John Jaeckel: About Last Night

Thanks once again JJ for relaying what you hear!

You and others (Grasso @rumor break and Jay Zawaski) are in the same page on Kruger. And there are others (Grasso @rumorbreak) who have Seabrook or at least some serious smoke around moving a core player (JZ) too. These things are so fluid but when you start to hear the same things from multiple places it ads some weight to the rumors.

Thinking things are heating up a bit earlier than I expected - especially for the Hawks. -

Im 100% fine dealing seabrook and Kruger and AA. Reshuffling the deck with some $ in hand for Bowman.

Lets do it

If Benning ever did trade for Seabrook and a pick he use to own (Forsling) then I hope he would be fired immediately.

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I am hearing Chicago is listening to offers on Brent Seabrook, Corey Crawford and Marian Hossa.

If Seabrook was to waive I think Toronto would be more likely. Young fast team and Babcock.

If Benning ever did trade for Seabrook and a pick he use to own (Forsling) then I hope he would be fired immediately.
- VANTEL

FWIW, I heard that was a deal the Hawks would offer around that time (last Sunday). I do not know how Vancouver responded or where it went except to say that the teams were still talking as of a day or two ago. Toronto sounds like it has some legitimacy as of last night.

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I am hearing Chicago is listening to offers on Brent Seabrook, Corey Crawford and Marian Hossa.
- mrpaulish

Yeah, I don't know where Michael is getting the Hossa and Crawford stuff, because I am not hearing that right now and I think both are difficult logistically. But he has legit stuff often.

FWIW, I heard that was a deal the Hawks would offer around that time (last Sunday). I do not know how Vancouver responded or where it went except to say that the teams were still talking as of a day or two ago. Toronto sounds like it has some legitimacy as of last night.
- John Jaeckel

What happened to Josh Manson?

As far as salary dumps go, Seabrook (+) for Tanev (+) wouldn't be too bad at all. Don't get me wrong, from a normal hockey perspective I wouldn't make this trade but as far as salary dumps go it's not bad.

FWIW, I heard that was a deal the Hawks would offer around that time (last Sunday). I do not know how Vancouver responded or where it went except to say that the teams were still talking as of a day or two ago. Toronto sounds like it has some legitimacy as of last night.
- John Jaeckel

Toronto makes sense, Vancouver would be a dumb trade.

I like Seabrook but it makes zero sense from a Canuck trade .

From Toronto get the 28 Years old Matt Martin for 1 Million Dollars . Save 5.8 million dollars.

If Seabrook was to waive I think Toronto would be more likely. Young fast team and Babcock.
- mrpaulish

Vancouver is his hometown. There are downsides to Toronto. But it s a team on the rise where his leadership could drive them up a notch.

it also greatly depends on what the other teams offer and whether he would waive for either.

I would also not rule out some other clubs as I hear there is a lot of interest. I just have not heard specifics and i won't just make them up.

What happened to Josh Manson?
- RickJ

Not sure, i need to add that in to the blog though as they are interested. IMO it is a hige longshot regardless.

As far as salary dumps go, Seabrook (+) for Tanev (+) wouldn't be too bad at all. Don't get me wrong, from a normal hockey perspective I wouldn't make this trade but as far as salary dumps go it's not bad.
- DarthKane

Salary Dumps. Thats where we are at unfortunnatley I bet anything the Blackhawks projected the cap would be around 84 Million by now back 4 years ago. Cap staying level has hurt a lot.

These guys have the Hawks starting at 4 million dollars over the cap


https://www.capfriendly.com/

If Seabrook went to Toronto, it would stir up a fuss. He is same age as Phaneuf, has nearly the same contract in terms of $000. But his contract runs a bunch of years longer than Dion.

Vancouver is his hometown. There are downsides to Toronto. But it s a team on the rise where his leadership could drive them up a notch.

it also greatly depends on what the other teams offer and whether he would waive for either.

I would also not rule out some other clubs as I hear there is a lot of interest. I just have not heard specifics and i won't just make them up.
- John Jaeckel

I know hes from Vancouver , and thats nice and everything but didnt his parents house get vandalized or something after the Hawks lost the Vancouver ? I thought I remember reading something like that. Plus if the Hawks got a list of 2 from Seabrook Im sure theyd prefer to move him East.

If Seabrook went to Toronto, it would stir up a fuss. He is same age as Phaneuf, has nearly the same contract in terms of $000. But his contract runs a bunch of years longer than Dion.
- spatso

A fuss ?

Seabrook >>>>>>> Phaneuf

The Dion vs Brent argument has been going on for a long, long time. Both are good players and both are leaders.

3 cups vs 0 cups.

(The retort/counter argument): Hey that's only because he is on a good Chicago team!

Seabrook > Dion

(Microphone drop)

Canucks and leafs are both trying to rebuild... don't see why either team or any team would trade for a 32 year old defenceman that doesn't put up much offensively with over six years left on his contract getting over 6 million/year

just want to add, this summer is a mixed bag from the rumor reporting standpoint:

POSITIVES:

A lot of legit rumors and conversatins out there, so a lot to report rtegularly

NEGATIVES

Due to expansion, and the Hawks' situation, especially re: the Cap and the tougher challenge for Bowman (lose $$ and get younger, but younger and cheaper with NHL experience), a lot of these things won't pan out.

So bear with me, I am reporting what I am hearing and not adding a lot of editorial to it. When I say a Kruger deal to LV is close, it's because that's what I keep hearing. But nothing is guaranteed until the league announces it.

Vancouver is his hometown. There are downsides to Toronto. But it s a team on the rise where his leadership could drive them up a notch.

it also greatly depends on what the other teams offer and whether he would waive for either.

I would also not rule out some other clubs as I hear there is a lot of interest. I just have not heard specifics and i won't just make them up.
- John Jaeckel

Very good defenceman with a winning pedigree who are relatively injury free will always be in demand around the NHL. You win championships with those type of players.

If Stanbo knows Seabs will waive for the right location, there will be all kinds of interest from Tampa, Washington, Dallas, Boston, Toronto, Columbus, Edmonton. I don't view this as a salary dump only. #7 has value.

Canucks and leafs are both trying to rebuild... don't see why either team or any team would trade for a 32 year old defenceman that doesn't put up much offensively with over six years left on his contract getting over 6 million/year
- Kunit

Because . . . as I'VE reported, I don't think it's just "take on his deal for draft picks."

I think the Hawks are adding sweeteners (prospects/young players). And Toronto's rebuild is ahead of Vancouver's, so a guy with Seabrook's experience could be a nice add for a good, young team that's getting closer, like they are.

Very good defenceman with a winning pedigree who are relatively injury free will always be in demand around the NHL. You win championships with those type of players.

If Stanbo knows Seabs will waive for the right location, there will be all kinds of interest from Tampa, Washington, Dallas, Boston, Toronto, Columbus, Edmonton. I don't view this as a salary dump only. #7 has value.
- RickJ

I am hearing there is a lot of interest.

And you know I agree on why.