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Joined: 01.22.2009

Mar 7 @ 4:25 PM ET
The Fan Blog: Venting on Voracek Hit-John Gilbert
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Mar 7 @ 4:31 PM ET
The Fan Blog: Venting on Voracek Hit-John Gilbert
- the_fan_blog


based on previous hits like this where there was no hearing or suspensions the league called it correctly if your looking for consistency

not saying i agree with it, but there have been numerous occasions this season where there has been a hit to the head and nothing called, especially when that player had his head down and wasnt prepared for the hit

voracek put himself into that position, and he paid the price, it was a big hit and it wasnt with the elbow, it was shoulder and the intent wasnt to injure or go for the head

kind of like the myers on zubrus hit earlier this season
khanlari
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 7 @ 4:31 PM ET
i didnt read the article, but he looked up, look back down and ran into a wall. clean kronwall hit. voracek should research the opposition before the game. he needs one hit to learn his lesson. he's young, now he'll play smarter
Peca27
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NC
Joined: 09.16.2005

Mar 7 @ 4:35 PM ET
I think the major issue should be why was the game not stopped. I hate the Flyers with all my heart but the whistle should have blown right after the hit and the guy's arms lifted in the air. No need for medicial staff to be delayed or to continue play that might put the player in more danger than he already was.

Hard hit - not illegal - stupid officiating.
pharcyde
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Mar 7 @ 4:38 PM ET
I thought the point of a check is to separate the player from the puck, not his head from his body..
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 7 @ 4:39 PM ET
Clean.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Mar 7 @ 4:42 PM ET
Sometimes clean and devastating hits happen. Michael Sauer, Rangers defenseman, got absolutely hammered by a hard but clean Dion Phaneuf check earlier in the season. He is concussed still and there is no timetable as to when he will return but the hit that caused him to be out long term was textbook.


Nik Kronwall has a reputation as being probably the best open ice hitting defenseman in the league today. The hit, like the one he caught Voracek with, has a nickname as I am sure you are aware of.

The end result is the same as say a dirty head shot, a la vintage Matt Cooke, but this is a physical sport and clean hits do have similar results to dirty ones.

Hopefully Voracek isn't too injured, because injuries should never have an allegiance, despite my pure dislike for the team he plays for. And I am not condoning this Kronwall check because he delivered it to a Flyer.

This is purely about the sport I have been watching since my 11th year on this earth and the fear that what makes this sport so unique, the perfect blend of physicality and high end skill, will soon just become a flag sport.

Stop scrutinizing every hit, especially when they are clean.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 7 @ 4:43 PM ET
Clean.
- keatondixon


Voracek himself said the hit was clean, but who is he to have an opinion on it when it disagrees with those that know better.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Mar 7 @ 4:43 PM ET
Just because Voracek is drooling on himself doesn't mean it wasn't a clean hit. Injuries do not equal suspensions. Rhetoric like this will eventually lead hockey into a non-contact sport.
BaldRich
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kutztown, PA
Joined: 12.16.2011

Mar 7 @ 4:47 PM ET
I think the major issue should be why was the game not stopped. I hate the Flyers with all my heart but the whistle should have blown right after the hit and the guy's arms lifted in the air. No need for medicial staff to be delayed or to continue play that might put the player in more danger than he already was.

Hard hit - not illegal - stupid officiating.

- Peca27


Perfectly said. Whistle should have blown right away.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 7 @ 4:52 PM ET
I think the question that needs to be asked is who are you? Clean hit, and if we are going by the definition of the rule, still a clean hit so there is no argument.

This blog reinforces the percieved whiny "NHL against the Flyers" stigma that we fans carry around. Thanks.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 7 @ 4:54 PM ET
Campbell hit was better
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 4:55 PM ET
Voracek himself said the hit was clean, but who is he to have an opinion on it when it disagrees with those that know better.
- MBFlyerfan

voracek just suffered brain damage not a good opinion
pharcyde
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Mar 7 @ 4:56 PM ET
Voracek himself said the hit was clean, but who is he to have an opinion on it when it disagrees with those that know better.
- MBFlyerfan

Is he supposed to call for his head on a plate? He did the classy thing. Yes Voracek is partially to blame here for having his head down and putting himself in that position but so is Kronwall for launching himself into a vulnerable player's head.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 4:56 PM ET
Campbell hit was better
- theblueandgold

this was even better

theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 7 @ 4:57 PM ET
this was even better


- 2Real


This thread is about clean hits, that was a precursor to Cooke on Savard
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 7 @ 4:58 PM ET
Is he supposed to call for his head on a plate? He did the classy thing. Yes Voracek is partially to blame here for having his head down and putting himself in that position but so is Kronwall for launching himself into a vulnerable player's head.
- pharcyde

Wasn't a head shot and didn't launch into him...
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
This thread is about clean hits, that was a precursor to Cooke on Savard
- theblueandgold

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...on_drury_legal_but_n.html
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 7 @ 5:01 PM ET
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/hnic/coachscorner/2007/02/neils_hit_on_drury_legal_but_n.html
- 2Real


Its been over 30 years since Cherry said anything intelligent.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 5:03 PM ET
Its been over 30 years since Cherry said anything intelligent.
- theblueandgold

sounds like you're just butthurt over the legal hit
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 5:05 PM ET
The Fan Blog: Venting on Voracek Hit-John Gilbert
- the_fan_blog


Voracek turned to face center ice a split second before contact was made. That is the reason the hit was a legal on. Had Voracek not turned prior to the contact, Kronwall hits him shoulder to shoulder

Under Rule 48, leeway is given when a player puts himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously at the point of contact. Therefore, the fact that the head was the primary point of contact is mitigated. Kronwall was committed to the hit when Voracek turned.

In addition to Voracek saying it was a clean hit, several of Voracek's teammates said the same, as did his GM Paul Holmgren. Fortunately, Voracek seems to be doing well afterward, with no reported concussion symptoms and some stitches and swelling in his lip.
pharcyde
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Mar 7 @ 5:06 PM ET
Wasn't a head shot and didn't launch into him...
- keatondixon

Didn't say it was a "head shot" ... and he definitely backed off.. sized him up.. took three strides and launched his back/shoulder right into his face.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
Didn't say it was a "head shot" ... and he definitely backed off.. sized him up.. took three strides and launched his back/shoulder right into his face.
- pharcyde

some people like to ignore this fact
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
sounds like you're just butthurt over the legal hit
- 2Real


I'm completely butthurt that the NHL included Neil's hit on Drury along with Cooke's hit on Savard as an example for rule 48.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 5:07 PM ET
I think the major issue should be why was the game not stopped. I hate the Flyers with all my heart but the whistle should have blown right after the hit and the guy's arms lifted in the air. No need for medicial staff to be delayed or to continue play that might put the player in more danger than he already was.

Hard hit - not illegal - stupid officiating.

- Peca27


That's my biggest problem with the hit. Play should have been immediately stopped. It was obvious Voracek was in trouble as soon as the hit was made.

The refs in last nights game were very inconsistent, besides the lack of a whistle for an injured player.
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