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GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 11 @ 12:36 PM ET
GARTH'S CORNER: Tim Murray Blockbuster
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Feb 11 @ 12:41 PM ET
pretty sweet deal for Buffalo...


not happy
FieldOfGreen
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.18.2013

Feb 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
sabres gave up too much... Kane better produce and have a good attitude
oilerfan94
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.15.2012

Feb 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
kane'll have Eichel doing blow in year 1
Dannymik
Buffalo Sabres
Location: West Seneca, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
kane'll have Eichel doing blow in year 1
- oilerfan94


Wow, that's very intelligent of you
scol354412
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 11 @ 12:56 PM ET
wow, what a joke this trade is. Did we really need to give up a first and a young prospect ? I get the Myers part of the trade, but to give up an Armia who never even got a chance with the big club or a young prospect like Lemieux is just dumb. Gave up way to much for way to little.
DirtyDozen
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 11.28.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
pretty sweet deal for Buffalo...


not happy

- Feeling Glucky?


Armia and Lemieux may come back to bite the sabres in the ass.
Kalahad
Joined: 07.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
Unreal what Buffalo gave up. Far too much.
notalent
Buffalo Sabres
Location: lake placid, NY
Joined: 02.26.2011

Feb 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
Well love it or hate it, this is why we wanted Tim Murray as our GM. Smart and aggressive. Look, I've been a fan of Myers and I'm a little concerned about giving up solid prospects in Lemieux and Armia, but you have to look at what we're getting back.

It's not just Kane (the 4th overall pick in 2009) but also Bogosian (3rd overall pick in 2008). Those are two cornerstone pieces for the Sabres moving forward. I'm kind of surprised Chevy would part with Bogosian.....
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Feb 11 @ 1:08 PM ET
pretty sweet deal for Buffalo...


not happy

- Feeling Glucky?



They got the best player in the deal in Bogosian.

Kane acted like a turd in Winnipeg. Do you honestly think he will act like a saint in the US version of Peg in Buffalo? I don't.
jphillips4793
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:09 PM ET
How could you not love this trade by the Sabres? Bogosian and Myers were in the same draft in 08 and Myers had expectations through the roof after his rookie season. He wasn't panning out so we got a great defenseman to replace him. Also our prospects such as McCabe will be up next season to replace Myers.

As for Kane why not go out and get someone who will help McEichel next season? Over the past three seasons he's on par with Malkin, Staal, Hossa, and Gaborik when it comes to goal scoring. He won't play this year so he gets to recover and we get to stay at the bottom of the rankings.

One last point for those that said we gave up too much..Stafford is an UFA after this season and he probably won't resign with WPG, Armia wouldn't have made this team in a few years, and the 1st round pick we give up is the latest pick which will probably be the Blues that will fall 25-29th.

If you look at it that way it's Myers and Lemieux for Kane and Bogosian..and I'll take it.
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:22 PM ET
How could you not love this trade by the Sabres? Bogosian and Myers were in the same draft in 08 and Myers had expectations through the roof after his rookie season. He wasn't panning out so we got a great defenseman to replace him. Also our prospects such as McCabe will be up next season to replace Myers.

As for Kane why not go out and get someone who will help McEichel next season? Over the past three seasons he's on par with Malkin, Staal, Hossa, and Gaborik when it comes to goal scoring. He won't play this year so he gets to recover and we get to stay at the bottom of the rankings.

One last point for those that said we gave up too much..Stafford is an UFA after this season and he probably won't resign with WPG, Armia wouldn't have made this team in a few years, and the 1st round pick we give up is the latest pick which will probably be the Blues that will fall 25-29th.

If you look at it that way it's Myers and Lemieux for Kane and Bogosian..and I'll take it.

- jphillips4793

Good points until the bolded part. How can you just make that blanket statement? Couldn't you also say the same about Lemieux then? And the first round pick could end up being another Lemieux. I'm not saying I don't like the deal, just pointing out that you can't just make those assumptions to help yourself justify the trade.
scol354412
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 11 @ 1:24 PM ET
How can you honestly say that this was a "coup" for Buffalo? Do they have any leadership in that office ? I am surprised they didn't toss in Girgensons as well..Go back to Ottawa.
Losman
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 08.30.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:32 PM ET
Sabres get 2 former top 5 draft selections. Who are probably the 2 best players now AND moving forward in this deal.

scol354412
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 11 @ 1:37 PM ET
The defenseman then become a swap and we gave up Stafford, Lemieux, Armia and a late first round pick in the reported deepest draft in years for damaged player that's a head case..oh yeah! great deal...I guess we have not suffered enough.
noffsin6
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 08.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:38 PM ET
Bwhahaha. I thought the Sabres didn't have to trade Myers and were only going to trade him if it was an "overpayment." This is just a classic "you take my over hyped high draft pick bust and I'll take yours." Although by wrangling out Stafford and a late 1st rounder Winnipeg gets the edge.

At least Buffalo has a perfect replacement for Chris Stewart's over hyped mediocrity for next season. Maybe they can actually make their team better when they trade him.

jphillips4793
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:44 PM ET
Good points until the bolded part. How can you just make that blanket statement? Couldn't you also say the same about Lemieux then? And the first round pick could end up being another Lemieux. I'm not saying I don't like the deal, just pointing out that you can't just make those assumptions to help yourself justify the trade.
- druryisclutch


That was a poor choice of words. What I meant to say is that Armia is replaceable. I feel as though Lemieux has more potential than Armia, which to me hurts more to lose Lemieux.
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:46 PM ET
That was a poor choice of words. What I meant to say is that Armia is replaceable. I feel as though Lemieux has more potential than Armia, which to me hurts more to lose Lemieux.
- jphillips4793


Understood. I always look at it as you have to give up something to get something. Murray must really like the guys he is getting. My name isn't Garth, so I'm not going to pretend I know the ins and outs of each of these young players. I guess we have to trust that he is making the right deal.
jphillips4793
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:46 PM ET
Bwhahaha. I thought the Sabres didn't have to trade Myers and were only going to trade him if it was an "overpayment." This is just a classic "you take my over hyped high draft pick bust and I'll take yours." Although by wrangling out Stafford and a late 1st rounder Winnipeg gets the edge.

At least Buffalo has a perfect replacement for Chris Stewart's over hyped mediocrity for next season. Maybe they can actually make their team better when they trade him.

- noffsin6


Someone is just upset their team lost out on the Myers deal..
scol354412
Joined: 02.11.2015

Feb 11 @ 1:47 PM ET
I just stinks being a Buffalo fan.
jphillips4793
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Feb 11 @ 1:50 PM ET
Understood. I always look at it as you have to give up something to get something. Murray must really like the guys he is getting. My name isn't Garth, so I'm not going to pretend I know the ins and outs of each of these young players. I guess we have to trust that he is making the right deal.
- druryisclutch


Just think of it this way. Next year we will have Kane and McDavid or Eichel together, Reinhart centering Molson and Ennis on line 2, and Girgensons centering line three. On the point we have Zadarov, Risto, and Bogosian as our top three with prospects like McCabe coming through the system.

As Rick Jeanneret would probably say, "These guys are going to be good...scary good."
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Feb 11 @ 1:54 PM ET
Brutal trade for Buffalo. Gave up way too much.


Sabres fans are excited about Kane but say Roy was a cancer in the room.. mind boggling.


GARTH is still thinking Myers will get Mantha lolol
noffsin6
Detroit Red Wings
Location: MI
Joined: 08.01.2006

Feb 11 @ 1:59 PM ET
Someone is just upset their team lost out on the Myers deal..
- jphillips4793


Oh no, I'm just really happy people can STFU about it now. Although if I knew the Sabres would throw in a 1st rounder and a prospect with Myers for a 15-20 goals a year guy and a bottom four dman I might have at least entertained the thought.
SayBeers
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 01.16.2015

Feb 11 @ 2:00 PM ET
Brutal trade for Buffalo. Gave up way too much.


Sabres fans are excited about Kane but say Roy was a cancer in the room.. mind boggling.


GARTH is still thinking Myers will get Mantha lolol

- jbold

Toronto Maple Leafs LOL
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Feb 11 @ 2:01 PM ET
Toronto Maple Leafs LOL
- SayBeers

And the Sabres are any better?

For a team who has won nothing, ever. You're pretty cocky.
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