Todd Cordell: On Troy Brouwer's disastrous tenure with the Calgary Flames

I blame Glughead! Suck it GG! Good luck Edmonton with that dynamic duo!

Murray will probably sign him for veteran leadership pp grit. Don't do it Bob.

Treliving has one year left. Better be a good one.

Treliving has one year left. Better be a good one.

- storm88

Tre has made a couple bone head moves. The biggest not protecting the first we gave away for Hamonic.

But in the long run he has been very active in trying to make the team better.

Tre has made a couple bone head moves. The biggest not protecting the first we gave away for Hamonic.

But in the long run he has been very active in trying to make the team better.
- DuranDuran

All Treliving has done is moved around the deck chairs

How he felt a guy like Engelland was EVER worth 2.3 AAV or Brouwer was worth 4.5 AAV is beyond me

He's been neutral on his trades and disastrous on his FA signings, which is why the needle hasn't moved at all and doesn't seem like it will anytime soon

All Treliving has done is moved around the deck chairs

How he felt a guy like Engelland was EVER worth 2.3 AAV or Brouwer was worth 4.5 AAV is beyond me

He's been neutral on his trades and disastrous on his FA signings, which is why the needle hasn't moved at all and doesn't seem like it will anytime soon
- RoloTahmasee

Cant disagree more with everything on this post.

Treliving has one year left. Better be a good one.

- storm88

I totally agree! He's no Jim Benning.

I totally agree! He's no Jim Benning.
- K-man25

Don't let the number of cups be the same in 10 years...

Tre has made a couple bone head moves. The biggest not protecting the first we gave away for Hamonic.

But in the long run he has been very active in trying to make the team better.
- DuranDuran

Good GMs don't need to be so active. You know who else has been very active trying to make their teams better? Dorian and Chiarelli.

Good GMs don't need to be so active. You know who else has been very active trying to make their teams better? Dorian and Chiarelli.
- Hunkulese

Do you just make this sh!t up? Really?

Do you just make this sh!t up? Really?
- K-man25

Making what up? Treliving, Chiarelli, and Dorian have been three of the more active GMs in the league the past few years and all three teams had abysmal seasons last year.

Treliving went all in this offseason and took some major risks that could either make him look like a genius or drop him down into Chiarelli territory.

Do you just make this sh!t up? Really?
- K-man25

Making what up? Treliving, Chiarelli, and Dorian have been three of the more active GMs in the league the past few years and all three teams had abysmal seasons last year.

Treliving went all in this offseason and took some major risks that could either make him look like a genius or drop him down into Chiarelli territory.

As it stands right now, he's lost far more trades than he's won and made some poor UFA signings.

Making what up? Treliving, Chiarelli, and Dorian have been three of the more active GMs in the league the past few years and all three teams had abysmal seasons last year.

Treliving went all in this offseason and took some major risks that could either make him look like a genius or drop him down into Chiarelli territory.
- Hunkulese

Yzermans been a pretty busy gm as well so you can stick your theory in your poutine!

Making what up? Treliving, Chiarelli, and Dorian have been three of the more active GMs in the league the past few years and all three teams had abysmal seasons last year.

Treliving went all in this offseason and took some major risks that could either make him look like a genius or drop him down into Chiarelli territory.
- Hunkulese

Is this post positive? Because I am starting to think that you are not clear of the meaning of the word positive....

Is this post positive? Because I am starting to think that you are not clear of the meaning of the word positive....
- DuranDuran

There's nothing really positive or negative in that post. Pretty neutral.

Is this post positive? Because I am starting to think that you are not clear of the meaning of the word positive....
- DuranDuran

Hey Bro! Lets hope Tre is really talking to Dorian but not about Karlsson. No other GM is going to get better intel about the content of Brady's family conversations about his decision Aug 12th than Tre. I'd do Bennett for Brady in a heart beat, not sure what we would have to add not much seeing Ottawa are severely handicapped in any trade negotiations lately. If the plan is to Gaudreau/Monahan/Lindholm for top line & Matt/Janko & Neal for #2 line, Frolik is a natural LW & could move there with Backlund & Czarnik leaves that 4th line wide open for Brady Ryan & Magpie or Foo or whoever earns it.

Hey Bro! Lets hope Tre is really talking to Dorian but not about Karlsson. No other GM is going to get better intel about the content of Brady's family conversations about his decision Aug 12th than Tre. I'd do Bennett for Brady in a heart beat, not sure what we would have to add not much seeing Ottawa are severely handicapped in any trade negotiations lately. If the plan is to Gaudreau/Monahan/Lindholm for top line & Matt/Janko & Neal for #2 line, Frolik is a natural LW & could move there with Backlund & Czarnik leaves that 4th line wide open for Brady Ryan & Magpie or Foo or whoever earns it.
- Kevin R

We are not getting Brady ....everyone needs to let that idea go

Good GMs don't need to be so active. You know who else has been very active trying to make their teams better? Dorian and Chiarelli.
- Hunkulese

This is the dumbest thing I’ve read in a long time, do you expect a gm who watched his team go through the year with two good lines and no depth that lead to the crumble at the end of the season do nothing?

If San Jose landed Tavares they would have been the most active team this offseason and Wilson is a top gm. Just because your really active doesn’t mean your a bad gm. It’s actually the complete opposite, Tre is taking the lead as a good gm does and is actively trying to help the team to be put into a spot to win.

the team is way better than it was last year and in my book if the gm makes the team better then he’s doing his job.

the team is way better than it was last year and in my book if the gm makes the team better then he’s doing his job.
- shayne

That's the exact same thing we were saying going into last year.

That's the exact same thing we were saying going into last year.
- Hunkulese

Is the team the same as last year?

In your opinion are they worse?

That's the exact same thing we were saying going into last year.
- Hunkulese

And up until Smith went down, we were right in the thick of a playoff race.

A lot of things went wrong for us last year. There were some key injuries, alleged locker room problems, some players looked completely lost, and some straight up bad luck.

Our biggest problem was lack of scoring and Tre addressed that in spades this off-season. This team is much deeper up front than it was when the season ended and I have no idea how you can even argue that.

Goaltending is still a bit of a concern for me, but regardless this team is much better than the one that ended the season.

Is the team the same as last year?

In your opinion are they worse?
- DuranDuran

Losing Hamilton doesn’t help, but everyone and their dog was saying the Flames had one of the best blue lines in the league going into the year.

That Defense hung the goaltender out to dry most nights.

The team is looking much better this year depth/scoring wise, but if that Defense doesn’t step up and Smith takes a step back there’s going to be problems again.

The Flames went from being one of the best overtime teams in the league to living or dieing based on whether Brodie/someone else made a bone head play or not. Which happened too much.

Our biggest problem was lack of scoring and Tre addressed that in spades this off-season. This team is much deeper up front than it was when the season ended and I have no idea how you can even argue that.

- Helios

It sure seems that way, but it sure seemed like Treliving addressed a lot of the problems the Flames had last offseason and all the moves were lateral at best.

I'm hoping it all works this time and I think the Flames are the favourites to win the division right now. But if you're grading Treliving's moves so far, they've been pretty poor and depending on how things go in the next few years, he could be in the conversation for worst GM in the league.

Signing Brouwer was bad, trading for Lazar was bad, trading for Hamonic was bad, trading for Smith was okay but completely unnecessary since he was a marginal upgrade over Elliott.

Neal could easily become a Lucicesque contract, Hamilton could go on to win a Norris, Ferland might actually be a top line guy, and Hanifin and Lindholm might just be what they were in Carolina. Hopefully, his moves pay off, but there's no denying he took some substantial risks.

It sure seems that way, but it sure seemed like Treliving addressed a lot of the problems the Flames had last offseason and all the moves were lateral at best.

I'm hoping it all works this time and I think the Flames are the favourites to win the division right now. But if you're grading Treliving's moves so far, they've been pretty poor and depending on how things go in the next few years, he could be in the conversation for worst GM in the league.

Signing Brouwer was bad, trading for Lazar was bad, trading for Hamonic was bad, trading for Smith was okay but completely unnecessary since he was a marginal upgrade over Elliott.

Neal could easily become a Lucicesque contract, Hamilton could go on to win a Norris, Ferland might actually be a top line guy, and Hanifin and Lindholm might just be what they were in Carolina. Hopefully, his moves pay off, but there's no denying he took some substantial risks.
- Hunkulese

Hamonic and Brouwer are literally the 2 worst moves hes made. Lazar was also nof great, but wnd rounders rarely furn into NHL players, and Lazar was already that.

His draft history and ability to get deals done where no one saw them coming are 2 solid traits. His ability to negotiate with his own players has been very solid as well. Frolik was a good signing, one would argue looking back Engs wasn't as bad as it appeared at the time, but was also likely a Burke move anyways.

The Neal signing this year was a huge step in the right direction as well.

Draft history:

2015 draft gets Hamilton, Andersson, Kylington, Mangiapane
2016 draft gets Tkachuk, Parsons, Dube, Fox, Philips
2017 Valimaki, yes, but also Ruzicka not being a bad 4th rounder helps.

There is no way you put him in the same category as Benning, Chia or Dorion. Not even close. I also think the Burke ouster may be more impactful than some think. Hard to say what strings were being pulled behind the scenes.