Jason Lewis: Jonathan Quick injured in season opener

Picked up Zatkoff as soon as they showed the replay of when they think it happened...

Serious question.. you guys want Fleury?

Pavelec could be had cheap, and only has the one year left on his contract.

I am not concerned about the goalie position as I am with what is going on in front of that guy.

As you are well aware I do not subscribe to the "it's just the first game" "it's a long season" "it will be alright" "just believe" and any of that myriad of myopic conjecture the affords the team and management to do nothing to address the glaring issues that leads to this mentality of complacency and allows the media to continually over rate this teams potential. The team has problems and they will continue to be problems unless they make some good decisions and hard choices.

You all saw it again last night. SPEED KILLS. The sharks are not even one of the fastest teams in the league and they had clear open ice from their blue line to the kings end zone face off dots. All the sharks had to do was slip the fore-check and the likes of Greene, Forbort, Martinez and everyone's favorite over rated defenseman McNaab, would be back on their heels and unable or unwilling to create any up ice pressure. it happened more than once , more than twice, and it is a serious issue that will only be further exposed by faster teams.

The forward lines and players have issues as well. Purcell is on the second line purely because there is a temporary hole there and really is a 3rd liner at best. I really doubt that he legitimately should have a roster spot at all.

Brown is utterly useless on the top line and Carter was virtually invisible. The 4th line was actually pretty decent but I doubt that they will sustain that level of play or improve on it as the season wears on.

There are hungry players in our system that know the system and would better be served and serve the club better by letting them have ice time in the big show.

Brown is a 3rd liner so F.F.S. stick him there. Bring Carter up to the first line with Kopi and Seto. And, I know this will be met with a great deal of "no ways", but bring up Kempe and let him center Tofolli and Pearson or let Dowd do it ( Purcell for now and then move him back to 3rd line with Brown. ) When Gabo gets back Move Seto to the 3rd line and have shore center it with Brown and Seto. Do what you will with Purcell at that point, send him down or put him on the 4th line but he just doesn't fit.

The Defensive fix options are limited. I like the DD and Muzz combo, it was hands down the best pair in the opener. I would rather see LaDue and Martinez or Martinez and Forbort/Gravel as a 3-4 and kick Greene to the Curb to make a 6-7 of LaDue and McNaab. and that is just with what we have laying around. Preferably I would still want to go get a legit 4 slot D-man but wish in one hand in crap in the other, amirite?


Sorry for the TL;DR but I am effing pissed.

I am not concerned about the goalie position as I am with what is going on in front of that guy.

As you are well aware I do not subscribe to the "it's just the first game" "it's a long season" "it will be alright" "just believe" and any of that myriad of myopic conjecture the affords the team and management to do nothing to address the glaring issues that leads to this mentality of complacency and allows the media to continually over rate this teams potential. The team has problems and they will continue to be problems unless they make some good decisions and hard choices.

You all saw it again last night. SPEED KILLS. The sharks are not even one of the fastest teams in the league and they had clear open ice from their blue line to the kings end zone face off dots. All the sharks had to do was slip the fore-check and the likes of Greene, Forbort, Martinez and everyone's favorite over rated defenseman McNaab, would be back on their heels and unable or unwilling to create any up ice pressure. it happened more than once , more than twice, and it is a serious issue that will only be further exposed by faster teams.

The forward lines and players have issues as well. Purcell is on the second line purely because there is a temporary hole there and really is a 3rd liner at best. I really doubt that he legitimately should have a roster spot at all.

Brown is utterly useless on the top line and Carter was virtually invisible. The 4th line was actually pretty decent but I doubt that they will sustain that level of play or improve on it as the season wears on.

There are hungry players in our system that know the system and would better be served and serve the club better by letting them have ice time in the big show.

Brown is a 3rd liner so F.F.S. stick him there. Bring Carter up to the first line with Kopi and Seto. And, I know this will be met with a great deal of "no ways", but bring up Kempe and let him center Tofolli and Pearson or let Dowd do it ( Purcell for now and then move him back to 3rd line with Brown. ) When Gabo gets back Move Seto to the 3rd line and have shore center it with Brown and Seto. Do what you will with Purcell at that point, send him down or put him on the 4th line but he just doesn't fit.

The Defensive fix options are limited. I like the DD and Muzz combo, it was hands down the best pair in the opener. I would rather see LaDue and Martinez or Martinez and Forbort/Gravel as a 3-4 and kick Greene to the Curb to make a 6-7 of LaDue and McNaab. and that is just with what we have laying around. Preferably I would still want to go get a legit 4 slot D-man but wish in one hand in crap in the other, amirite?


Sorry for the TL;DR but I am effing pissed.
- MikeOxbyg

Yep kempe should be brought up and Dowd needs to be in. Tired of this slow ass team. It's not going to work. Can't wait til DL is not in charge. I'm really hoping Futa gets the spot

Serious question.. you guys want Fleury?
- j.boyd919

Nope not with that contract.

so I've never spammed at this level. I apologize, but I have no choice.

In a bit of a bind in my "hockeybuzz" league.
Had a manager drop out this morning like a champ.

The (3 hour long) draft is 8:15pm EST TONIGHT.

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4C, 3LW, 3RW, 2W, 6D, 1G, 6BN, 1IR+, 2IR
Stats:
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W, GAA, SV, SV%, SHO

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Yep kempe should be brought up and Dowd needs to be in. Tired of this slow ass team. It's not going to work. Can't wait til DL is not in charge. I'm really hoping Futa gets the spot
- KINGS67

I seem to recall several articles/interviews with DL and DS this off season about the sweeping changes to the play style and foot speed and play making speed. I see none of that. it's the same product and play style as last season

Nope not with that contract.
- KINGS67

If Quick is done for year I'd suggest Bishop is the best replacement...1 year deal, high quality, about some cap hit...cost will be a 1st rounder and maybe a prospect, but to save the season that is very reasonable price.

If Quick is done for year I'd suggest Bishop is the best replacement...1 year deal, high quality, about some cap hit...cost will be a 1st rounder and maybe a prospect, but to save the season that is very reasonable price.
- mventres

cupboards are bare due to that mentality

They were moving the puck around on the powerplay. Thats about the best thing I can about last nights game

We are going to need guys like Shore and Lewis to play now and give that high-quality defense of which some speak. Dowd can still be defensively unsound at times. Greene and Forbort are going to have to lock it down on that 3rd pairing. Forbort was actually pretty good in that game.

I really don't see Zatkoff as being able to save the game like Quick can. I can see him giving away some games though also like Quick can.

If Quick is done for year I'd suggest Bishop is the best replacement...1 year deal, high quality, about some cap hit...cost will be a 1st rounder and maybe a prospect, but to save the season that is very reasonable price.
- mventres

Nope. Not worth it

It is what it is for season. Can't do anything about losing one of the best goalies in the world in the first game to injury. Hopefully it's not season ending but I'm guessing it is.

Just read Quick is week to week. That doesn't sound too terrible

This is why you can't just go into the season with an attitude of "if the team gets scoring by committee, if the big guns carry the team again, if the young players provide a spark, if the team leans on Quick again and if there are no surprises in the division, the team should be as good as last year." Each of those things can compensate if the team doesn't already expect them, but when you've already factored them in and are counting on them, you leave no room for error or misfortune. It's like Clark Griswold factoring in his expected Christmas bonus. If misfortune strikes, getting an unexpected bonus could save your bacon, but if you're already counting on it, you're screwed, and doubly screwed if you also don't get the bonus.

Losing Quick is not necessarily the end of the world for a defensive team like the Kings, but other players need to step up, like how the team greatly stepped up its scoring in the 2014 playoffs to make up for the fact that Quick was subpar. The problem is that, this season, most players have already been counted on to step up. The star players stepped up last year, winning the Norris and Selke and adding the team's first 30-goal scorer under Sutter. They can't honestly step up any more and it's already asking a lot just to have them duplicate those performances. The rest, especially the new players who are just learning the NHL or the system, are being counted on to step up and replace Lucic's scoring and Gaborik's scoring, not to mention Lecavalier's scoring and even the combined 30pts from Schenn, McBain and Ehrhoff. There's also, then, the good chance that the defense, with all of the new, young players, won't be quite as stingy as past teams, putting more burden on the scoring to compensate.

The point is that it's dangerous and foolish to leave little room for error or misfortune and then excuse it by saying, "if everything goes as planned, the team will be alright." Quick getting injured in Game 1 is a great example of why you never assume that things will go as planned. Of course you can't anticipate exactly that happening, but you can anticipate that you'll have setbacks and, if you're GM, cover your bases by building a team that can weather such misfortune (like Tampa Bay losing Stamkos or Pittsburgh losing Fleury), or, if you're a fan, stand up and voice your critique if the team isn't built well enough.

Just read Quick is week to week. That doesn't sound too terrible
- KINGS67

The results of the MRI aren't known, so that appears to be speculation and, I think, an automatic call accompanying him being placed on injured reserve, which has a minimum of 7 days. In other words, he'll be re-evaluated in a week... hence, week to week for now. I imagine that he's out at least a month. You don't rush groin injuries. If Quick were to re-injure it coming back too early, he'd likely be out most (if not all) of the rest of the season.

Just read the line combos in practice today and none of these make the Kings better then yesterday.

King/Kopi/Toffoli
Purcell/Carter/Lewis
Brown/Clifford/Shore/Nolan
Andreoff/Dowd/Setoguchi

Just read Quick is week to week. That doesn't sound too terrible
- KINGS67

He's been IR'd...

Just read the line combos in practice today and none of these make the Kings better then yesterday.

King/Kopi/Toffoli
Purcell/Carter/Lewis
Brown/Clifford/Shore/Nolan
Andreoff/Dowd/Setoguchi
- LAkings96

sums up my feelings on these line combo's right about now.....

King/Kopi/Toffoli
Purcell/Carter/Lewis
Brown/Clifford/Shore/Nolan
Andreoff/Dowd/Setoguchi

i've had it with king on the top line...classic sutter. i'd go with:

purcell - kopi - carter
king - dowd - toffoli
brown - shore - lewis
clifford - andreoff - nolan

the fourth line was the most effective in the last game. get some offense with kopi, and give dowd a chance to actually do something.

muzzin - doughty
mcnabb - martinez
forbort - gilbert

enough of greene...he was victimized all game long and looks even older than last season, which is saying something. take a chance now and send him down to ontario, bring up ladue or gravel to play with forbort and start the maturation process now. they can't be worse. plus you save some cap hit by doing so.

cupboards are bare due to that mentality
- MikeOxbyg

That metality got you a couple of Cups....wanna trade them in for draft picks?

Just read the line combos in practice today and none of these make the Kings better then yesterday.

King/Kopi/Toffoli
Purcell/Carter/Lewis
Brown/Clifford/Shore/Nolan
Andreoff/Dowd/Setoguchi
- LAkings96

King

That metality got you a couple of Cups....wanna trade them in for draft picks?
- Larsson_fan

it failed the last couple seasons and now we have nothing to give... what else you got smart a$$?

Just read Quick is week to week. That doesn't sound too terrible
- KINGS67

oh

Hey you guys think Milker time will work for you...?