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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 31 @ 11:09 AM ET
Todd Cordell: On Damon Severson contract negotiations
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 31 @ 11:41 AM ET
Fist.

Pay him!
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Aug 31 @ 11:41 AM ET
4-4.5 M/y over 6 years is about as high as I see it going.

If less than that, 2.75-3.5 M for 2-3 years.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Aug 31 @ 12:03 PM ET
Trade him for DeKeyser
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Aug 31 @ 12:08 PM ET
4-4.5 M/y over 6 years is about as high as I see it going.

If less than that, 2.75-3.5 M for 2-3 years.

- archromat

6 years 4-4.5 would be awesome
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 31 @ 12:15 PM ET
4-4.5 M/y over 6 years is about as high as I see it going.

If less than that, 2.75-3.5 M for 2-3 years.

- archromat

I think you live in a dream world...
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 31 @ 12:21 PM ET
I think you live in a dream world...
- Iggysbff


It'll be interesting to see how it plays out but I'm not worried about it yet.

Ray's been very frugal on just about everything we've done. Ownership claim they'll spend when it makes sense... but apparently that time has come yet...

I can't think of anything this team needs to spend on more then wrapping up their one good, young defender. Even the offer to Shattenkirk was sort of a middling offer. Ray may have wanted him but it sure didn't seem like he went hard to attract the guy. So we sit with all this cap space and sign bargain basement players like Drew Stafford...
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 31 @ 12:33 PM ET
Severson has become the Devils top right shot D. I can't imagine that his camp will be willing to settle for less than 5 million. 5.5-6 would be my guess.
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Aug 31 @ 12:38 PM ET
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out but I'm not worried about it yet.

Ray's been very frugal on just about everything we've done. Ownership claim they'll spend when it makes sense... but apparently that time has come yet...

I can't think of anything this team needs to spend on more then wrapping up their one good, young defender. Even the offer to Shattenkirk was sort of a middling offer. Ray may have wanted him but it sure didn't seem like he went hard to attract the guy. So we sit with all this cap space and sign bargain basement players like Drew Stafford...

- Queenie_5_hole


You're clearly not a very patient person, Shattenkirk was not signing with anyone besides the Rangers regardless of the money and let's be honest he isn't a top pairing defenseman, all that cap space your talking about will be used to fill in holes when our prospects develop this is a development year nothing else
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Aug 31 @ 12:40 PM ET
Severson has become the Devils top right shot D. I can't imagine that his camp will be willing to settle for less than 5 million. 5.5-6 would be my guess.
- freelancer


He still has a lot to prove will not get over 5m I can see 4-4.5m
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 31 @ 12:56 PM ET
He still has a lot to prove will not get over 5m I can see 4-4.5m
- Devils314


If it is 6 or more years it will be over 5.5 per. Bank on that. Fowler got 6.5 long term.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 31 @ 1:02 PM ET
You're clearly not a very patient person, Shattenkirk was not signing with anyone besides the Rangers regardless of the money and let's be honest he isn't a top pairing defenseman, all that cap space your talking about will be used to fill in holes when our prospects develop this is a development year nothing else
- Devils314


Shattenkirk likely wasn't signing with anyone else but money talks and bullpoop walks. If Ray was interested enough to make an offer he needed to make a strong offer. But of course we didn't. And while Shatts may not be a first pairing guy, isn't NJ the place where he could be?

Last year was development year and people thought after plugging with Schlemko and Stempniak we'd actually compete in some free agency. But of course we didn't. We're not spending because ownership doesn't want to spend any money. That's how that works. It's not some grand strategy. Sorry to tell you, we're a two bit budget team.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Aug 31 @ 1:17 PM ET
I think you live in a dream world...
- Iggysbff



Going rate for a 30 pointish RHD in his early 20's. I agree it's going to be 6 year $30 million if they go long term.
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 31 @ 1:26 PM ET
6 years 4-4.5 would be awesome
- shvingter88


It will be less money
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 31 @ 1:28 PM ET
If it is 6 or more years it will be over 5.5 per. Bank on that. Fowler got 6.5 long term.
- Iggysbff


bank on it being less
Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

Aug 31 @ 1:28 PM ET
Going rate for a 30 pointish RHD in his early 20's. I agree it's going to be 6 year $30 million if they go long term.
- smellmyfinger


less money
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Aug 31 @ 1:32 PM ET
less money
- Todd.Cordell


If it I less money than that for 6 years then it's a steal.
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Aug 31 @ 2:04 PM ET
Shattenkirk likely wasn't signing with anyone else but money talks and bullpoop walks. If Ray was interested enough to make an offer he needed to make a strong offer. But of course we didn't. And while Shatts may not be a first pairing guy, isn't NJ the place where he could be?

Last year was development year and people thought after plugging with Schlemko and Stempniak we'd actually compete in some free agency. But of course we didn't. We're not spending because ownership doesn't want to spend any money. That's how that works. It's not some grand strategy. Sorry to tell you, we're a two bit budget team.

- Queenie_5_hole


You're delusional, first you have no idea what Shero offered Shattenkirk and no he can not be a top pairing guy on any team his defense isn't good enough he's a second pairing PP specialist while it's something we need by no means should Shero of overpaid to get it not how you build a successful team, last year was a development year? For who Zacha? This season there will be a lot of rookies on the team McLoed, Hischier, Quenneville, Speers, Butcher, Mueller not all of them at the same time but expect to see them for stretches this season, I see you post over and over about the team not spending money in free agency I would love to know what players you would of liked to see us overpay simply because their the best player available? You don't spend for the sake of spending you build through the draft and then spend when your ready to compete to put you over the top and that's what Shero will be doing there isn't any restrictions on how he spends he's just not stupid he wants to keep his job and build a competitor
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Aug 31 @ 2:07 PM ET
6 years 4-4.5 would be awesome
- shvingter88

Like Ryan Mcdonagh's contract. Would be very good for the Devils. Eats up some UFA years, while keeping the cap hit somewhat low.
Devils314
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 08.16.2016

Aug 31 @ 2:09 PM ET
Shattenkirk likely wasn't signing with anyone else but money talks and bullpoop walks. If Ray was interested enough to make an offer he needed to make a strong offer. But of course we didn't. And while Shatts may not be a first pairing guy, isn't NJ the place where he could be?

Last year was development year and people thought after plugging with Schlemko and Stempniak we'd actually compete in some free agency. But of course we didn't. We're not spending because ownership doesn't want to spend any money. That's how that works. It's not some grand strategy. Sorry to tell you, we're a two bit budget team.

- Queenie_5_hole


It's people like you who would of liked to see Shero sign a guy like loui eriksson last season who got a 6 year 36m contract because he was the best available, he had 24pts last season in case you didn't know
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Aug 31 @ 2:18 PM ET
It's people like you who would of liked to see Shero sign a guy like loui eriksson last season who got a 6 year 36m contract because he was the best available, he had 24pts last season in case you didn't know
- Devils314


woooahh, easy there cowboy
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

Aug 31 @ 3:02 PM ET
Ray will spend when the opportunity arises. He hasn't been frugal, he's been smart. There's many gm's who would've used this cap space on bs free agents With all this cap space still, we are still at a great advantage. Can still take on a bad contract with some picks. There was nothing worth spending on free agency.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 31 @ 3:14 PM ET
You're delusional, first you have no idea what Shero offered Shattenkirk and no he can not be a top pairing guy on any team his defense isn't good enough he's a second pairing PP specialist while it's something we need by no means should Shero of overpaid to get it not how you build a successful team, last year was a development year? For who Zacha? This season there will be a lot of rookies on the team McLoed, Hischier, Quenneville, Speers, Butcher, Mueller not all of them at the same time but expect to see them for stretches this season, I see you post over and over about the team not spending money in free agency I would love to know what players you would of liked to see us overpay simply because their the best player available? You don't spend for the sake of spending you build through the draft and then spend when your ready to compete to put you over the top and that's what Shero will be doing there isn't any restrictions on how he spends he's just not stupid he wants to keep his job and build a competitor
- Devils314



You're delusional because Ray talked about his offer to Shattenkirk and there are articles on it. Would you like a link? Do some (frank)ing research.

Want the truth. You have ZERO (frank)ING PROOF Shero has the green light to spend money but every person we bring in a discount special vet. You think Drew (frank)ing Stafford was the best RW available this year or was the $800K about what we were willing to spend? or did having a shortage of good RW the last two years not tip anyone off we were going to need one?

How about signing Lucic if you want a name so badly? You gonna cry a me river that it's a bad contract? Who cares? He was in the (frank)ing playoffs. How about signing Brendan Smith to play some D? Or how about anyone who doesn't suck, because Moore and Lovejoy are crap and Mueller hasn't even been able to break into the NHL lineup.


Fine, Shero's a (frank)ing genius. He couldn't keep his job in PITTSBURGH with two of the most talented players in the NHL. He hasn't built poop. The exact same conversation about 'oh, we'll spend money next year' crap was talked about the year before too. Wake the (frank) up.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Aug 31 @ 3:18 PM ET
It's people like you who would of liked to see Shero sign a guy like loui eriksson last season who got a 6 year 36m contract because he was the best available, he had 24pts last season in case you didn't know
- Devils314


Actually, I was proselytizing for Kyle Okposo, but he got sick so I guess that would have been wrong too.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Aug 31 @ 3:22 PM ET
Actually, I was proselytizing for Kyle Okposo, but he got sick so I guess that would have been wrong too.
- Queenie_5_hole


proselytizing. impressive.
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