Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: WJSS Openers, Flyers Daily

The bottom line: Although Kolosov has NOT given assurances that he is definitely reporting for training camp in September, the opposite is also true. The player has never told the Flyers that he is not planning to come nor has either Kolosov or the Dinamo Minsk organization asked the Flyers for permission to break the second year of his entry-level NHL contract. The organization is adamant that Kolosov never told the Flyers has was not planning to return to Lehigh Valley after his three-plus week stint near the end of the 2023-24 season.

As with everything else Kolosov related, unless Kolosov makes a statement or someone has spoken directly to Kolosov, this is all speculation. The FO has shown that they will lie about players (and feign ignorance) when it is convenient.

This could be accurate but the Flyers have earned the right not to be given the benefit of the doubt.

Travis Sanheim :
“I hadn’t talked to him, only thing that I had heard was the development [camp], not wanting to be there, so obviously as a player in this locker room, that was something that stayed with us.

For as long as I know, you show up to development camp whether you skate or not.

I think if he doesn’t want to be here, we’re happy to move on and get the pieces that we did.”

If you didn't know who Sanheim was talking about, would you think Kolosov would be welcome in that locker room after he "overslept" and didn't show?

As with everything else Kolosov related, unless Kolosov makes a statement or someone has spoken directly to Kolosov, this is all speculation. The FO has shown that they will lie about players (and feign ignorance) when it is convenient.

This could be accurate but the Flyers have earned the right not to be given the benefit of the doubt.
- Flyers_01

wonder if they now regret giving Ivan that 2 year guaranteed deal for all that cash.

wonder if they now regret giving Ivan that 2 year guaranteed deal for all that cash.
- hello it's me 2050

Kolosov has to be slightly miffed that Fedotov got paid and was basically handed the NHL backup role. Meanwhile Kolosov is all but guaranteed to be in Allentown making low six figures.

wonder if they now regret giving Ivan that 2 year guaranteed deal for all that cash.
- hello it's me 2050

That was all about the Flyers playoffs hopes fading. You have to wonder how that would've played out if the flyers weren't desperate.

https://www.nytimes.com/a...lyers-playoffs-offseason/

Up until that day, it was tough to gauge just how much value those in charge of the club were putting on making the playoffs.
Briere, though, plainly indicated over the next 18 minutes that, yes, it was a priority. He uttered the word “playoff” or “playoffs”
five times over that span, while appearing confident that the team — 33-23-8 at the time — would qualify.

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- bmeltzer

If the flyers leadership were adamant that the sun rises in the east I am not sure I’d believe them

Kolosov has to be slightly miffed that Fedotov got paid and was basically handed the NHL backup role. Meanwhile Kolosov is all but guaranteed to be in Allentown making low six figures.
- mickel25

Personally, if that is the issue, I think Kolosov is out of line.

Personally, if that is the issue, I think Kolosov is out of line.
- MJL

why is he out of line? he wants to compete for a spot where they have basically said there is no competition.

Personally, if that is the issue, I think Kolosov is out of line.
- MJL

I agree. I also do not think Fedotov should be handed the role either.

Personally, if that is the issue, I think Kolosov is out of line.
- MJL

Can't really blame him if he'd rather go home and make more money and be more comfortable in his limited time as a hockey player.

Just because they drafted him doesn't mean he really owes the Flyers anything.

Kolosov has to be slightly miffed that Fedotov got paid and was basically handed the NHL backup role. Meanwhile Kolosov is all but guaranteed to be in Allentown making low six figures.
- mickel25

I don't know, Fedotov is 27 and will be 28 in November. He is already coming from the KHL as an established goalie in that league.

I don't know, Fedotov is 27 and will be 28 in November. He is already coming from the KHL as an established goalie in that league.
- MBFlyerfan

I get he is older and more established internationally. Not sure how that earned him the contract he received and basically being locked into a backup role in the NHL. Unless the Flyers are going to carry three goalies at some point Fedotov is a lock as the backup.

I get he is older and more established internationally. Not sure how that earned him the contract he received and basically being locked into a backup role in the NHL. Unless the Flyers are going to carry three goalies at some point Fedotov is a lock as the backup.
- mickel25

The explanation I read was that his KHL salary was in the same ballpark when you take in to consideration of the exchange rate. I cant confirm that because there doesn't seem to be a site (that I can access) where his KHL salary is listed. (Im behind a firewall that blocks Russian based websites)

Can't really blame him if he'd rather go home and make more money and be more comfortable in his limited time as a hockey player.

Just because they drafted him doesn't mean he really owes the Flyers anything.
- Tomahawk

He signed a contract so he does, same as Fedotov when he didn't want to come over.

https://apnews.com/articl...1c0492d434951e277765adbbf

First Gauthier, then Fedotov, and now maybe Kolosov. Do any other teams have this much trouble getting their prospects to want to play for them? It just feels every year it's something.

The explanation I read was that his KHL salary was in the same ballpark when you take in to consideration of the exchange rate. I cant confirm that because there doesn't seem to be a site (that I can access) where his KHL salary is listed. (Im behind a firewall that blocks Russian based websites)
- MBFlyerfan

In the end it may not matter much. But right now the Flyers have two non NHL level goalies dictating terms to them. Not ideal to say the least. Hopefully one of them is worth the hassle.

He signed a contract so he does, same as Fedotov when he didn't want to come over.

https://apnews.com/articl...1c0492d434951e277765adbbf

First Gauthier, then Fedotov, and now maybe Kolosov. Do any other teams have this much trouble getting their prospects to want to play for them? It just feels every year it's something.
- Flyers_01

Why are you including Fedotov?

Can't really blame him if he'd rather go home and make more money and be more comfortable in his limited time as a hockey player.

Just because they drafted him doesn't mean he really owes the Flyers anything.
- Tomahawk

I agree and that wouldn't be an issue for me. I'm referring to him hypothetically being miffed because of what Fedetov has been given.

Why are you including Fedotov?
- MBFlyerfan

Because he wanted to be thrown in a van, poisoned and forced to join the military days after signing his contract, duh!!

😂

It would help if he actually read the article and not just the headline 😆

Because he wanted to be thrown in a van, poisoned and forced to join the military days after signing his contract, duh!!

😂

It would help if he actually read the article and not just the headline 😆
- anti-lame

https://apnews.com/articl...1c0492d434951e277765adbbf

CSKA announced last month that it signed Fedotov to a two-year contract. Fedotov at the time said he completed his military service, according to comments reported by Russian government daily newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

The IIHF, hockey’s world governing board, determined the deal to be a breach of international transfer regulations because Fedotov did not obtain a release from his contract with the Flyers, and it sanctioned the 26-year-old and CSKA. Fedotov was given a four-month IIHF suspension, spanning from CSKA’s first regular-season game on Sept. 1 through Dec. 31.

The article clearly talks about the contract with the KHL he signed AFTER his military service. Unless something has come out about him being forced to sign that contract, he was initially planning on staying in Russia and not coming over to the Flyers until the Flyers initiated legal action.

As it relates to Kolosov signing with the KHL, if that is what he wants, and ignoring the NHL contract not an option after the Fedotov ruling and fallout.

Travis Sanheim :
“I hadn’t talked to him, only thing that I had heard was the development
- Flyers_01[camp], not wanting to be there, so obviously as a player in this locker room, that was something that stayed with us.

For as long as I know, you show up to development camp whether you skate or not.

I think if he doesn’t want to be here, we’re happy to move on and get the pieces that we did.”

If you didn't know who Sanheim was talking about, would you think Kolosov would be welcome in that locker room after he "overslept" and didn't show?

I would think he was talking about someone who has verbally said they don't want to be here

https://apnews.com/articl...1c0492d434951e277765adbbf

CSKA announced last month that it signed Fedotov to a two-year contract. Fedotov at the time said he completed his military service, according to comments reported by Russian government daily newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

The IIHF, hockey’s world governing board, determined the deal to be a breach of international transfer regulations because Fedotov did not obtain a release from his contract with the Flyers, and it sanctioned the 26-year-old and CSKA. Fedotov was given a four-month IIHF suspension, spanning from CSKA’s first regular-season game on Sept. 1 through Dec. 31.

The article clearly talks about the contract with the KHL he signed AFTER his military service. Unless something has come out about him being forced to sign that contract, he was initially planning on staying in Russia and not coming over to the Flyers until the Flyers initiated legal action.

As it relates to Kolosov signing with the KHL, if that is what he wants, and ignoring the NHL contract not an option after the Fedotov ruling and fallout.
- Flyers_01

"Not Forced" funny

https://apnews.com/articl...1c0492d434951e277765adbbf

CSKA announced last month that it signed Fedotov to a two-year contract. Fedotov at the time said he completed his military service, according to comments reported by Russian government daily newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

The IIHF, hockey’s world governing board, determined the deal to be a breach of international transfer regulations because Fedotov did not obtain a release from his contract with the Flyers, and it sanctioned the 26-year-old and CSKA. Fedotov was given a four-month IIHF suspension, spanning from CSKA’s first regular-season game on Sept. 1 through Dec. 31.

The article clearly talks about the contract with the KHL he signed AFTER his military service. Unless something has come out about him being forced to sign that contract, he was initially planning on staying in Russia and not coming over to the Flyers until the Flyers initiated legal action.

As it relates to Kolosov signing with the KHL, if that is what he wants, and ignoring the NHL contract not an option after the Fedotov ruling and fallout.
- Flyers_01

🤔 😂

He signed a contract so he does, same as Fedotov when he didn't want to come over.

https://apnews.com/articl...1c0492d434951e277765adbbf

First Gauthier, then Fedotov, and now maybe Kolosov. Do any other teams have this much trouble getting their prospects to want to play for them? It just feels every year it's something.
- Flyers_01

The contract was signed in the absence of a transfer agreement so it doesn't mean much. Flyers can either loan him or suspend him. They really can't stop him.

Agreed on your last point. There's definitely something up with the way they're handling or communicating with their kids. Hopefully they don't step on any mines when dealing with Michkov.

I agree and that wouldn't be an issue for me. I'm referring to him hypothetically being miffed because of what Fedetov has been given.
- MJL

He's got near the same number of KHL starts as Fedotov yet the team hands an NHL job to Feds and apparently doesn't plan to give him a shot... maybe that's his POV.

Either way, he could just go back to Minsk, be a star and be around his family and friends. Or he could ride busses alone for pennies on the dollar for the next 2+ years.

You'd only put up with that if your dream was to be an NHL player. Maybe that's not the case for him after all.