Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Giroux, Draft Re-Entries and More

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Giroux, Draft Re-Entries and More
- bmeltzer

Tyrell Ghoulbourne, 3rd rounder from last draft is also a re-entry guy.

Good Ol Any Elmore...no D.

Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Giroux, Draft Re-Entries and More
- bmeltzer

That's pretty hard to believe. Giroux not even being mentioned on that list! To start a team. I would clearly take G over a lot of those guys.
I can see Ovie not being there as he is truly one dimensional. Then again it is only a small panel of NHL personal. The actual players know what he can do as he was voted a Lindsey award finalist.

Claude Giroux and Erik Karlsson not getting votes is a joke, but it shows the flawed mindset of NHL execs pretty well - basically they just try to copy teams that win, and usually do a poor job of it. No other reason for Malkin to be at the bottom of that list, either.

"Hurr Durr, well the blackhawks and kings have won cups so name all their better players"

The biggest highlights of his career in the Flyers organization were being a key part of the Phantoms' 2007-08 Calder Cup championship team

I think you meant the 1997-98 Calder Cup championship team....

Claude Giroux and Erik Karlsson not getting votes is a joke, but it shows the flawed mindset of NHL execs pretty well - basically they just try to copy teams that win, and usually do a poor job of it. No other reason for Malkin to be at the bottom of that list, either.

"Hurr Durr, well the blackhawks and kings have won cups so name all their better players"
- TommyDeVito

LOL

Bill, do you think this is a flaw in NHL execs mindset or ours? Do we over rate Giroux in their minds?

Claude Giroux and Erik Karlsson not getting votes is a joke, but it shows the flawed mindset of NHL execs pretty well - basically they just try to copy teams that win, and usually do a poor job of it. No other reason for Malkin to be at the bottom of that list, either.

"Hurr Durr, well the blackhawks and kings have won cups so name all their better players"
- TommyDeVito

I don't put too much stock on those little GM polls.

I'm stunned deplore scored that many goals with Nashville. He probably led the team?

I'm not shocked with the Giroux thing. I didnt see keith or subban on there both Norris winners.

I was surprised Stamkos and Malkin were near the bottom. I'd probably have Stamkos number one on my list.

I'm stunned deplore scored that many goals with Nashville. He probably led the team?

I'm not shocked with the Giroux thing. I didnt see keith or subban on there both Norris winners.
- Just5

Delmore could definitely skate and fire the puck, which is great, but for whatever reason, it never translated for him into being a good defenseman at the NHL level.

I was surprised Stamkos and Malkin were near the bottom. I'd probably have Stamkos number one on my list.
- JFlyers00

also suprised at Datsyuk is on the list given his age, also who would ever build a team around a goaltender, any team that was starting from scratch would never be good enough quick enough to cash in on that goalies abilities. Further proof that these people pooled don't have a clue

Tyrell Ghoulbourne, 3rd rounder from last draft is also a re-entry guy.

Good Ol Any Elmore...no D.
- Jsaquella

I was surprised Stamkos and Malkin were near the bottom. I'd probably have Stamkos number one on my list.
- JFlyers00

Stamkos is a fantastic young goal scorer. But when you factor in everything in their games, I'd definitely take Crosby and Toews over him.

The G thing is much to do about nothing IMHO. Even if you surveyed our fans the votes would be all over the place. What matters is that Philly has a heck of a player that gives them a chance to win the SC (obviously with good supporting players).

Delmore! More like Del-less. He was a good whipping boy for us fans and that's about it. Now Randy Jones

Delmore could definitely skate and fire the puck, which is great, but for whatever reason, it never translated for him into being a good defenseman at the NHL level.
- johndewar

Both his positioning and decision making were awful in the defensive zone.

I can't say I'm overly shocked about not seeing Giroux on this list. I mean picking 5 players out of all the NHL players is a hard task, given all 30 teams have at least 2 star players to choose from (some more, some less). So you're picking 5 players out of 60 very good players, not easy to do. Three players that I think of off the bat are Toes, Stamkos, and Crosby.

If I'm going to start a franchise from scratch, I want to begin by building around a star player under 25. With that in mind I would likely go with either OEL or MacKinnon, but if you ask me a year from now, it might be McDavid.

If I'm going to start a franchise from scratch, I want to begin by building around a star player under 25. With that in mind I would likely go with either OEL or MacKinnon, but if you ask me a year from now, it might be McDavid.
- BiggE

Drew Doughty, Alex Pietrangelo, John Tavares, and Tyler Seguin would be my best of the under twenty-five group.

Drew Doughty, Alex Pietrangelo, John Tavares, and Tyler Seguin would be my best of the under twenty-five group.
- aflyerpower8

no stamkos?

Drew Doughty, Alex Pietrangelo, John Tavares, and Tyler Seguin would be my best of the under twenty-five group.
- aflyerpower8

I'd be fine with Doughty, Pietrangelo and JT, not so much on Seguin. He's an excellent player, but I think he's not quite at the level of the other 3.

Giroux isn't on, but Subban is?

It's a flawed study. If you want to show the top 10, then have each person write out their top 10 list. I think most of them would have a hard time keeping G off of their top 10 list.

no stamkos?
- jak521

My bad, I thought he was 25. Yes, he would definitely be on my short list!

It's a flawed study. If you want to show the top 10, then have each person write out their top 10 list. I think most of them would have a hard time keeping G off of their top 10 list.
- PhillySportsGuy

Stamkos is a fantastic young goal scorer. But when you factor in everything in their games, I'd definitely take Crosby and Toews over him.
- jmatchett383

If Crosby didn't have his injury history, he'd definitely be the clear cut number one for me. Even though he won the Hart this year, I still feel like what he did this year was really under appreciated. As much as I hate the guy, he's a hell of a player and the best in the game.