Eklund
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;) Joined: 08.30.2006
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what's going the other way to Chicago? |
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HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Nashville Joined: 09.10.2021
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Since Seth was born in Texas he won't need time to adapt. He probably remembers the playgrounds from his childhood, the Chuck E Cheese, etc...Seems like a perfect fit for Dallas. Only $9.5M for 3 more years after this. I'm sure Chicago will use their last retention spot for this and maybe eat like 50% of that. |
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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: long beach, CA Joined: 01.29.2014
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This actually makes sense. |
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dozerD10
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: long beach, CA Joined: 01.29.2014
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what's going the other way to Chicago? - dmnted
Their 2nd in 26 if Hawks retain like 40% ... probably... or their 26 - 3rd if Hawks retain less than 20%
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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Since Seth was born in Texas he won't need time to adapt. He probably remembers the playgrounds from his childhood, the Chuck E Cheese, etc...Seems like a perfect fit for Dallas. Only $9.5M for 3 more years after this. I'm sure Chicago will use their last retention spot for this and maybe eat like 50% of that. - HockeyBuzzed
Jones has five years left on his contract after this year. |
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HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Nashville Joined: 09.10.2021
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Jones has five years left on his contract after this year. - Chunk
You are correct. Was using PuckPedia who changed the format and only scrolls for the 3 years. But still, I'm sure Chicago will retain for 5 years. Why not right?
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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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You are correct. Was using PuckPedia who changed the format and only scrolls for the 3 years. But still, I'm sure Chicago will retain for 5 years. Why not right? - HockeyBuzzed
I don't get this narrative. Why would CHI retain 50% for 5 years? He's a good skating offensive RHD who can play a ton of minutes, produce points, and is average defensively.
Not to mention, the Hawks have absolutely no pressure to trade him. They almost need his cap hit at the moment. He's not requested a trade, and the Hawks don't currently have anyone ready to take over for him on the right side. Murphy is often injured, Levshunov is not ready, and Rinzel will likely only get a few games at the end of this year depending on how far MN goes in the tournament and if he signs his contract. |
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I am not sure the HAWKS want to retain for 5 years .When I feel Seth will age well ,and could be beneficial to the young Hawks coming out of the rebuild . If they do deal no more then 3 mill retained , Hawks get Stankoven and 2nd or 3rd |
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HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Nashville Joined: 09.10.2021
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I am not sure the HAWKS want to retain for 5 years .When I feel Seth will age well ,and could be beneficial to the young Hawks coming out of the rebuild . If they do deal no more then 3 mill and retained , Hawks get Stankoven and 2nd or 3rd - oldduffman
It's an E4 so multiple sources with direct connections have confirmed talks are happening.
Also, Seth was born in Texas.
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It's an E4 so multiple sources with direct connections have confirmed talks are happening.
Also, Seth was born in Texas. - HockeyBuzzed
I don't care if he was born on Mars ,as Chuck said Hawks have not got a gun too their head to trade him . |
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Tatoo
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Montreal, QC Joined: 12.17.2016
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We need a player,a rookie and a draft choice for 2 and a half retained and Seth Jones. |
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coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Louisville, CO Joined: 03.15.2007
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We need a player,a rookie and a draft choice for 2 and a half retained and Seth Jones. - Tatoo
It feels like retaining any significant salary would be off the table as the Hawks should be building a great team around Bedard. Like what does it say to him if they're chewing up almost $5 million in cap for nothing the next 5 years. It says to me that they have no need to spend to the cap. Once a team gets competitive, they are going to very likely be at the ceiling.
I seriously hope the Hawks are in a position to be VERY competitive well before 5 years and we're seeing Bedard and company competing for the conference and Cup. And I'm not even a fan of the team. Just a player like that shouldn't be on a struggling team for so long. I mean, at least McJesus has the appearance that the team could win something. |
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How about Soucy? - VanHockeyGuy
Ugh. Isn’t it Saucy? Evolving Hockey has him rated the worst defenseman in the league in goals above replacement (-9.4). His penalty killing has fallen off a cliff. His cap hit is way out of whack with his level of play. Even when his no trade expires after this season he’s a tough sell. Good luck. |
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HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Nashville Joined: 09.10.2021
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Ugh. Isn’t it Saucy? Evolving Hockey has him rated the worst defenseman in the league in goals above replacement (-9.4). His penalty killing has fallen off a cliff. His cap hit is way out of whack with his level of play. Even when his no trade expires after this season he’s a tough sell. Good luck. - Minnyhock
According to Ek, Washington is an E4 for Saucy. Florida, Carolina, and Calgary could all sneak in and grab him. His cap hit is only $1.6M.
I found Carolina an interesting choice. They have run the same 6 guys all year. Advanced stats show all 3 pairs are very solid. Team is 7th in goals against even after losing their #1 goalie for most of the year. So why are they targeting Saucy???
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You never get the impression that Seth was enthusiastic to be on the Hawks (or the (Jackets). I think he is a decent defender that is slightly overpaid. But if he ever played with passion, maybe he could be really good. Playing with a contending team might be a good thing for him.
If I am the Hawks I do not eat too much salary. Of course the other asset(s) you get play big part in how much salary you eat. |
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jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Makes too much sense not to pass on making this deal and that goes for both Chicago and Dallas
The timing to move Jones is somewhat premature for Chicago since some young dmen have not ripened yet ( but appear promising, including Leveshunov).
It is a pro/con argument with not a clear better answer either way whether Chicago receives proper eg. good enough renumeration should Davidson, the GM, choose now or even two years before moving Jones (three year contract remains).
Chicago would use its last contract retention by moving Jones. They would surely pick up a healthy amount of the contract. I would not expect a great but perhaps a descent return. It would be a real plus for Chicago if a Donato and or Mrzak, even Smith could also go in the same trade but receiving a first round pick is expecting too much - even a late first anyway.
Nonetheless Davidson would be making a prudent move to ship the Jones contract out NOW rather than later. Jones contract is hefty to say the least.
And as for their young defense, although Korchinski has shown good improvement this year.......I do think that Davidson would trade him in a heartbeat for a ready or near ready top offensive forward
Personally I love Korchinski 's strengths and would not trade him. The team will gain at minimum one top forward from their '25 #1 selection. Now if you can dream without being too crazy, moving their second #1 '25 in exchange (package deal) for a top four pick is the way to go. Last draft Davidson was willing to trade a '25 #1 insofar as to get the pick and snag Demidov. So he might be looking at this angle again; however, it is extremely difficult and usually unlikely for a top tier round one choice to be extracted.
Of course both Martone and Misa would add a lot to the current cast featuring Bedard
Rinzell is a future top four dman who Chicago will not trade. So you have two projected top four dmen prospects if you live the dream of prospects as your way to build. Therfore reasoning is that because of Rinzell, Korchinski might be available for the right price
I am considering contacting Ekund to be the Chicago hockeybuzz writer. If I get the gig, I do not want to be particularly expounding and breaking down the way the team's roster may evolve. There is a deep number of bloggers who make the Chicago site one of largest respondents among the league's teams. I want to set the table - so to speak- and the board will keep the site perculating |
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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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Jones has five years left on his contract after this year. - Chunk
Shhhhhhh.🤫 |
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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL Joined: 11.06.2015
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Makes too much sense not to pass on making this deal and that goes for both Chicago and Dallas
The timing to move Jones is somewhat premature for Chicago since some young dmen have not ripened yet ( but appear promising, including Leveshunov).
It is a pro/con argument with not a clear better answer either way whether Chicago receives proper eg. good enough renumeration should Davidson, the GM, choose now or even two years before moving Jones (three year contract remains).
Chicago would use its last contract retention by moving Jones. They would surely pick up a healthy amount of the contract. I would not expect a great but perhaps a descent return. It would be a real plus for Chicago if a Donato and or Mrzak, even Smith could also go in the same trade but receiving a first round pick is expecting too much - even a late first anyway.
Nonetheless Davidson would be making a prudent move to ship the Jones contract out NOW rather than later. Jones contract is hefty to say the least.
And as for their young defense, although Korchinski has shown good improvement this year.......I do think that Davidson would trade him in a heartbeat for a ready or near ready top offensive forward
Personally I love Korchinski 's strengths and would not trade him. The team will gain at minimum one top forward from their '25 #1 selection. Now if you can dream without being too crazy, moving their second #1 '25 in exchange (package deal) for a top four pick is the way to go. Last draft Davidson was willing to trade a '25 #1 insofar as to get the pick and snag Demidov. So he might be looking at this angle again; however, it is extremely difficult and usually unlikely for a top tier round one choice to be extracted.
Of course both Martone and Misa would add a lot to the current cast featuring Bedard
Rinzell is a future top four dman who Chicago will not trade. So you have two projected toop four dmen prospects if you live the dream of prospects as your way to build. Therfore readoning is that because of Rinzell Korchinski might be available for the right price
I am considering contacting Ekund to be the Chicago hockeybuzz writer. If I get the gig, I do not want to be particularly expounding and breaking down the way the team's roster may evolve. There is a deep number of bloggers who make the Chicago site one of largest respondents among the league's teams. I want to set the table - so to speak- and the board will keep the site perculating - jhawk59
Despite HawkintheD's best efforts.... he still has five years left on his contract.
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IBleedBlu1
Season Ticket Holder St Louis Blues |
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Location: St Louis, MO Joined: 06.10.2014
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jhawk59
Season Ticket Holder Chicago Blackhawks |
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Joined: 02.15.2013
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Hockeybuzed post near beginning of comments said that Jones had $9.5 mill due over next three years.
That is where I formed my interpretation of the term remainder in Jones' contract.
I have no clue what the best return could be for Jones. The timing of the trade could become more significant if either Dallas or Chicago has new injuries before the trade deadline final day. For example if a veteran forward becomes Injured would Donato become desirable to Nill (Dallas).or another team? What is the liklihood Nill would ask for Korchinski, too, and Chicago wants maybe Stankoven instead of a draft choice
Who likes/wants Stankoven i ask Haek in the D and Chunk? Of course ANY tradeable Chicago players could be filled by injury. So various trade outcomes do exist |
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TheFreak
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Duncan, BC Joined: 12.06.2019
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Makes too much sense not to pass on making this deal and that goes for both Chicago and Dallas
The timing to move Jones is somewhat premature for Chicago since some young dmen have not ripened yet ( but appear promising, including Leveshunov).
It is a pro/con argument with not a clear better answer either way whether Chicago receives proper eg. good enough renumeration should Davidson, the GM, choose now or even two years before moving Jones (three year contract remains).
Chicago would use its last contract retention by moving Jones. They would surely pick up a healthy amount of the contract. I would not expect a great but perhaps a descent return. It would be a real plus for Chicago if a Donato and or Mrzak, even Smith could also go in the same trade but receiving a first round pick is expecting too much - even a late first anyway.
Nonetheless Davidson would be making a prudent move to ship the Jones contract out NOW rather than later. Jones contract is hefty to say the least.
And as for their young defense, although Korchinski has shown good improvement this year.......I do think that Davidson would trade him in a heartbeat for a ready or near ready top offensive forward
Personally I love Korchinski 's strengths and would not trade him. The team will gain at minimum one top forward from their '25 #1 selection. Now if you can dream without being too crazy, moving their second #1 '25 in exchange (package deal) for a top four pick is the way to go. Last draft Davidson was willing to trade a '25 #1 insofar as to get the pick and snag Demidov. So he might be looking at this angle again; however, it is extremely difficult and usually unlikely for a top tier round one choice to be extracted.
Of course both Martone and Misa would add a lot to the current cast featuring Bedard
Rinzell is a future top four dman who Chicago will not trade. So you have two projected top four dmen prospects if you live the dream of prospects as your way to build. Therfore reasoning is that because of Rinzell, Korchinski might be available for the right price
I am considering contacting Ekund to be the Chicago hockeybuzz writer. If I get the gig, I do not want to be particularly expounding and breaking down the way the team's roster may evolve. There is a deep number of bloggers who make the Chicago site one of largest respondents among the league's teams. I want to set the table - so to speak- and the board will keep the site perculating - jhawk59
Seth Jones is signed to a 8 year, $76,000,000 contract with a cap hit of $9,500,000 per season, currently playing for the Chicago Blackhawks. His contract was signed on July 23, 2021, and expires at the end of the 2029-30 season, when Jones will be 35 years old.
5 years left
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coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Louisville, CO Joined: 03.15.2007
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Seth Jones is signed to a 8 year, $76,000,000 contract with a cap hit of $9,500,000 per season, currently playing for the Chicago Blackhawks. His contract was signed on July 23, 2021, and expires at the end of the 2029-30 season, when Jones will be 35 years old.
5 years left - TheFreak
Yep. And $9.5 million won't seem like much with the salary cap moving up and up. JakeO is getting a bump next year but they also lose salaries like Granlund, etc. My wildest guess is Chicago eats $3 million max but that would only be if they get alot in return.
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HockeyBuzzed
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Nashville Joined: 09.10.2021
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FYI, I already explained it's a 5 year contract. I guess the sarcasm font isn't working here. Chicago is not going to retain significant money for 5 years. It's a struggle to even reach the cap floor without having to overpay for junk like Taylor Hall, Athansiou, Mikheyev, etc...Seth Jones helps reach the cap floor. He can mentor and shield their young d-men. If they trade him, they can do so later when the cap is easier to absorb. This isn't happening. |
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