really sunk in with me. I, like many of you, am very disappointed in this Flyers off season. I had hoped Briere would successfully trade into the top 10 and grab a potential elite talent, and also be able to trade some players to clear some cap and gain more draft capital. None of that has happened. I am happy with adding Luchenko since I see the upside, but clearly Briere was trying to trade into the top 10 to get a better player and failed.

So this brings me to the TK contract. I love TK and wanted the Flyers to extend him, but part of my reasoning was I expected the Flyers to be aggressive this off season and move this rebuild forward. They may have tried to be aggressive, but the bottom line is Briere failed. There is still the deadline coming up and the 2025 draft, but Charlie is right, now everything is riding on the deadline and the 2025 draft. Thus, it does not make sense to extend TK. If Briere had obtained good young assets that can play right now this off season it would have made sense IMO to extend TK, as long as the price was reasonable. But now I think Briere has got to trade TK because the window for this rebuild has just been pushed out another year at least. Briere did mention he has had trade talks with several teams but the window to get something done is closing for the summer. Thus I think we have to be prepared for the distraction next season of the looming TK contract or trading him at the deadline.

So yes, given the non events of this off-season, I think the Flyers need to trade TK, and that sucks.
- jd250

Trades rarely happen in the top 10. Glad he was trying to be aggressive but they passed up "possible elite talent" when the passed on Zeev.

I think Torts and Michkov will get along great. I am basing this on the type of player I think Michkov is. However, if Michkov doesn't play the right way and is told the same thing multiple times and doesn't listen, he should be benched. Torts cannot treat Michkov differently than any other player on the team. However, I am tired of player benchings so I sincerely hope this year, no player gets benched becasue of their play.
- jd250

you know this will not happen.

Something that Charlie O'Connor brought up yesterday in his article that I posted really sunk in with me. I, like many of you, am very disappointed in this Flyers off season. I had hoped Briere would successfully trade into the top 10 and grab a potential elite talent, and also be able to trade some players to clear some cap and gain more draft capital. None of that has happened. I am happy with adding Luchenko since I see the upside, but clearly Briere was trying to trade into the top 10 to get a better player and failed.

So this brings me to the TK contract. I love TK and wanted the Flyers to extend him, but part of my reasoning was I expected the Flyers to be aggressive this off season and move this rebuild forward. They may have tried to be aggressive, but the bottom line is Briere failed. There is still the deadline coming up and the 2025 draft, but Charlie is right, now everything is riding on the deadline and the 2025 draft. Thus, it does not make sense to extend TK. If Briere had obtained good young assets that can play right now this off season it would have made sense IMO to extend TK, as long as the price was reasonable. But now I think Briere has got to trade TK because the window for this rebuild has just been pushed out another year at least. Briere did mention he has had trade talks with several teams but the window to get something done is closing for the summer. Thus I think we have to be prepared for the distraction next season of the looming TK contract or trading him at the deadline.

So yes, given the non events of this off-season, I think the Flyers need to trade TK, and that sucks.
- jd250

- if danny did his job and was actually rebuilding they would have had a top pick. your boy danny failed in that aspect. the fact they were willing to trade assets shows how ass backward this "rebuild" really is a farce

- after the trade deadline and 2025 it will then be let's focus on 2026. nothing but selling a false bill of good.

- MM wanted to be a flyer (per danny boy interview), so did cutter....

I guess it was open season on the Flyers young guys in the second half of the season when Nic D was healthy scratched for half the games.

"I look back at what Nic Deslauriers did, and Garnet Hathaway did, uh Nick Seeler was part of that group. You know, we talk about how well some of young guys developed. Part of the reason is how protected they were, and never have to worry going out there that someone's gonna take advantage of them, because nobody wanted to get into that type of game with the Flyers they knew we had too much backup. If they wanted to, you know, start playing that hard game."
- Feanor

still selling the same BS and sadly many buy it.

nobody wanted to get into that type of game....correct they want to win.

same here. it has the possibility to go south.

a chance to put their hand on him early....oh boy what could go wrong? turn him into a 3rd line checking winger?

danny love him some torts. so funny seeing how he played and what not.
- hello it's me 2050

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it could get very interesting for the upcoming season. the players were pissed at torts at the end of the year. if they start losing and go on a bad run I am positive torts will say something ridiculous to the media. players could turn on him quick if things go south.

I think Torts and Michkov will get along great. I am basing this on the type of player I think Michkov is. However, if Michkov doesn't play the right way and is told the same thing multiple times and doesn't listen, he should be benched. Torts cannot treat Michkov differently than any other player on the team. However, I am tired of player benchings so I sincerely hope this year, no player gets benched becasue of their play.
- jd250

define playing the right way please.

yes he can and should treat him differently. thats how life works.

Something that Charlie O'Connor brought up yesterday in his article that I posted really sunk in with me. I, like many of you, am very disappointed in this Flyers off season. I had hoped Briere would successfully trade into the top 10 and grab a potential elite talent, and also be able to trade some players to clear some cap and gain more draft capital. None of that has happened. I am happy with adding Luchenko since I see the upside, but clearly Briere was trying to trade into the top 10 to get a better player and failed.

So this brings me to the TK contract. I love TK and wanted the Flyers to extend him, but part of my reasoning was I expected the Flyers to be aggressive this off season and move this rebuild forward. They may have tried to be aggressive, but the bottom line is Briere failed. There is still the deadline coming up and the 2025 draft, but Charlie is right, now everything is riding on the deadline and the 2025 draft. Thus, it does not make sense to extend TK. If Briere had obtained good young assets that can play right now this off season it would have made sense IMO to extend TK, as long as the price was reasonable. But now I think Briere has got to trade TK because the window for this rebuild has just been pushed out another year at least. Briere did mention he has had trade talks with several teams but the window to get something done is closing for the summer. Thus I think we have to be prepared for the distraction next season of the looming TK contract or trading him at the deadline.

So yes, given the non events of this off-season, I think the Flyers need to trade TK, and that sucks.
- jd250

They didn’t need to trade into the top 10. They needed to move players before season started to NOT have a chance to be anywhere near playoffs. Same as this tdl and draft and free agency period. They did exactly what they did last year. So prepared for another season likely to hover in that 8-12 range likely outside the elite talent drafting spot.

Remember last season how you were living the team. Wanted to see them win. Make playoffs. Sucking off every useless point they got? You’ll be doing same thing this season. I get it. You’re still in that 90%er stage of fandom.

Just remember next season when people are ragging you about how in summer you wanted players traded and to draft top 5. How what they are doing goes against that.

What db could’ve done last season when unexpected good run and other teams flailing was move players out with value. Put a halt on getting useless points. They didn’t. They won’t. No rebuild. Status quo.

But hey the fans started coming to games more and more as useless points gained. Profit book looked better. Cumcast with a smile. Status quo.


No playoffs
No cup
Rhetoric in summer
Spin whatever you can
Sell marketing campaign
Watch 90%ers lick up jizz
Wash
Rinse
Repeat
Status quo


This is flyer fandom

And I would have preferred they do it this off-season and not at the deadline for this reason. But that is what it is.
- MBFlyerfan

I do not think it is a distraction. its an artificial excuse to me.

Now one thing is, seeing where the flyers are at will tk really want to go out and bust his ass every day knowing he is about to cash in? will he lay it on the line?

listening to the danny interview. says Jett is willing to block shots lol....yeah that's what I want my top guys to do on a daily basis.

I think Torts and Michkov will get along great. I am basing this on the type of player I think Michkov is. However, if Michkov doesn't play the right way and is told the same thing multiple times and doesn't listen, he should be benched. Torts cannot treat Michkov differently than any other player on the team. However, I am tired of player benchings so I sincerely hope this year, no player gets benched becasue of their play.
- jd250

Prime example how eyes and brain don’t connect for you… regardless how you feel about torts his track record plays over and over and over again.

Mm won’t be different. Get it out of your head. No one is above torts(see past)


What you are hoping for is simply licking the jizz.

Something that Charlie O'Connor brought up yesterday in his article that I posted really sunk in with me. I, like many of you, am very disappointed in this Flyers off season. I had hoped Briere would successfully trade into the top 10 and grab a potential elite talent, and also be able to trade some players to clear some cap and gain more draft capital. None of that has happened. I am happy with adding Luchenko since I see the upside, but clearly Briere was trying to trade into the top 10 to get a better player and failed.

So this brings me to the TK contract. I love TK and wanted the Flyers to extend him, but part of my reasoning was I expected the Flyers to be aggressive this off season and move this rebuild forward. They may have tried to be aggressive, but the bottom line is Briere failed. There is still the deadline coming up and the 2025 draft, but Charlie is right, now everything is riding on the deadline and the 2025 draft. Thus, it does not make sense to extend TK. If Briere had obtained good young assets that can play right now this off season it would have made sense IMO to extend TK, as long as the price was reasonable. But now I think Briere has got to trade TK because the window for this rebuild has just been pushed out another year at least. Briere did mention he has had trade talks with several teams but the window to get something done is closing for the summer. Thus I think we have to be prepared for the distraction next season of the looming TK contract or trading him at the deadline.

So yes, given the non events of this off-season, I think the Flyers need to trade TK, and that sucks.
- jd250

If the team was truly rebuilding they would have been picking in the top 5 and would not have needed to trade up

define playing the right way please.

yes he can and should treat him differently. thats how life works.
- hello it's me 2050

playing the right way = pay their fair share

Something that Charlie O'Connor brought up yesterday in his article that I posted really sunk in with me. I, like many of you, am very disappointed in this Flyers off season. I had hoped Briere would successfully trade into the top 10 and grab a potential elite talent, and also be able to trade some players to clear some cap and gain more draft capital. None of that has happened. I am happy with adding Luchenko since I see the upside, but clearly Briere was trying to trade into the top 10 to get a better player and failed.

So this brings me to the TK contract. I love TK and wanted the Flyers to extend him, but part of my reasoning was I expected the Flyers to be aggressive this off season and move this rebuild forward. They may have tried to be aggressive, but the bottom line is Briere failed. There is still the deadline coming up and the 2025 draft, but Charlie is right, now everything is riding on the deadline and the 2025 draft. Thus, it does not make sense to extend TK. If Briere had obtained good young assets that can play right now this off season it would have made sense IMO to extend TK, as long as the price was reasonable. But now I think Briere has got to trade TK because the window for this rebuild has just been pushed out another year at least. Briere did mention he has had trade talks with several teams but the window to get something done is closing for the summer. Thus I think we have to be prepared for the distraction next season of the looming TK contract or trading him at the deadline.

So yes, given the non events of this off-season, I think the Flyers need to trade TK, and that sucks.
- jd250

Charlie has said several times that trades for top 10 picks never happen or rarely happen. So how was he disappointed if he knows they don't happen.

hunter mac hype in full force. he will get to play with nick seeler. flyers are fortunate to have both per danny boy.