John Jaeckel: Into The Mind Of Q

Dare I say first!!!!!

An injury or two would sure test that depth on Defense.

I meant Oesterle - Rutta as 3rd pair?

JJ - Your guesses on line and D combinations are as good or better than most. As you said Q will keep changing them game to game, period to period and shift to shift.

Saad-Toews-Panik
Sharp-Anisimov-Kane
Hayden-Schmaltz-Hartman (the marshmallow between two graham crackers)
Bouma-Dauphin-Wingels (speed/energy/physical)
Kero

Keith-Murphy
Kempny-Seabs
Forsling-???? (filled on day two after Hossa LTIR'd - maybe Franson)
Rosi

This leaves out several who have an outside chance to make the opening night roster with a strong training camp:
Forwards - Hino, Tootoo, Jurco, Debrincat, Fortin, Highmore, Knott, Sikura, Johnson, Baun
D - Rutta, Snuggerud, Norell, Dahlstrom, Svedberg, Gustafsson, Oesterle, Pokka
G - Berube

Our D blows lmao

JJ - Your guesses on line and D combinations are as good or better than most. As you said Q will keep changing them game to game, period to period and shift to shift.

Saad-Toews-Panik
Sharp-Anisimov-Kane
Hayden-Schmaltz-Hartman (the marshmallow between two graham crackers)
Bouma-Dauphin-Wingels (speed/energy/physical)
Kero

Keith-Murphy
Kempny-Seabs
Forsling-???? (filled on day two after Hossa LTIR'd - maybe Franson)
Rosi

This leaves out several who have an outside chance to make the opening night roster with a strong training camp:
Forwards - Hino, Tootoo, Jurco, Debrincat, Fortin, Highmore, Knott, Sikura, Johnson, Baun
D - Rutta, Snuggerud, Norell, Dahlstrom, Svedberg, Gustafsson, Oesterle, Pokka
G - Berube
- -Doh-

Sikura is going back to college.

Good write up. The projections make sense as you explained them. The irony is we kid around about "line blending" and juggling but that's the strength of this group. How you say ?? The versatility of this forward group is very good, allowing for changes as the opponent may require or game situation. All fine, as long as Q gives the lines some time to gain some chemistry. Don't think anybody will be forced into the line up, because of the depth. But will instead go to Rockford to work on their game. As far as the defense goes, very curious to see what Ulf Samuellson can bring to the table. Not sure about this, but I believe Kempney and Ruta were team mates in their homeland. We will have to see how this all shakes out, but maybe that can be one pairing. Leaving Forsling and Seabrook as second pairing. This give you at least two pairings with quicker puck movers .... like Keith and Forsling, paired with more physical partner ..... Murphy and Seabrook.

Not saying it will happen, but I'm also wondering if (maybe with Breadman gone) maybe AA might find himself sliding down to line 3 because Q might trust him defensively (kind of like how Hossa moved down because of defensive play)

I.e.

Saad- Toews - Panik
Sharp/Hartman - Schmaltz - Kane
Sharp/Hartman - AA - Wingels
I have no idea what the forth line could be really.


I could especially see it that maybe Q would give an offensive unit like Sharp-Schmaltz-Kane Ozone starts and get them away from the Dzone play and give some of the more hard nosed guys like Hartman/AA/Wingels the Dzone time.

I meant Oesterle - Rutta as 3rd pair?
- jt19

I think both Rutta and Oesterle were brought in to be on the roster and likely play in the bottom pair. I wouldn't be surprised if these guys line up at the 5/6 or are part of a platoon in that 3rd pair.

I think you nailed the first two lines. I don't see how it plays out any other way.

The third line I would have Hartman, Schmaltz, Wingles. I think that might be a decent combo of scoring and defense.

The fourth line I would have Buoma, Kero, Tootoo. I think that line could create a lot of havoc for teams. Maybe sub in Vinny for some speed.

And about the defense, what nickmo said. Unless Bowman can find a serviceable 3-4 dman at the beginning of the season, I think this team struggles to be a playoff team.

JMHO

As usual John I am a blog behind and hope that folks go back and read my post about the roller hockey and "rink" that was near gate 3 1/2 parking lot that the neighborhood kids played on in roller skates full hawk uniforms etc.

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Wiz,

I was wondering if you saw this over at SCH: https://www.secondcityhoc...5-under-25-alex-debrincat

What are your thoughts?
- tvetter

I agree with the the consensus that attempting to take entire organizations of prospects many of who will never see the NHL, or be even short term cap relief help for their parent teams.
Come on.
Can you or I actually have the time to attempt nhl projections for ALL those names these guys through 31 teams and judeg where they fit in the future? I say it over and over when asked about this hawk kid or this other one, just like you, I have to wait and see if this kid or that one can persevere, improve, play "that NHL" fast and click.

This link above is not the first year this young guy Sachel Price has attempted to try and rank hawk prospects, and quite frankly from the start I have been wondering how someoen is paying him, as he is a small paper write who write "expert" opinion on baseball the hawks and even the Florida Panthers.
The key is if even a smuck like me can write on a website, and give opinion, so can Sachel Paige with the difference being he probably hasn't seen most of them play for mre than a couple seconds.
He only has his countdown #25 through #16 my head is spinning with how inept his lets is, imo; just placing Wouter, a kid who is far from goalie, who any one can consider anything but a big piece of potential...but he is better than a Russian forward in Artur Kayumov, who has enough skill to at very least be a solid KHL player all based on an injury riddle production last year.
and to further prove my point, Tomas Jurco, who JJ sees as a boom or bust hawk, a guy who at very least can say to his grandkids he has played in 40 games and 111 PRO games when you count the AHL...Sachel has RIGHT now in his opinion,that Tim Soderlund, Matheson Iacopelli AND Ian Mitchell (from the Alberta junior league) are of better pro potential and all the guys he places in 1-15 slotes later...
to me, that insults the road that guys have to take to be in the bigs....downright insulting to intelligent hockey fans by someone who probably wasn't in organized sports because he was too excited when he got his latest version of WordPro.

Corey Prohman or this Sachel Price are attempting give an opinion,
and we all have those.

Corey DOES spend the time (including almost adamantly crying in interviews about the 2013 draft there is NOT a big Four, just a BIG 3, MacKinnon, Jones and Drouin, and that Barkov is NOT in their class!!!!) but you just can't think he gets it right for 31 ranks, because the Vegas Knights were ranked 14th based only on the selections in the weak 2017 draft.
Think about that for one second.

That means 16 Teams, their GMs, their scouting staffs have failed to get it right and draft in ALL their past drafts, not as well as the guys Vegas took with their extra selections.

(This is one thing that drives me crazy in the NHL draft too. If a team have two first rounders or say five picks in the first three rounds they immediately get a high grade, no matter if they drafted guys that bust.)

Yeah, like all of you, i think it will be tough to pigeon hole the final hawk roster, but I think Bouma, Wingels and Jurco have to get an edge but every other guy who is a bit younger is gonna be busting their rump to play more minutes in the Windy not the minors, so that can't be a bad thing.

I don't think Vinnie Hinnie or or Hayde can feel assured and start looking to purchase condos, and even Schmaltz...remember San Jose used their farm as an aid to make sure logan couture finally got all the phases right. I am not saying Schmaltz is in danger of demotion, just that there is no room for error or lack of confidence in NHL execution, that's all.

I think both Rutta and Oesterle were brought in to be on the roster and likely play in the bottom pair. I wouldn't be surprised if these guys line up at the 5/6 or are part of a platoon in that 3rd pair.
- breadbag

I think you might be right.

I expect Rozsival to continue as a translator and press box insurance policy who has plenty of experience.

An injury or two would sure test that depth on Defense.
- VopatsRash

nah see the above, they have bodies anyway.

The 5.2 Mil coming off the books for Hossa should hopefully be able to bring back a top 4 pairing D post the 1st day of the season. Let Kempny and Ruuta hold down the 5-6 spots with Keith/Murphy as 1-2 and Seabrook and (Hossa $'s) as 3-4....done.

An injury or two would sure test that depth on Defense.
- VopatsRash

True of any team. Preds D with Subban and Josi injured?

Also true the D could be very good if they get breakout years by a couple of the young guys (Murphy, Forsling, Rutta, Oesterle, Kempny, etc....)

As usual John I am a blog behind and hope that folks go back and read my post about the roller hockey and "rink" that was near gate 3 1/2 parking lot that the neighborhood kids played on in roller skates full hawk uniforms etc.

next;


I agree with the the consensus that attempting to take entire organizations of prospects many of who will never see the NHL, or be even short term cap relief help for their parent teams.
Come on.
Can you or I actually have the time to attempt nhl projections for ALL those names these guys through 31 teams and judeg where they fit in the future? I say it over and over when asked about this hawk kid or this other one, just like you, I have to wait and see if this kid or that one can persevere, improve, play "that NHL" fast and click.

This link above is not the first year this young guy Sachel Price has attempted to try and rank hawk prospects, and quite frankly from the start I have been wondering how someoen is paying him, as he is a small paper write who write "expert" opinion on baseball the hawks and even the Florida Panthers.
The key is if even a smuck like me can write on a website, and give opinion, so can Sachel Paige with the difference being he probably hasn't seen most of them play for mre than a couple seconds.
He only has his countdown #25 through #16 my head is spinning with how inept his lets is, imo; just placing Wouter, a kid who is far from goalie, who any one can consider anything but a big piece of potential...but he is better than a Russian forward in Artur Kayumov, who has enough skill to at very least be a solid KHL player all based on an injury riddle production last year.
and to further prove my point, Tomas Jurco, who JJ sees as a boom or bust hawk, a guy who at very least can say to his grandkids he has played in 40 games and 111 PRO games when you count the AHL...Sachel has RIGHT now in his opinion,that Tim Soderlund, Matheson Iacopelli AND Ian Mitchell (from the Alberta junior league) are of better pro potential and all the guys he places in 1-15 slotes later...
to me, that insults the road that guys have to take to be in the bigs....downright insulting to intelligent hockey fans by someone who probably wasn't in organized sports because he was too excited when he got his latest version of WordPro.

Corey Prohman or this Sachel Price are attempting give an opinion,
and we all have those.

Corey DOES spend the time (including almost adamantly crying in interviews about the 2013 draft there is NOT a big Four, just a BIG 3, MacKinnon, Jones and Drouin, and that Barkov is NOT in their class!!!!) but you just can't think he gets it right for 31 ranks, because the Vegas Knights were ranked 14th based only on the selections in the weak 2017 draft.
Think about that for one second.

That means 16 Teams, their GMs, their scouting staffs have failed to get it right and draft in ALL their past drafts, not as well as the guys Vegas took with their extra selections.

(This is one thing that drives me crazy in the NHL draft too. If a team have two first rounders or say five picks in the first three rounds they immediately get a high grade, no matter if they drafted guys that bust.)

Yeah, like all of you, i think it will be tough to pigeon hole the final hawk roster, but I think Bouma, Wingels and Jurco have to get an edge but every other guy who is a bit younger is gonna be busting their rump to play more minutes in the Windy not the minors, so that can't be a bad thing.

I don't think Vinnie Hinnie or or Hayde can feel assured and start looking to purchase condos, and even Schmaltz...remember San Jose used their farm as an aid to make sure logan couture finally got all the phases right. I am not saying Schmaltz is in danger of demotion, just that there is no room for error or lack of confidence in NHL execution, that's all.
- wiz1901

That's kind of what I was thinking, but I've barely seen any of the Hawks' prospects in actual game action, so I was interested in the opinion of someone I would call an expert. the Peeters review got to me as well. Even his breakdown talked about how he underperformed last year. If he really thinks this is the 22nd best Hawk prospect, the Hawks are in BIG trouble in a few years.

The 5.2 Mil coming off the books for Hossa should hopefully be able to bring back a top 4 pairing D post the 1st day of the season. Let Kempny and Ruuta hold down the 5-6 spots with Keith/Murphy as 1-2 and Seabrook and (Hossa $'s) as 3-4....done.
- Murph76

Have Kempny and Ruuta been paired together on any of the Czech teams? If so, how effective were they?

Have Kempny and Ruuta been paired together on any of the Czech teams? If so, how effective were they?
- tvetter

They were partners on the national team. I wasn't able to watch them play.

I think you make a great point. Anisimov could make a good 3rd line center ... just wish he was better at faceoofs .... maybe he will improve. Hinostroza and Hartman have been working out this off season with Kane, so hopefully that will payoff.

Kane training with miny viny hiny this off. Ya think he's trying to create a lil arti clone?

That'd be nice.

The 5.2 Mil coming off the books for Hossa should hopefully be able to bring back a top 4 pairing D post the 1st day of the season. Let Kempny and Ruuta hold down the 5-6 spots with Keith/Murphy as 1-2 and Seabrook and (Hossa $'s) as 3-4....done.
- Murph76

I would look for a Dman that has a smaller cap hit than the Hossa's $5.2 mil cap hit. Maybe a $2.5 mil cap hit. Franson maybe. Save some money for the TDL.

Here is another idea. Hossa's contract, a 2nd round pick, Forsling, and Hayden to NJ for Severson. Your right side D's Seabs, Severson, Murphy PLUS cap space for this year and 3 more. NJ has $18mil in cap space. You might have to change the 2nd round pick to a 1st to get them to take Hossa's contract for 3 years. You may also need to change Hayden to Debrincat. So maybe it would be Hossa's contract, a 1st, Debrincat and Forsling for Severson (and CAP SPACE for 4 years).

http://www.northjersey.co...severson-worth/499094001/

Kane training with miny viny hiny this off. Ya think he's trying to create a lil arti clone?

That'd be nice.
- hocktock

I just don't think Vinny has remotely that level of talent. He can skate and he is a fireplug, but the "Vinny as the next Marty St. Louis" narrative has never taken hold in my household.

i think a nice upside for Vinny would be sort of Kris Draper/Darren Helm. Always have. But even that is not where he is now.

I just don't think Vinny has remotely that level of talent. He can skate and he is a fireplug, but the "Vinny as the next Marty St. Louis" narrative has never taken hold in my household.

i think a nice upside for Vinny would be sort of Kris Draper/Darren Helm. Always have. But even that is not where he is now.
- John Jaeckel

Vinny has some hands too, but only sometimes. He's very inconsistent. Needs to be stronger on the puck too.

Vinny has some hands too, but only sometimes. He's very inconsistent. Needs to be stronger on the puck too.
- JRoenick97

Dunno, I don't see him ever scoring more than 15-20 goals in the NHL. Just don't think he's anything special above the waist.

Never know, I guess.