Jeremy Laura: Red Wings give up 3 goal lead, but Kane gets OT win over Ducks

Playoff teams know how to play with the lead. This team needs a few better players to keep dominating the game right to the end. I don't think it will be worth the high cost to acquire a few pieces to that puzzle right now because this team will won't go very far. But then again, Washington barely made the playoffs last year and were a quick out. But just making it made them a playoff team and a destination. They capitalized (pun intended) and made some savvy moves in the off season and look at them now!!! Maybe it is time to buy!!!

Playoff teams know how to play with the lead. This team needs a few better players to keep dominating the game right to the end. I don't think it will be worth the high cost to acquire a few pieces to that puzzle right now because this team will won't go very far. But then again, Washington barely made the playoffs last year and were a quick out. But just making it made them a playoff team and a destination. They capitalized (pun intended) and made some savvy moves in the off season and look at them now!!! Maybe it is time to buy!!!
- HenryHockey

I don't think the roster moves made them any better than they were last season. The difference is the coach and the fact they were complete garbage that couldn't score with Uncle Fester proves it. McLelland is getting much more out of the same roster with a tougher schedule.

I don't think Yzerman is going to make any big moves for this season but upgrading Holl, Tarasenko and maybe a good 4th line center that can win faceoffs and solid at PK would be enough.

Find a way to convince Tarasenko to waive for Montreal and send Veleno or another 4th liner to the Habs for Evans and Armia. Then you have a PK unit right there who have more shorthanded goals than the entire Wings team combined.

Send Holl to the Preds for Schenn. Then maybe send Copp or Compher to the Blues for the other Schenn and make this team much tougher to play against.

I don't think the roster moves made them any better than they were last season. The difference is the coach and the fact they were complete garbage that couldn't score with Uncle Fester proves it. McLelland is getting much more out of the same roster with a tougher schedule.

I don't think Yzerman is going to make any big moves for this season but upgrading Holl, Tarasenko and maybe a good 4th line center that can win faceoffs and solid at PK would be enough.

Find a way to convince Tarasenko to waive for Montreal and send Veleno or another 4th liner to the Habs for Evans and Armia. Then you have a PK unit right there who have more shorthanded goals than the entire Wings team combined.

Send Holl to the Preds for Schenn. Then maybe send Copp or Compher to the Blues for the other Schenn and make this team much tougher to play against.
- dcz28

H2 has a valid point; SCPO teams can close. Right now, we can't. We all know this team has needs to be filled. Agree that being a SCPO team makes one a more viable destination, but any adds we'd make at the TDL still wouldn't make this year's version a SCF challenger. It is what it is.

Big thing is to posture this team to bring in a big name without sacrificing the talent pool....too much. That's going to be tricky.

TM is making these guys a better team, and players across the NHL see that. This team will improve and some of the kids are going to push hard to make the Big Club. Do I want to see us make the SCPO? Heck yeah. But being swept out won't do anything for us, really. Now, any team can make a deep run, but you & H2 articulate the status of the team well.

The remaining schedule is rated the toughest in the NHL (combined Winning % of remaining schedule is something like 59%...). If we can find a way to to schock team like we've done under TM, the season could be interesting. But we have to shut teams down when we have the lead.

I like the Schenn brothers, btw. Gritty dudes who'd crush Gudas.....that dude needs a suspension.....and Zegras made head contact BIG TIME 🤨🤨 I LOVE watching Kane, dude's pretty impressive AND he's found out how to poke-check!!!!

I don't think the roster moves made them any better than they were last season. The difference is the coach and the fact they were complete garbage that couldn't score with Uncle Fester proves it. McLelland is getting much more out of the same roster with a tougher schedule.

I don't think Yzerman is going to make any big moves for this season but upgrading Holl, Tarasenko and maybe a good 4th line center that can win faceoffs and solid at PK would be enough.

Find a way to convince Tarasenko to waive for Montreal and send Veleno or another 4th liner to the Habs for Evans and Armia. Then you have a PK unit right there who have more shorthanded goals than the entire Wings team combined.

Send Holl to the Preds for Schenn. Then maybe send Copp or Compher to the Blues for the other Schenn and make this team much tougher to play against.
- dcz28

Pie in the sky! And I did not have any comparisons to last year's team in my post. I am talking now and in the future. And how is Tarasenko going to waive for Montreal???? If anything he will go to FLA at half salary for FC's. The only thing Y would get him to go elsewhere is if he pulled a Chris Drury on him and waive him, and once he clears Y sez, "Waive your no-trade clause or play out your contract in GR."
But I do think that Y is not going to do much this TDL, Evans would cost too much, a RD would require a boatload of assets too. And getting a rental would be counterproductive to the rebuild.

Just took a look at the rest of Detroit's schedule... and I'm not optimistic they're going to make the playoffs. I'm just not convinced yet with so many other teams right there with them in terms of points / position. They have a shot yes... but it's going to be really tough. If they lose any players on the top two lines to injury they are toast.

On a more happy note... I was at the Griffins game and got a couple Simon Edvinsson bobble-heads for me and my son.

Side note... Griffins lost in OT to Iowa Wild. But it's good to see Lombardi and Mazur both back in the lineup and putting up points again. Both of these guys are already probably good enough to be on Detroit's 4th line. They will have an excellent shot of grabbing a spot in training camp next season. Time to continue the youth movement.

Pie in the sky! And I did not have any comparisons to last year's team in my post. I am talking now and in the future. And how is Tarasenko going to waive for Montreal???? If anything he will go to FLA at half salary for FC's. The only thing Y would get him to go elsewhere is if he pulled a Chris Drury on him and waive him, and once he clears Y sez, "Waive your no-trade clause or play out your contract in GR."
But I do think that Y is not going to do much this TDL, Evans would cost too much, a RD would require a boatload of assets too. And getting a rental would be counterproductive to the rebuild.
- HenryHockey

My point about last season was they tied the Caps for the last spot but lost out due to the tie breaker and that the coach has made a major improvement with the same roster.

I think Florida taking Tarasenko is a pipe dream even with 50% retention. They are 4th in the league for goals scored so that isn't an issue for them but are middle of the road in goals allowed. They need defense if anything and Tarasenko does nothing for that. I don't see any of the top team needing him or wanting him aside from maybe the Oilers but they would likely want the Wings to take Arvidsson back and that would be a pointless trade for the Wings. He's not having a good season so his options for teams to go to are very limited given he has another year on his contract. If he wants to move on, he will have to expand his list of teams he is willing to go to. The only other team i can think of is Ottawa since he did well there and liked playing there but they have no cap space and i don't see a player they could send back to make the money work that the Wings would want.

Wings aren't rebuilding anymore. That's over and has been over for over a year. Rebuilding teams don't draft in the bottom half of the 1st round. Wings have a lot of prospects and they won't have room for all of them even some that look decent and worth a contract. They can afford to move some mid prospects for rentals.

Just a quick update. Copp to IR, Dries recalled.

Thoughts on TDL. The odds of being able to outbid contending teams for a player seem long. Florida now has Tkachuk on LTIR and anyone want to guess when he’ll probably be back? So take his cap hit and apply that to what they can afford to add.

Before going the trade route this season (specifically this season) let’s see if a healthy Lombardi who is back in the lineup or even Danielson can perform at the NHL level. Give Tuomisto or Wallinder a game or two. We have the potential “summer glut” of players that the team will be looking to move to either Grand Rapids or up to the main roster with ASP and Augustine being intriguing names in that sense. The goal is to make the post season at this point. we’re still developing kids that are getting a lot of attention. I don’t think Copp or Holl are going to get any interest without coughing up a first round pick and even mid first round is valuable. We’ll see where they go with it but a callup (as long as you have the space) shouldn’t be out of the question. Opinion as always

Just a quick update. Copp to IR, Dries recalled.

Thoughts on TDL. The odds of being able to outbid contending teams for a player seem long. Florida now has Tkachuk on LTIR and anyone want to guess when he’ll probably be back? So take his cap hit and apply that to what they can afford to add.

Before going the trade route this season (specifically this season) let’s see if a healthy Lombardi who is back in the lineup or even Danielson can perform at the NHL level. Give Tuomisto or Wallinder a game or two. We have the potential “summer glut” of players that the team will be looking to move to either Grand Rapids or up to the main roster with ASP and Augustine being intriguing names in that sense. The goal is to make the post season at this point. we’re still developing kids that are getting a lot of attention. I don’t think Copp or Holl are going to get any interest without coughing up a first round pick and even mid first round is valuable. We’ll see where they go with it but a callup (as long as you have the space) shouldn’t be out of the question. Opinion as always
- Jeremy Laura

I guess with Matty on IR that FLA can go and get his brother to replace him till the playoffs. Then Matty and Brady on both sides of Bennett will body their way to another Lord Stanley's Cup! Edit: Even though it looks like Matty will be back in a month to 6 wks........
Holl and Copp ar unmovable. Just waive thm both and replace when you can. It looks that DOPeS will not look at the Zegras hit on Raz.
Schenn would be a good add on D, If Copp,s season is done, Brayden could also be a possibility. Both would give some much needed toughness to the Wings lineup.

Forgive me for being the eternal optimist, but what I'm seeing on here is the Wings need to make a move because they can't close out games. Is that true?

The Wings have won 16 of 23 since MacLellan took over, and during that time, they didn't blow a two-goal lead until the past two games. These came after a week off, and their best two forwards each played four playoff level games, playing against a team with the 6th overall best record, and a team who has won 4 in a row and 7 of their last 10. They still walked away with 3 points and increased their wildcard lead by a point. They have a better record than VAN, OTT, CBJ BOS and NYR, all of whom are post rebuild. They are within 3 games of LAK, COL, TBL, NJD and CAR, within 4 games of FLA and TOR. Not bad for a rebuilding team that only has six post-Yzerman drafted players on their roster, including none of their drafted netminders.

Just out:
Rasmussen Blindsided, Ducks' Zegras Faces Suspension For Head Shot

“When a player gets a hit to the head and doesn’t return, it is never a good sign,” Red Wings head coach Todd McLellan said afterwards. They're still awaiting news on the player's condition.

Forgive me for being the eternal optimist, but what I'm seeing on here is the Wings need to make a move because they can't close out games. Is that true?

The Wings have won 16 of 23 since MacLellan took over, and during that time, they didn't blow a two-goal lead until the past two games. These came after a week off, and their best two forwards each played four playoff level games, playing against a team with the 6th overall best record, and a team who has won 4 in a row and 7 of their last 10. They still walked away with 3 points and increased their wildcard lead by a point. They have a better record than VAN, OTT, CBJ BOS and NYR, all of whom are post rebuild. They are within 3 games of LAK, COL, TBL, NJD and CAR, within 4 games of FLA and TOR. Not bad for a rebuilding team that only has six post-Yzerman drafted players on their roster, including none of their drafted netminders.
- bluelineenforcer

Yes, and the Wings are still rebuilding! And it does not make much sense to give up assets for rentals but only players with term left on their contracts IF Y decides to buy.

I guess with Matty on IR that FLA can go and get his brother to replace him till the playoffs. Then Matty and Brady on both sides of Bennett will body their way to another Lord Stanley's Cup! Edit: Even though it looks like Matty will be back in a month to 6 wks........
Holl and Copp ar unmovable. Just waive thm both and replace when you can. It looks that DOPeS will not look at the Zegras hit on Raz.
Schenn would be a good add on D, If Copp,s season is done, Brayden could also be a possibility. Both would give some much needed toughness to the Wings lineup.
- HenryHockey

Like the Schenn bros, sounds like multiple teams trying to get both so that hikes the price if true. I have a feeling FLA will be the cap circumventer with the Tkachuk injury. TDL is next week. Ottawa trying hard to get Brady to stay but what a get that would be

Just out:
Rasmussen Blindsided, Ducks' Zegras Faces Suspension For Head Shot

“When a player gets a hit to the head and doesn’t return, it is never a good sign,” Red Wings head coach Todd McLellan said afterwards. They're still awaiting news on the player's condition.
- HenryHockey

Man DOPS is all over the place sometimes. Glad this is getting looked at. Seems like a coin toss any more

Yes, and the Wings are still rebuilding! And it does not make much sense to give up assets for rentals but only players with term left on their contracts IF Y decides to buy.
- HenryHockey

I think McLellan had more wins than Lalonde before the 4 nations break. Agree on type of return. If it is a “sign and trade” or significant player in that younger age bracket can make it work. Other than that would still like to see a call up/tryout if a spot opens up before TDL

NHL insider David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period has Pettersson on his trade bait board and lists the Red Wings as a team interested in him.

“With J.T. Miller dealt to the Rangers, the Canucks have slowed things down with respect to the Pettersson trade market,” Pagnotta wrote. “They’ll continue to listen, but unless someone blows their socks off — Pettersson has expressed his desire to stay in Vancouver — at this point, a move ahead of the deadline may be a surprise. But never say never.”

Too much salary for his results and his lack of tenacity! They would gut our current team to get this guy! Besides, despite losing their last 2 games, Van is still in a playoff spot! If they trade anyone it will be Sousy or Boeser.

NHL insider David Pagnotta of The Fourth Period has Pettersson on his trade bait board and lists the Red Wings as a team interested in him.

“With J.T. Miller dealt to the Rangers, the Canucks have slowed things down with respect to the Pettersson trade market,” Pagnotta wrote. “They’ll continue to listen, but unless someone blows their socks off — Pettersson has expressed his desire to stay in Vancouver — at this point, a move ahead of the deadline may be a surprise. But never say never.”

Too much salary for his results and his lack of tenacity! They would gut our current team to get this guy! Besides, despite losing their last 2 games, Van is still in a playoff spot! If they trade anyone it will be Sousy or Boeser.
- HenryHockey

Yeah, it didn’t make sense any more on Pettersson w/Miller gone. The friction seemed to be needing one or the other. I’d love Boeser but would really like to see if Buchelnikov is interested in a KHL buyout. Seems to have some grit. Hoping to see some kids at the end of the year. Fun just to see them get in some games

Jeremy Laura: Red Wings give up 3 goal lead, but Kane gets OT win over Ducks
- Jeremy Laura

Ville Husso to the Ducks, if we can move him maybe we can move Holl, Tarasenko, or Gustafson🙏🙏🙏

Ville Husso to the Ducks, if we can move him maybe we can move Holl, Tarasenko, or Gustafson🙏🙏🙏
- Goalie Dad

Ducks must have a buyer for Gibby! But he has an injury..........day to day.

Ville Husso to the Ducks, if we can move him maybe we can move Holl, Tarasenko, or Gustafson🙏🙏🙏
- Goalie Dad

Maybe Y did not have to give draft picks to get rid of Husso because another deal is coming. Maybe he is acquiring Zegras, and Raz and Veleno are going the other way

Maybe Y did not have to give draft picks to get rid of Husso because another deal is coming. Maybe he is acquiring Zegras, and Raz and Veleno are going the other way

- HenryHockey

Maybe that is why Zegras cheap shotted Ras😂😂😂😂