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Eklund
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Sep 2 @ 8:58 AM ET
Eklund: NHL Exec: "The Gauthier/McGroarty Effect" is Real
oyvay105
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hainesport, NJ
Joined: 01.30.2012

Sep 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
why am I seeing AD's everywhere! I am a season ticket holder
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rented to Bruce Banner ;)
Joined: 08.30.2006

Sep 2 @ 9:57 AM ET
why am I seeing AD's everywhere! I am a season ticket holder
- oyvay105

you need to re-up for the upcoming season.
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 10:03 AM ET
NCAA doesn't allow athletes to sign contracts. That's why NCAA players, many of whom are Americans, appear more likely than other entry draft leagues to dictate where they will play.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 2 @ 10:11 AM ET
It's America..most kids are entitled little wieners.lol. We are surprised by this!?

I mean..they are playing for " Team USA" at 15 -18 years old in the USHL
pleccese
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hartford, CT
Joined: 07.26.2006

Sep 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
If this is at USNTDP related, you could also go back to when JVR was drafted by the Flyers and refused to listen to what GM Paul Holmgren was requesting in terms of coming to camp. He opted to stay in college for another year if memory serves. I don't think their relationship was ever the same after that.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 2 @ 11:10 AM ET
It’s unfortunate the system is stacked in the favor of ncaa kids. The chl agreement is so bad and this is just another part of that. Junior players should also be eligible to be ufas by the time they are 22-23 years old. Teams had 4 years to negotiate and sell themselves to a player. That’s plenty.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
NCAA doesn't allow athletes to sign contracts. That's why NCAA players, many of whom are Americans, appear more likely than other entry draft leagues to dictate where they will play.
- jfkst1

It’s weird how adults think they should have a say in where and who they play for.

The nerve!
jfkst1
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Clackety Clack
Joined: 02.09.2015

Sep 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
It’s weird how adults think they should have a say in where and who they play for.

The nerve!

- Atomic Wedgie


It's weird that draft eligibility isn't based on any deliberate consent by the player. The NHLPA should definitely be building that standard into their contract, but consistent with most unions they largely exist to aid the veterans at the expense of the newcomers.
HappyBirdSeeds
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.28.2021

Sep 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
Ek, was the NHL Exec you quoted named Garph?
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Sep 2 @ 2:04 PM ET
It's America..most kids are entitled little wieners.lol. We are surprised by this!?

I mean..they are playing for " Team USA" at 15 -18 years old in the USHL

- rrentz


These "kids" are 18 and adult. They can vote and die in our military. The risk analysis of some of these adults might not appeal to all, but these adults are exercising what little leverage they have to control their landing spot. Some clubs benefit (i.e., NYR with Vesey and Fox) and some don't. Those are the breaks.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 2 @ 2:10 PM ET
These "kids" are 18 and adult. They can vote and die in our military. The risk analysis of some of these adults might not appeal to all, but these adults are exercising what little leverage they have to control their landing spot. Some clubs benefit (i.e., NYR with Vesey and Fox) and some don't. Those are the breaks.
- Only_A_Ladd


True..But some times these "kids" overvalue their importance as pre NHL rookies and forget that they have to earn it. Cutter Gauthier was butt hurt because Philly didn't fly him out and roll out the red carpet. I think that type of poop is unacceptable..That's all..
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:13 PM ET
True..But some times these "kids" overvalue their importance as pre NHL rookies and forget that they have to earn it. Cutter Gauthier was butt hurt because Philly didn't fly him out and roll out the red carpet. I think that type of poop is unacceptable..That's all..
- rrentz


Not wanting to live or play in Philly is just pure common sense.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Sep 2 @ 2:33 PM ET
Not wanting to live or play in Philly is just pure common sense.
- ChrisMS



Great point!
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 2:46 PM ET
Great point!
- rrentz

And wanting to live California does?

Niners first round pick found out what the California experience is.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 2 @ 2:50 PM ET
And wanting to live California does?

Niners first round pick found out what the California experience is.

- WhiskeyMan


The same as living in Philly?
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Sep 2 @ 3:35 PM ET
Go Play where you are drafted and STFU
Vanillaface
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.25.2013

Sep 2 @ 3:52 PM ET
College players are the new russians. Oilers have been good at staying clear from them at the draft until they picked Holloway and now regret it.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 4:21 PM ET
College players are the new russians. Oilers have been good at staying clear from them at the draft until they picked Holloway and now regret it.
- Vanillaface


Great point, if this crap continues, teams will start avoiding college players unless they are a garuntee super star.
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Sep 2 @ 4:39 PM ET
The same as living in Philly?
- ChrisMS


Yeah so I guess cutter mase a bad choice
duxcup07
Joined: 07.10.2007

Sep 2 @ 5:06 PM ET
Nah, Newport Beach ain't Frisco. Cutter chose wisely.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: TERRACE LANCO, CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Sep 2 @ 5:26 PM ET
Nah, Newport Beach ain't Frisco. Cutter chose wisely.
- duxcup07




He can live in total comfort, anonymity, and have a great life while playing with a great young team with outstanding ownership. He fell into a great situation.
Levit8
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Joined: 07.24.2015

Sep 2 @ 5:44 PM ET
The same as living in Philly?


Or Detroit, Chicago, LA, or any other poop hole city.

Don't know if still true, but hardly any Flyers players lived in the city, or even PA. Most lived in S. Jersey. The only reason they crossed the bridge was to play games or fly out on road trips.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 2 @ 7:10 PM ET
It’s weird how adults think they should have a say in where and who they play for.

The nerve!

- Atomic Wedgie


Thats the point of the NHL system. If Your prospects can now dictate where they play, it becomes incredibly difficult for bad teams or teams in less popular cities to get better. These prospects are going to all want to play on top teams in prefered locations. How is a team like Columbus going to get better if Prospects have the choice to play where ever they want? Many players dont want to be in Columbus
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Sep 2 @ 7:24 PM ET
Yeah so I guess cutter mase a bad choice
- WhiskeyMan


I agree. Should have come to the burgh. But cali is beautiful and he’ll have money to actually exist comfortably there.
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