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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Jakub Kindl And The Penguins Jakub Kindl And The Penguins
Zmloste
Detroit Red Wings
Joined: 07.01.2013

Jan 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
how long is coles contract, please take kindl
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jan 9 @ 4:24 PM ET
Is he a LHD?

Doubt he gets passed edm and cbj but what the hell low risk/high reward. Send lovejoy packing
Chukkles
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scotch Plains, NJ
Joined: 07.18.2015

Jan 9 @ 4:44 PM ET
As much as I would love to trade for Kindl, I do not think trading Cole is the answer. Trade Daley and his 3.3mil salary if at all possible. although its doubtful Detroit would take either in trade as they would probably prefer to get picks/prospects in exchange.

Maybe a Clendenning for Kindl might work for the Red Wings


D lines looking something like:

Letang / Maata

Kindl / Dumo

Daley / Cole

Lovejoy 7th D
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 9 @ 4:48 PM ET
Kindl is a tease. Nice size, good skater, great passer. Low effort player. Poor away from the puck. Doesn't want to play defense.

I don't believe he's any better than the guys the Penguins have.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 9 @ 4:49 PM ET
once again the bottom six is the worst in the league... what do we need to do to have good bottom six
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 9 @ 4:52 PM ET
if we win this one we are at a wild card spot. if we lose this one the flyers goes past us
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Jan 9 @ 5:02 PM ET
if we win this one we are at a wild card spot. if we lose this one the flyers goes past us

- martox


So we are in the favourable position of being able to control our own destiny and this upsets you?
And we have far from the worst bottom six in the league. Does anyone look at other teams or just figure since we aren't first we are last?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jan 9 @ 5:14 PM ET
He is on waivers so why trade for him. If pens get him then they can try to trade someone else.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 9 @ 5:20 PM ET
Agree with stackthepads 100%! We don't have the worse D in the league, & I'll bet Ryan could throw together some colourful charts & graphs to prove that!

Our shooting % however - now there's a huge problem!!! Get our shooting % up to league average & watch everyone go silent on our young & thrown together D!

Also, ffs don't put Lovejob on the ice with a (frank)ing EN!!! He is NOT an attacking Dynamo - absolute madness from Sully when you have Tanger, Maatta, Daley & Dumo! No soup for Sully after that decision!
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Jan 9 @ 5:20 PM ET
He is on waivers so why trade for him. If pens get him then they can try to trade someone else.
- nh4442


Contract limit or cap space.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jan 9 @ 5:22 PM ET
Bunny dmen and the penguins
Chukkles
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scotch Plains, NJ
Joined: 07.18.2015

Jan 9 @ 5:24 PM ET
He is on waivers so why trade for him. If pens get him then they can try to trade someone else.
- nh4442



I understand he is on waivers but it seems like the general thought process for NHL teams is to not take on bigger contracts without shedding salary in turn.

Therefore it is more likely to trade for a player after he clears waivers than to claim him and retain more salary.
martox
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Stockholm - "Nights when we don't have our A-game, we better have our A-commitment & A-effort."
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jan 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
So we are in the favourable position of being able to control our own destiny and this upsets you?
And we have far from the worst bottom six in the league. Does anyone look at other teams or just figure since we aren't first we are last?

- stackthepads

not sad that we have a chance to get a wild card. am sad that flyers pass us if we DON'T win . and the second was just to stir the pot
houseofcards74
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jan 9 @ 5:34 PM ET
It's the numbers game. We have too many D so trading him for another struggling defenseman is highly unlikely. It would put the Wings in the same spot and they'd have to waive a player again to be at the 23 man roster limit.
Jurco_28
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: 51st state-Canada or Puerto Rico?
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jan 9 @ 5:51 PM ET
Kindl sucks, i dont need metrics or Corsi stats to tell me that.
Kunit
Joined: 05.29.2014

Jan 9 @ 6:19 PM ET
Kindl would be a good fit if he was a right shot dman... But the fact he's not makes we wanna pass on him...
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Jan 9 @ 6:33 PM ET
Lateral move at the very best. Definite pass here.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jan 9 @ 6:33 PM ET
According to Ryan Wilson's Corsi and his Fenwick, before the season our bottom 6 was the BEST it has ever been

How's the eye test working out with us on that?

I don't care about Kindl's Hero Chart

If the Wings are waiving him - It's because he sucks

Corsi that....

Was this really new blog worthy?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jan 9 @ 6:38 PM ET
I still don't think D is what we should be targeting. The question that needs to be asked is do we think our top 6 forwards can break out of their slump. If that answer is yes then we sit tight. If the answer is no, we need to ask if this is a fixable problem with the resources we have this season. If that answer is no, we sell. If not, we need to be targeting top 6 LWs not defensemen.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 9 @ 6:39 PM ET
According to Ryan Wilson's Corsi and his Fenwick, before the season our bottom 6 was the BEST it has ever been

How's the eye test working out with us on that?


In fairness, our bottom 6 was quite good when we had everyone together. Plot-Cullen-Fehr was the best 4th line we had in years. Sprong, Dupuis, and Bennett are now gone from the lineup and we are feeling the effects.

I see your point, but our bottom 6 was much improved from years past and its easy to look past that because of underachieving results. As others have said, the forward roster construction was excellent...its been execution thats been a problem.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jan 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
I wonder why sully doesn't try Sid and kessel
Pens_Burgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: OH
Joined: 07.09.2015

Jan 9 @ 6:52 PM ET
According to Ryan Wilson's Corsi and his Fenwick, before the season our bottom 6 was the BEST it has ever been

How's the eye test working out with us on that?

I don't care about Kindl's Hero Chart

If the Wings are waiving him - It's because he sucks

Corsi that....

Was this really new blog worthy?

- TheGame316


Kindl sucks. I live in toledo so I'm pretty familiar with the Wings. Everyone around here is happy he's on waivers.

RW has probably seen very little of Kindl actually playing, if at all before today.
hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 9 @ 6:53 PM ET

In fairness, our bottom 6 was quite good when we had everyone together.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


Even when they were all together there was no discernible uptick in scoring or defensive aptitude. They might have looked better for a while because they were different, but the results were the same.

hardnosed
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.23.2008

Jan 9 @ 6:55 PM ET
Kindl sucks. I live in toledo so I'm pretty familiar with the Wings. Everyone around here is happy he's on waivers.

RW has probably seen very little of Kindl actually playing, if at all before today.

- Pens_Burgh


Kindl is Detroit fan's less-productive version of Ryan Whitney.
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