Jason Lewis: The Near-Perfect Cap Scenario for Los Angeles

Furthermore, we have the Mike Richards buyout possibility. That would knock the Kings for a cap penalty of $1.467M for the next 10 years, but alleviate the team of his $5.75M hit right now. Thus, a buyout would create $4.283M in cap space next season for the Kings if it were executed.
- Jason Lewis

Actually, that's now how a Richards buyout would work. The Kings would get hit with some buyout recapture penalty, meaning the cap hits would look like this:

2015-16 - $1.217M
2016-17 - $1.717M
2017-18 - $2.717M
2018-19 - $4.217M
2019-20 - $4.217M
2020-25 - $1.467M

Your cap scenario would work for the next two seasons, but we'd have major issues for the three seasons following.

As much as I would love to keep Justin Williams, the man deserves more money. He's a dominant possession player, and a lot of teams out there will be willing to overpay on a 2-3 year contract to get a Conn Smythe winger to push them over the top (I'm looking at you Pittsburgh).

Williams will walk, the Kings will keep Jones for $1-1.25M, and the Kings will fill in JW's spot either through free agency or from Manchester/Ontario.

Actually, that's now how a Richards buyout would work. The Kings would get hit with some buyout recapture penalty, meaning the cap hits would look like this:

2015-16 - $1.217M
2016-17 - $1.717M
2017-18 - $2.717M
2018-19 - $4.217M
2019-20 - $4.217M
2020-25 - $1.467M

Your cap scenario would work for the next two seasons, but we'd have major issues for the three seasons following.

As much as I would love to keep Justin Williams, the man deserves more money. He's a dominant possession player, and a lot of teams out there will be willing to overpay on a 2-3 year contract to get a Conn Smythe winger to push them over the top (I'm looking at you Pittsburgh).

Williams will walk, the Kings will keep Jones for $1-1.25M, and the Kings will fill in JW's spot either through free agency or from Manchester/Ontario.
- tkecanuck341

You are correct and I should have specified that this was aimed at a next season thing. The recapture penalty would be different down the line.

I can't imagine going through all of that to keep Justin Williams. He's good, but c'mon. Besides, Toffoli is going to makes you forget about Williams in a heartbeat. Getting him signed and happy is the top priority. Then Dean gets to figure out Kopitar. That will be fun!

I can't imagine going through all of that to keep Justin Williams. He's good, but c'mon. Besides, Toffoli is going to makes you forget about Williams in a heartbeat. Getting him signed and happy is the top priority. Then Dean gets to figure out Kopitar. That will be fun!
- duxcup07

Justin Williams is better than just good. I'll let Ryan Wilson's blog make my points for me.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...t_id=68446&blogger_id=177

My 2 cents - TT is the priority once that is done and set - everything else is gravy - don't miss the steak for the peas - I hate to say this - but this is still a favorite for the cup next yr - guys will come back super hungry and the rest will do nothing but help - I think this team will finally figure out the regular season does matter somewhat and will really be ready for no less that a 2nd place finish in the pac - gotta see how the cap hits rest of the league - Chi / Bos are screwed - going to be a ton of good players available that want to win cup - trades so on so forth are options - TT is the must - that's it - everyone else is replaceable - He is not - - Some one is going to throw 5yr 6mil per to TT on an offer sheet - for sure -

My 2 cents - TT is the priority once that is done and set - everything else is gravy - don't miss the steak for the peas - I hate to say this - but this is still a favorite for the cup next yr - guys will come back super hungry and the rest will do nothing but help - I think this team will finally figure out the regular season does matter somewhat and will really be ready for no less that a 2nd place finish in the pac - gotta see how the cap hits rest of the league - Chi / Bos are screwed - going to be a ton of good players available that want to win cup - trades so on so forth are options - TT is the must - that's it - everyone else is replaceable - He is not - - Some one is going to throw 5yr 6mil per to TT on an offer sheet - for sure -
- dozerD10

People say that every year about every above average RFA, and yet it hardly ever happens...

People say that every year about every above average RFA, and yet it hardly ever happens...
- tkecanuck341

People say it, it never happens, but if I were a GM who did not care what others thought I'd definitely utilize it. Especially in this situation. All the team would have to do is offer abou 4.5 for Toffoli and that would possibly do the Kings in.

That has been the history - I think though with the cap issues and some hungry new GM that is looking for the quick add impact piece that this yr will be different for a few offer sheets to players and TT would be number one on my list for sure -

Jason Lewis: The Near-Perfect Cap Scenario for Los Angeles
- Jason_Lewis

Let's say you're right and all that happens. Is that the team you want? Can they win it again with that group?

Let's say you're right and all that happens. Is that the team you want? Can they win it again with that group?
- Yikes726

Nope.

Kings should take the opportunity this season to step away from several bad contracts and aging players. Will they do it? Who knows.

http://www.generalfanager.com

Its not perfect but its a better capgeek replacement than NHL numbers in my opinion.

Counter point on Voynov: he's convicted BUT he appeals. The NHL rules that since his conviction isn't final pending the result of the appeal, the Kings get no cap relief.

I think GM Lombardi should do everything in his power to ice the same team that missed the playoffs this year while teams like Vancouver, Winnipeg, and Calgary made the postseason.

Signed,

Anaheim

PS I'm just going to step up and say this: Only real Kings fans are still on here talking about the Kings right now, a month after the season ended. You are to be commended and respected for your actual dedication to your team.

PPS Where's RobitailleFAN20 been since April 28?

Nope.

Kings should take the opportunity this season to step away from several bad contracts and aging players. Will they do it? Who knows.
- Jason_Lewis

You mean bite the bullet and buyout or trade some of guys other than Richards?

Counter point on Voynov: he's convicted BUT he appeals. The NHL rules that since his conviction isn't final pending the result of the appeal, the Kings get no cap relief.
- Only_A_Ladd

If Voynov is not available to play, the Kings will get cap relief. One of three things will happen:

1. He is convicted and his contract is voided. Voynov's contract will go off the books. If it's mid-season, the Kings might be on the hook for a percentage of his contract. It's unclear how the league would handle this since Voynov is now truly injured and not able to play. Since his contract is "voided", if he hasn't played a game the entire season, it's just as likely that the league will not apply any of his salary to the team's cap.

2. His outcome is unresolved. This could be because the trial is still going on, because he is appealing, or some other situation. He will still be suspended by the league and the Kings will get cap relief through LTIR like they did this season.

3. He is cleared and returned to the team. Voynov is still injured and won't be able to play this season anyway. He will be placed/remain on LTIR and the Kings will get cap relief through LTIR for the rest of the season. They will have to make some roster moves in the off-season to accommodate for Voynov's return, or they will have to trade him.

I think GM Lombardi should do everything in his power to ice the same team that missed the playoffs this year while teams like Vancouver, Winnipeg, and Calgary made the postseason.

Signed,

Anaheim

PS I'm just going to step up and say this: Only real Kings fans are still on here talking about the Kings right now, a month after the season ended. You are to be commended and respected for your actual dedication to your team.

PPS Where's RobitailleFAN20 been since April 28?
- yzermaneely

Kings are out. What is there to talk about? Progress reports on players are boring.

I don't live on here like you but since you called me out here I am.

I also have a job which requires me to be responsible, unlike your cubicle job.

Nice chatting with you.

I like Williams but honestly I wouldn't give him a long term deal, I'd give Toffoli that deal. Williams is getting older, and his play is probably going to start declining quickly. I'd take him on a 2 year deal all day, but I'm guessing he wants 5 years and probably 5+ million per year. He probably wont be worth it by year 3, maybe sooner.

Also I let Sekera walk, I didn't see anything to me that says "Wow, we really need this guy!" especially not at 6 million. A 3-4 million? Sure, but not 6, he's wasn't the second best defender on the team. If we're hurting that bad for a veteran guy then I'd rather just call up Jeff Schultz.

I'd focus on keeping Toffoli, kick the tires on Williams a bit, buy out Richards, and then see what happens with Voynov. I'm assuming he's gone, so if he is then they have someone like Schultz or a rookie who will play, and if somehow he returns, then there is no need.

Buying out Richards is going to screw the team over in the future. Maybe if Lombardi doesn't plan on being GM much longer it's not a bad choice. Can't see how ownership would allow it though.

Interesting scenario, Jason. Nice read. Gives us hope of keeping Williams.

If Voynov is not available to play, the Kings will get cap relief. One of three things will happen:

1. He is convicted and his contract is voided. Voynov's contract will go off the books. If it's mid-season, the Kings might be on the hook for a percentage of his contract. It's unclear how the league would handle this since Voynov is now truly injured and not able to play. Since his contract is "voided", if he hasn't played a game the entire season, it's just as likely that the league will not apply any of his salary to the team's cap.

2. His outcome is unresolved. This could be because the trial is still going on, because he is appealing, or some other situation. He will still be suspended by the league and the Kings will get cap relief through LTIR like they did this season.

3. He is cleared and returned to the team. Voynov is still injured and won't be able to play this season anyway. He will be placed/remain on LTIR and the Kings will get cap relief through LTIR for the rest of the season. They will have to make some roster moves in the off-season to accommodate for Voynov's return, or they will have to trade him.
- tkecanuck341

I don't think 2 is a certainty, and 1 is interrelated with 2. There is slim chance that if Voynov is convicted he won't appeal. His conviction would adversely impact his residency in the United States (I'm making that assumption) along with jail time. The league, to my knowledge, hasn't explicitly set forth how it is going to determine when his conviction is final in order to void the contract. The LTIR situation with his injury does seem like the baseline scenario. That would offer some cap relief.

is Jones ready to take over? Trade quick if he is.

If not, make the tough move and trade carter.

In hindsight, Lombardi really Nonised the richards compliance buyout. Too late now for richards. Forces a trade of a big money marketable contract.

That or wallow in mediocrity.

I don't think 2 is a certainty, and 1 is interrelated with 2. There is slim chance that if Voynov is convicted he won't appeal. His conviction would adversely impact his residency in the United States (I'm making that assumption) along with jail time. The league, to my knowledge, hasn't explicitly set forth how it is going to determine when his conviction is final in order to void the contract. The LTIR situation with his injury does seem like the baseline scenario. That would offer some cap relief.
- Only_A_Ladd

You're correct. If he is convicted of a felony he will be deported following his sentence.
It's a moot point discussing Voynov though, there is no chance he'll play in the foreseeable future as this trial won't happen for a long while. My wife is a defense investigator and she's talked to people who have seen all of the photos of Voynov's wife. They are as bad as you could imagine. I don't know how they're going to get him out of this one.

Kings are out. What is there to talk about? Progress reports on players are boring.

I don't live on here like you but since you called me out here I am.

I also have a job which requires me to be responsible, unlike your cubicle job.

Nice chatting with you.
- RobitailleFAN20

It's good to see you're here. I'm glad you could pull yourself away from your "real" job to read tonight.

BTW, you should respect people for working. I saw an old dude in NV a few months back sweeping up the parking lot at a gas station. He was proud of the job he was doing, and he knew it was important to bring value to his employer. That he did. That lot sparkled! Show some respect to people who actually work for a living, unlike me, and I would guess you too.

PS I'll count you as a real Kings fan now who should be respected for it. You should hear no more bandwagon talk from me.

is Jones ready to take over? Trade quick if he is.
- Tumbleweed

Are you completely insane, or just a closeted Duck fan?