Jared Crozier: Potential Senators Draft Target #1 - Logan Brown

From what I've read, Logan Brown isn't any kind of a 'power forward' because he's more of a pass-first player who isn't exceedingly physical. But he's certainly a big body that looks well suited to a possible 2nd line role in the NHL. He also has NHL pedigree, which is always sought after - though is maybe overvalued at times.

It will be interesting to see which of Brown, McLeod, Jost, and Keller are still on the board at #12. Any of them would be a welcome addition, but there's certainly a range of different styles among them.

Sounds like the next Brian Boyle to me.

From what I've read, Logan Brown isn't any kind of a 'power forward' because he's more of a pass-first player who isn't exceedingly physical. But he's certainly a big body that looks well suited to a possible 2nd line role in the NHL. He also has NHL pedigree, which is always sought after - though is maybe overvalued at times.

It will be interesting to see which of Brown, McLeod, Jost, and Keller are still on the board at #12. Any of them would be a welcome addition, but there's certainly a range of different styles among them.
- khawk

I guess it depends on your definition of "power forward" - A playmaker with size who finishes his check and can work the boards as stated below from different sources comes pretty close in my book. It doesn't mean you have to steamroll players every shift...Hossa didn't do that but his ability to hold the puck and shield it, keep possession while going through opposing checks qualifies as a power forward in my book.

Tyler Parchem of Elite Prospects - 2016 - "Brown is a huge center that excels at both ends of the ice. He can be dominant in the offensive zone but takes care of his own end as well. His 6'6 frame is key to his success as he uses his body to shield his puck and his reach to keep it off other players sticks. He is not overly physical for a player his size, but will finish every check and battle down low very effectively. He has a good shot with a pro like release as well as good creativity and maturity when passing the puck."

Future Considerations - "A tall, lanky power forward that possesses a dangerous shot that he can get on net from anywhere on the ice. He is not afraid to use his frame to muscle his way to the net or work the boards. Possesses impressive vision and playmaking ability from the outside and has the unique blend of imposing Big Rig size with solid speed although improvement to his first two steps is required. Needs to continue to add strength to his frame and bring more consistency to his overall game. Has high-end top line NHL upside."

From what I've read, Logan Brown isn't any kind of a 'power forward' because he's more of a pass-first player who isn't exceedingly physical. But he's certainly a big body that looks well suited to a possible 2nd line role in the NHL. He also has NHL pedigree, which is always sought after - though is maybe overvalued at times.

It will be interesting to see which of Brown, McLeod, Jost, and Keller are still on the board at #12. Any of them would be a welcome addition, but there's certainly a range of different styles among them.
- khawk

Sens will get a good player at 12. The only question is which one like you said it could be anyone of those 4 and I would say Nylander would be in the mix too. The top 3 dmen will most likely be gone by then too. Brown will probably be gone but I think you will be choosing between Yost and Keller although total crap shoot.

Sens will get a good player at 12. The only question is which one like you said it could be anyone of those 4 and I would say Nylander would be in the mix too. The top 3 dmen will most likely be gone by then too. Brown will probably be gone but I think you will be choosing between Yost and Keller although total crap shoot.
- mauryballstein

Every site I looked at that I would be willing to reference as credible had Nylander in the top group of 6...if he were still there at 12...

I just see him as the one guy who could slide. I would take keller over him cus i think he has the higher offensive potential. Jost gives you more of a two way game and leadership. Seems like players 4-13 are fairly even and someone always seems to drop for some reason.

I just see him as the one guy who could slide. I would take keller over him cus i think he has the higher offensive potential. Jost gives you more of a two way game and leadership. Seems like players 4-13 are fairly even and someone always seems to drop for some reason.
- mauryballstein

Fair enough, I just see the top 6 as pretty set unless someone (Cough - Edmonton - Cough) upsets the concensus by taking a defenseman (who are usually 7-8 and maybe 9 or 10 on most lists), which could easily happen. A spot or two is possible or even likely if someone needs blue line help, but I don't see Nylander dropping out of the top 10.

Always interesting talking about potential picks. Looks pretty likely we will take a centre or a d-man. I'd like to see Dorian pick up another centre to work with. I know we have an abundance of middling centres already, but we still lack someone with game breaking ability. While it's unlikely that we will draft a franchise guy at 12, there's always a chance. Centres make or break teams.

I don't mind Brown. We haven't had a gifted pass first guy on this squad since you know who. I think it will come down to Mcloud or Jost. Those two seem to offer more than Brown as an overall package.

I still feel Dorian should seriously consider moving the pick if he can get a guy who is closer to NHL ready. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. We have a 3 year window to win with this current group. If we draft a kid, they likely won't be making an impact in that time.

Fair enough, I just see the top 6 as pretty set unless someone (Cough - Edmonton - Cough) upsets the concensus by taking a defenseman (who are usually 7-8 and maybe 9 or 10 on most lists), which could easily happen. A spot or two is possible or even likely if someone needs blue line help, but I don't see Nylander dropping out of the top 10.
- JaredCrozier

I see it going..

Leafs - mathews
peg - Laine
CBJ - pulj
flames - tkachuk(flames need wingers with size.. maybe give up there 2nd rounder)
nucks - dubois(need a center)
oilers - serghachev(plays the right side which they desperately need)
yotes - joulevi (loaded up front with prospects need d badly)
sabres - chychrun(same as coyotes)
habs - nylander(need scoring up front)
avs - keller(have some quality young centers and d)
devils - brown(have some d need more forwards, although they have lots of centers)
sens - yost (future captain, plays center and wing)
canes - mccleod(lots of yound dmen so go with a forward)
bruins - bean(also need a center bellows perhaps an option)

I think that is close. But, I also think that Edmonton is better than 50/50 to move their pick as part of a package for a ready to go, first pairing Dman.

Subban for #4, Yakupov and a very serious player.

Subban for #4, Yakupov and a very serious player.
- spatso

THAT would be interesting, especially if they are able keep Darnell Nurse to play the Left side

I think that is close. But, I also think that Edmonton is better than 50/50 to move their pick as part of a package for a ready to go, first pairing Dman.

Subban for #4, Yakupov and a very serious player.
- spatso

No way Montreal trades their best defenceman, and not get one back.

Sens will get a good player at 12. The only question is which one like you said it could be anyone of those 4 and I would say Nylander would be in the mix too. The top 3 dmen will most likely be gone by then too. Brown will probably be gone but I think you will be choosing between Yost and Keller although total crap shoot.
- mauryballstein

I hope you're right! Dorion Doesn't want to start his NHL GM career drafting another Jared Cowen or Brian Lee in the top half of the first round..

Murray's second trade as Sens GM was to acquire the #15 in 08 to grab Karlsson. Hopefully Dorion has some early successfull moves like BM did.

In other news, looks like Mikael Wikstrand will be staying in Sweden for at least another 4 seasons as he just signed a new contract there. Good pick for a seventh rounder, but damn kid, who throws away an NHL career like that

Every site I looked at that I would be willing to reference as credible had Nylander in the top group of 6...if he were still there at 12...
- JaredCrozier

I would be very sad if Nylander fell to Ottawa. Though it would be a fun story having the Nylander brothers facing off Ottawa vs Toronto

I would be very sad if Nylander fell to Ottawa. Though it would be a fun story having the Nylander brothers facing off Ottawa vs Toronto
- ClarksonDavid

highly doubt he isn't drafted in the top 8... impossible outside top 10

From what I've read, Logan Brown isn't any kind of a 'power forward' because he's more of a pass-first player who isn't exceedingly physical. But he's certainly a big body that looks well suited to a possible 2nd line role in the NHL. He also has NHL pedigree, which is always sought after - though is maybe overvalued at times.

It will be interesting to see which of Brown, McLeod, Jost, and Keller are still on the board at #12. Any of them would be a welcome addition, but there's certainly a range of different styles among them.
- khawk

Marc Dumont at SB Nation did a cross correlation of several scouting agencies as well as media rankings of the upcoming draft eligible players. It would appear the top 9 are locked in with Chychrun appearing to be the only one in the top 9 where support may further weaken. Outside the top 9, three guys are rising. Jost, Bean and Logan Brown and one (or all) could move up and push Chychrun down to as low as #12.

The only other player that might figure into the calculus is Keller. But he appears to be trending down. Michael McLeod is the wild man on a variety of lists ranking anywhere for 3rd to 16th.

#12 would be a decent player. I think Brown is a decent pick. If not him, then maybe Bellows. Big LW /C with a left shot.

However, there are reports the Sens are going to trade with Edmonton for the #4pick to get tkachuk, because the Oilers are looking to get a Dman. I'm betting this is what the recent talk that Hoffman will be traded at the draft was all about. Chances are it would be the #12 + Hoffman for the #4. I've now seen this trade mentioned in like 4 places. I don't know where it started, but it seems to be coming up a lot.

#12 would be a decent player. I think Brown is a decent pick. If not him, then maybe Bellows. Big LW /C with a left shot.

However, there are reports the Sens are going to trade with Edmonton for the #4pick to get tkachuk, because the Oilers are looking to get a Dman. I'm betting this is what the recent talk that Hoffman will be traded at the draft was all about. Chances are it would be the #12 + Hoffman for the #4. I've now seen this trade mentioned in like 4 places. I don't know where it started, but it seems to be coming up a lot.
- MaxTLimit

If the Oilers are looking for a Dman, why would they downgrade to #12 when the very top Dmen would be gone at that point. I can see dropping to 7 or 8 where you would be pretty assured of getting one of your top 2 D choices. Or better still for Edmonton, trade #4 for an NHL ready top 2/3 Dman.

Outside the top 9, three guys are rising. Jost, Bean and Logan Brown and one (or all) could move up and push Chychrun down to as low as #12.
- spatso

If Chychrun were available at #12, I think they'd be foolish to pass on him, and I wouldn't be averse to Bean or even McAvoy, who is the highest-rated RHD and could be something of a darkhorse pick. You really can't have enough depth on the blueline, and young defencemen tend to be excellent trade currency. If the Senators had any kind of a succession plan in place for Ceci they would most likely be planning where to slot Drouin into the top-6 for next season.

As for Brown, he appears to be edging more towards the top-10, because GM's seem to be getting their usual 'big-body' June boners... so it looks most likely to be one of Jost, McLeod, Keller or Bean at #12.

If the Oilers are looking for a Dman, why would they downgrade to #12 when the very top Dmen would be gone at that point. I can see dropping to 7 or 8 where you would be pretty assured of getting one of your top 2 D choices. Or better still for Edmonton, trade #4 for an NHL ready top 2/3 Dman.
- SensFan25

It seems apparent they are banking on some of the top ranked D still being available. It's hard to say which Dman they have their eye on. Maybe they see something in McAvoy they like? He will almost definitely be available.

If the Oilers are looking for a Dman, why would they downgrade to #12 when the very top Dmen would be gone at that point. I can see dropping to 7 or 8 where you would be pretty assured of getting one of your top 2 D choices. Or better still for Edmonton, trade #4 for an NHL ready top 2/3 Dman.
- SensFan25

If Edmonton is looking for a d-man, they are looking for one now, not a #12 pick in this years draft. They would want Ceci, or Chabot.

Can't go wrong with Keller. We need skill

In other news, looks like Mikael Wikstrand will be staying in Sweden for at least another 4 seasons as he just signed a new contract there. Good pick for a seventh rounder, but damn kid, who throws away an NHL career like that
- Erik6Karlsson5

I think those contracts allow players to opt out if they make the NHL roster.