Some tweaks are naturally needed, but if there's no deal then it'll be the players who will get targeted by the fans' wrath. And they deserve it at that point too.
If they can't work this out, in regards to this framework set out by the owners, then it's all going to point to a egotistical moment for Donald Fehr. The game is bigger then Gary Bettman and Donald Fehr, so get over it and get this fixed for the fans.
Those poor players David Backes was right to compare this to an average American/Canadian making $50,000 a year... How will these players afford rent/utilities/food?
Dont kid yourself, the NHLPA is thrilled by this deal, not because they want to accept it as is, rather because there is likely room to move on the negotiations, but they want more so they will say how much its not what they want etc etc....its called posturing.
They will have a deal done next week, unless this is the final offer by the NHL.
NHL knows they will have to move a bit to get this done...and they likely will. The owners cant afford to miss a season. The damage it will do to the game and certain franchises is catastrophic.
Fehr doesn't care about the league or the players. It seems like he doesn't care that much about getting a decent deal either, all he cares about is public perception and his ego.
There is a little wiggle room in this deal but the players are never going to get anything substantially better than what is on the table right now.
personally if i were the league i would sign practically anything the players wanted and then get rid of all the bad teams... and all the players on crap teams (referring strictly to revenue) are SOL....
personally if i were the league i would sign practically anything the players wanted and then get rid of all the bad teams... and all the players on crap teams (referring strictly to revenue) are SOL.... - Not_Sure42
In the perfect world, there should be no more than 24 teams in the NHL, but there's no way they could get rid of teams at this point. Those teams would have to be bought out, and that would probably cost over a billion dollars.
If HRR definition was changed and the players get less HRR then it really isnt 50/50 split. Also the players lose more money to escrow and this "payback" means that the players pay the players for their contracts.
Also remember that players dont literally receive 50 percent of the revenue. The 50% would determine the CAP number which influences player salaries.
Without the cap the HRR definition and split does not matter.
If HRR definition was changed and the players get less HRR then it really isnt 50/50 split. Also the players lose more money to escrow and this "payback" means that the players pay the players for their contracts.
Also remember that players dont literally receive 50 percent of the revenue. The 50% would determine the CAP number which influences player salaries.
Without the cap the HRR definition and split does not matter. - Sirfunkyton
PR is a funny animal, and the NHL knows it. For the fans, what they offered sounds a hell of a lot better than Fehr's insistence the they don't want to give up any current salary.
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PR is a funny animal, and the NHL knows it. For the fans, what they offered sounds a hell of a lot better than Fehr's insistence the they don't want to give up any current salary. - p_zub
Your Avatar MAkes me hate that azzhole even more. Makes me wanna knock that b!tch out.
Fehr doesn't care about the league or the players. It seems like he doesn't care that much about getting a decent deal either, all he cares about is public perception and his ego. - niedermayer27
This is not a decent deal for the players and Fehr. Continuing to take money away from players is not the answer to fix the league internal fighting amongst owners.
roenick, 18 teams lost money last year... If you're not going to decrease player revenues, how do suggest they fix the league? - laughs2907
Im not saying not to decrease players revenue. But that is not the only solution to fix these on going lockouts every 5-7 years. Bettman needs to look past 5 years and think long-term on how to make the league successful for everyone involved.
Im not saying not to decrease players revenue. But that is not the only solution to fix these on going lockouts every 5-7 years. Bettman needs to look past 5 years and think long-term on how to make the league successful for everyone involved. - roenick
You can't do that, because nothing is for certain. You need to see how things are going, and re-evaluate them down the road. A 6 year CBA is realistic.
roenick, 18 teams lost money last year... If you're not going to decrease player revenues, how do suggest they fix the league? - laughs2907
Sometimes people forget that revenue and profitability are not the same thing. Sure revenues are up consistently....but so also are player costs and other hockey related costs.
Sometimes people forget that revenue and profitability are not the same thing. Sure revenues are up consistently....but so also are player costs and other hockey related costs. - p_zub
David Backes was right to compare this to an average American/Canadian making $50,000 a year... How will these players afford rent/utilities/food?
