Mike Augello: Mac Moving Out; Leafs vs Islanders Part Deux

Trade Wilson. The rest will fall into place.

Meh, Carter is of little use to us when he's injured. 10 years left on that horrid contract too...

The club is fine as is, a first line center would be nice but what they REALLY need is Orr back in the lineup.

Meh, Carter is of little use to use when he's injured. 10 years left on that horrid contract too...
- p_zub

I wouldn't lose any sleep if MacArthur, Grabosvski and one of our dmen were moved. I don't see Mac and Grabs in TO for the long term and the glut of defenseman is great to have at the beginning of the year or if we were expecting a long playoff drive.


And don't trade for Carter

Burke made it pretty clear he didn't agree with signing players to those long contracts that purposely circumvent the cap. I don't recall him ever saying anything about not trading for a player with an existing one.

macarthur can be moved in a heartbeat.
whether that means securing kadri's place in the line-up, lombardis resurgence, bringing armstrong back into action, bringing up frattin or a combination of any these variables, the point is that macarthur is absolutely replaceable.

Carter's garbage.

Terrible contract
Terribly injury prone
Not the type of centre the Leafs need. He's a scorer, they need a play maker

Spend the extra draft pick or prospect and get Getzlaf.

My interest level in Carter = 4/10

There are only FIVE teams in the Eastern Conference with a positive goals for/against differential.


And the leafs are one of them.

Spooky.

Carter's garbage.

Terrible contract
Terribly injury prone
Not the type of centre the Leafs need. He's a scorer, they need a play maker

Spend the extra draft pick or prospect and get Getzlaf.

My interest level in Carter = 4/10
- Juice

agreed. id honestly only take him if it was a salary dump of some sort on columbus' part, like carter for komi and a pick, but based on what they gave up for him that aint happenin

The club is fine as is, a first line center would be nice but what they REALLY need is Orr back in the lineup.
- leafer89

Yeah, the club is no where near fine as it is.

Realized this to it's fullest yesterday in talks with Huddle...the current squad when compared to previous "almost successful" leafs teams is lacking:

No gritty, do whatever it takes, fight, cause havoc, 20+ goal scorer like Tucker
No lead by example, grind, fight, score 25+ goals player like Roberts
No #1 centre like Sudin
No #1 goalie that you can consistently rely on.

This team is the furthest thing from "fine as it is". And that's when comparing it to a squad that still was unable to win anything.

Carter's garbage.

Terrible contract
Terribly injury prone
Not the type of centre the Leafs need. He's a scorer, they need a play maker

Spend the extra draft pick or prospect and get Getzlaf.

My interest level in Carter = 4/10
- Juice

lets not get too carried away.....
but I am with you, no need dumping our stockpile of prospects for him.

agreed. id honestly only take him if it was a salary dump of some sort on columbus' part, like carter for komi and a pick, but based on what they gave up for him that aint happenin
- MetroidPrime

For sure...they'd never do that deal but I agree that I'm not willing to give up much for him...no interest.

Yeah, the club is no where near fine as it is.

Realized this to it's fullest yesterday in talks with Huddle...the current squad when compared to previous almost "successful" leafs teams is lacking:

No gritty, do whatever it takes, fight, cause havoc, 20+ goal scorer like Tucker
No lead by example, grind, fight, score 25+ goals player like Roberts
No #1 centre like Sudin
No #1 goalie that you can consistently rely on.

This team is the furthest thing from "fine as it is". And that's when comparing it to a squad that still was unable to win anything.
- Juice

There you go again with your "logic" and "facts"

The club is fine as is, a first line center would be nice but what they REALLY need is Orr back in the lineup.
- leafer89

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and take that to be a joke. Good one.

lets not get too carried away.....
but I am with you, no need dumping our stockpile of prospects for him.
- Barx

Too carried away with what though?

It's a terrible contract for a player that would cost the leafs a lot to trade for and he's not the #1 centre they need.

Just doesn't make sense for him to be in Toronto...or at least to me it doesn't.

Yeah, the club is no where near fine as it is.

Realized this to it's fullest yesterday in talks with Huddle...the current squad when compared to previous "almost successful" leafs teams is lacking:

No gritty, do whatever it takes, fight, cause havoc, 20+ goal scorer like Tucker
No lead by example, grind, fight, score 25+ goals player like Roberts
No #1 centre like Sudin
No #1 goalie that you can consistently rely on.

This team is the furthest thing from "fine as it is". And that's when comparing it to a squad that still was unable to win anything.
- Juice

Although I don't think we would need to follow this specifc formula for success I do agree that there is work that needs to be done.

Way to go ref...you f'd up the page.

There you go again with your "logic" and "facts"

- clarkysduster

Sorry, sorry....I know, I know...I try not to, but it just comes out.

agreed. id honestly only take him if it was a salary dump of some sort on columbus' part, like carter for komi and a pick, but based on what they gave up for him that aint happenin
- MetroidPrime

*inserts sarcasm emoticon*

Yeah, the club is no where near fine as it is.

Realized this to it's fullest yesterday in talks with Huddle...the current squad when compared to previous "almost successful" leafs teams is lacking:

No gritty, do whatever it takes, fight, cause havoc, 20+ goal scorer like Tucker
No lead by example, grind, fight, score 25+ goals player like Roberts
No #1 centre like Sudin
No #1 goalie that you can consistently rely on.

This team is the furthest thing from "fine as it is". And that's when comparing it to a squad that still was unable to win anything.
- Juice

I hate being a Leafs fan.

agreed. id honestly only take him if it was a salary dump of some sort on columbus' part, like carter for komi and a pick, but based on what they gave up for him that aint happenin
- MetroidPrime

Sup Cambridge-ite?

Although I don't think we would need to follow this specifc formula for success I do agree that there is work that needs to be done.
- bcoop

For sure.
Was just my way of trying to put things in perspective.

There's just nobody on this team that I can see stepping to another level in the playoffs and become a "force" in all areas of the game. Anybody you could say is a stretch for sure.

I hate being a Leafs fan.
- Brian Huddle

It was our conversation that put things in that perspective.

I already knew the team had a lot of work to do...but when we started reminiscing about previous squads and the tools they had...man, it was like a b*tch slap of reality that not only are they not close, they can barely see the door with the title "success" above it.