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Jeremy Laura
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 01.26.2016

Today @ 1:26 PM ET
Jeremy Laura: Possible last look for prospects/PTOs vs Ottawa
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Today @ 2:51 PM ET
Just my opinion, but the Wings and Yzerman are still very much in a building mode. When Yzerman took over in late April of 2019 the organization had just pooched the 2018 draft, having taken Zadina 6th overall, they had nothing in terms of young highend prospects and they had an older roster.

The building process is going to take a long time if you're not building with first overall picks and a plethora of quality draft picks. Seems to be a lot of folks on here expecting way too much in such a short amount of time. Five years for Yzerman is not a long time in terms of NHL years. He hasn't had the luxury of drafting a generational player.

How long did it take Washington to win a cup after drafting OV 1st overall and Backstrom 4th overall? It took 12 years!! Edmonton had, what, five first overall picks since 2010 and they just made a cup final. It's 2024.

Florida drafted Barkov and Ekblad twelve years before they won the cup this year. Landeskog was taken 2nd overall in 2011 and MacKinnon was taken 1st overall in 2013, they finally won a cup nine years after MacKinnon was drafted and he's an upper-echelon player. It takes a long time even with top three picks, which Yzerman hasn't had.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Today @ 3:51 PM ET
Just my opinion, but the Wings and Yzerman are still very much in a building mode. When Yzerman took over in late April of 2019 the organization had just pooched the 2018 draft, having taken Zadina 6th overall, they had nothing in terms of young highend prospects and they had an older roster.

The building process is going to take a long time if you're not building with first overall picks and a plethora of quality draft picks. Seems to be a lot of folks on here expecting way too much in such a short amount of time. Five years for Yzerman is not a long time in terms of NHL years. He hasn't had the luxury of drafting a generational player.

How long did it take Washington to win a cup after drafting OV 1st overall and Backstrom 4th overall? It took 12 years!! Edmonton had, what, five first overall picks since 2010 and they just made a cup final. It's 2024.

Florida drafted Barkov and Ekblad twelve years before they won the cup this year. Landeskog was taken 2nd overall in 2011 and MacKinnon was taken 1st overall in 2013, they finally won a cup nine years after MacKinnon was drafted and he's an upper-echelon player. It takes a long time even with top three picks, which Yzerman hasn't had.

- DraftandDestroy


Yzerman SHOULD be judged on his draft record regardless and outside of the first round its been horrible. Thats partially why the rebuild has taken so long.
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Today @ 4:09 PM ET
“Jack Campbell has entered the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistant Program and will be away from the #redwings for an indefinite period of time.

Wishing him the best.”
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Today @ 4:26 PM ET
“Jack Campbell has entered the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistant Program and will be away from the #redwings for an indefinite period of time.

Wishing him the best.”

- DraftandDestroy

Campbell seems that he could not stand up to all the media, fan and team scrutiny in the past few years. I hope he gets it together ad can resume his career. Prayers fo him and his family.
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Today @ 4:30 PM ET
“Jack Campbell has entered the NHL/NHLPA Player Assistant Program and will be away from the #redwings for an indefinite period of time.

Wishing him the best.”

- DraftandDestroy
Wings still have 3 goalies to compete for the crease in GR, and possibly another from DRW, (LYON?), so it does not put them in a bind.
DraftandDestroy
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 11.15.2016

Today @ 4:36 PM ET
Yzerman SHOULD be judged on his draft record regardless and outside of the first round its been horrible. Thats partially why the rebuild has taken so long.
- wingz4life

Has it though? Has enough time passed to truly judge those kids yet? The GM is rarely the guy who's taking guys mid to late rounds in the draft, he is however the guy responsible for the group that does make those picks.

The 2019 draft was Yzerman's first draft, he was hired a month before it, roughly, obviously the Wings staff had a list before he got there. Taking Seider with the 6th overall pick was a homerun though. Franchise player.

Looking at 2020, Wallinder is an excellent prospect in my opinion, kid just turned 22 and he's a 6'4" mobile defenseman. His skating is tremendous, but big defensemen need time which the Wings have ALWAYS been about. Looking beyond Niederbach and Hanas, who's made a huge impact at the NHL level from that draft? No one, that's who. Those two are still developing.

2021 - Edvinsson looks like a great pick, another big, smooth-skating defenseman with outstanding puck handling ability, Cossa is a huge goaltender who's still delevoping, they always take more time. Looking into the second round Buium is another big defenseman who's still developing. Clearly they are targeting building a defense, which takes time. Again, look at the draft, no one has made an impact at the NHL level from that draft in the third round or beyond.

Kids from the 2022 and 2023 draft are still developing, just look at hockeydb, there's a lot of zero's from the second round and beyond on both of those. Too early to judge.
HenryHockey
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Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Today @ 5:28 PM ET
Has it though? Has enough time passed to truly judge those kids yet? The GM is rarely the guy who's taking guys mid to late rounds in the draft, he is however the guy responsible for the group that does make those picks.

The 2019 draft was Yzerman's first draft, he was hired a month before it, roughly, obviously the Wings staff had a list before he got there. Taking Seider with the 6th overall pick was a homerun though. Franchise player.

Looking at 2020, Wallinder is an excellent prospect in my opinion, kid just turned 22 and he's a 6'4" mobile defenseman. His skating is tremendous, but big defensemen need time which the Wings have ALWAYS been about. Looking beyond Niederbach and Hanas, who's made a huge impact at the NHL level from that draft? No one, that's who. Those two are still developing.

2021 - Edvinsson looks like a great pick, another big, smooth-skating defenseman with outstanding puck handling ability, Cossa is a huge goaltender who's still delevoping, they always take more time. Looking into the second round Buium is another big defenseman who's still developing. Clearly they are targeting building a defense, which takes time. Again, look at the draft, no one has made an impact at the NHL level from that draft in the third round or beyond.

Kids from the 2022 and 2023 draft are still developing, just look at hockeydb, there's a lot of zero's from the second round and beyond on both of those. Too early to judge.

- DraftandDestroy
All good points, but the position I see that is very weak, other than Seider, is the RD spot. Only ASP has promise, and nobody is talking about Tuomisto. But what I seen of Tuomisto in the preseason, he does not stand out either good or bad. Sometimes not being noticeable on D is a good thing, though.
HenryHockey
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Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Today @ 5:38 PM ET
Tonight's lineup:

https://x.com/m_bultman/status/1842307837462212759
NC_Scott
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Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 03.01.2022

Today @ 6:01 PM ET
Yzerman had some absolute steals in Brayden Point and kutcherov. Unfortunately for us, we haven’t had 2nd rounders that absolutely should have been top 5 first rounder picks. Without those two guys, I doubt Tampa wins a single cup.