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TheJerseyDevil1
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Location: Brick City, NJ Joined: 10.05.2011
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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What he said makes sense even in an analytical stance...
better players have better numbers
I saw on twitter how other bloggers and Mike Schopp were all over this yesterday. It's not a big deal.
IMO its the general manager that is putting together the team its up to the coach to use those players correctly. I don't see why people make a big deal out of it. It's not like the Sabres are using the Leafs method trying to sustain a bad team that happens to be winning. The Sabres know they aren't expected to win. |
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I like this guy. - TheJerseyDevil1
btw, ouch on your location |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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The coach dismissing analytics is fine. The GM dismissing it is another story.
Nolan is right though, just focus on getting better players, the puck possession will follow |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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ANALytics take the fun out of the game. - cabin
*rimshot* |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Have you guys missed me at all? |
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cabin
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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Have you guys missed me at all? - JVince11
Who you ? |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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The coach dismissing analytics is fine. The GM dismissing it is another story.
Nolan is right though, just focus on getting better players, the puck possession will follow - sbroads24
Murray didn't even dismiss it though he just said he wasn't big on it. Then said if what his eyes see and the numbers match up great if not then there is a decision to make and then the numbers usually don't lie.
Just because he isn't Billy Bean doesn't mean Murray isn't smart about it. IMO this is just a way to get people talking about hockey before the season starts. It's a nonissue. |
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Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 07.11.2008
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Have you guys missed me at all? - JVince11
I was just saying the other day . Where is the rotten SOB?
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Who you ? - cabin
Ahhh Classic Cabby... good to be back. |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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I was just saying the other day . Where is the rotten SOB?
- Maximum Signal
Kid stealin, limosuine riding, first class flying.. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
haha |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Ahhh Classic Cabby... good to be back. - JVince11
Did you get a long ShanBan?? |
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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Columbia , MD Joined: 11.28.2006
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Analytics are a tool and if used right it is helpful. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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Have you guys missed me at all? - JVince11
You were gone?? |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Did you get a long ShanBan?? - Stripes77
Lol no... I just go back and forth on what sport websites I chat on... I came in here a few times over the summer during the draft but i was mainly on a separate football site.
I'm getting excited for the Sabres to start here though... I really don't think our team is as bad as people think after looking at the line combos. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Analytics are a tool and if used right it is helpful. - powerhouse
Agreed its a tool, not a way of life |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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You were gone?? - stashu
I see how it is Ref!!!! |
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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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Nolan is the perfect coach for the tank job this year. Can him at the end of the year and move on. |
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stashu
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: SC Joined: 06.04.2008
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I see how it is Ref!!!! - JVince11
hehe, welcome back man. Didn't want to include the obvious wink emote. |
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notalent
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: lake placid, NY Joined: 02.26.2011
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Analytics are just another tool, newfangled at that, for a GM to look at his team. It shouldn't have too much to do with day to day coaching.
For example, Nolan started Reinhart in the Washington game in a defensive zone face off against Nick Backstrom...welcome to the NHL, kid. That's a "human" decision by Nolan to throw the kid in,sink or swim style, to see how he responds. If however, after 40 games, you can see from the stats that he's struggling against top competition in the defensive zone then he better wise up to analytics. This is supposedly what Vancouver did with Cody Hodson before that trade.
Nolan has a way of simplifying things that makes them seem pretty clear. And I trust him. But, if like last year, we have a bunch of -100 Corsi games (shots, shots attempted, blocked shots) then no amount of "compete" is going to win games. |
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Buffalo-Sabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I lost a bet, NY Joined: 07.05.2007
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Analytics: I've said it before, it's a tool in the arsenal. If Nolan doesn't use it others in the org will.
I like our lineup for tonight. Looks more like what our team will resemble. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Analytics are just another tool, newfangled at that, for a GM to look at his team. It shouldn't have too much to do with day to day coaching.
For example, Nolan started Reinhart in the Washington game in a defensive zone face off against Nick Backstrom...welcome to the NHL, kid. That's a "human" decision by Nolan to throw the kid in,sink or swim style, to see how he responds. If however, after 40 games, you can see from the stats that he's struggling against top competition in the defensive zone then he better wise up to analytics. This is supposedly what Vancouver did with Cody Hodson before that trade.
Nolan has a way of simplifying things that makes them seem pretty clear. And I trust him. But, if like last year, we have a bunch of -100 Corsi games (shots, shots attempted, blocked shots) then no amount of "compete" is going to win games. - notalent
Like your name that came down to the no talent roster. It's not so much no talent but lack of talent. We have some players with talent but they need to play with better talent. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Nolan is the perfect coach for the tank job this year. Can him at the end of the year and move on. - Ryan_Wilson
How do you figure? He is known to get the most out of players that aren't necessarily on the right path.
I expect an unnecessary career type year for some players |
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