Ben Shelley: Predicting Mathew Barzal's contract

Typically it would make most sense to go long term given that he’s only going to get better.

Though I think that the isles cap situation will force them into a similar contract as point in Tampa.

Typically it would make most sense to go long term given that he’s only going to get better.

Though I think that the isles cap situation will force them into a similar contract as point in Tampa.
- RedC21

I'm hopeful they'll be able to clear the space needed to extend him (and Pulock) long-term but there's certainly a chance they may need to go short-term with at least one of them.

Thanks for reading!

Ben thank you for taking the ball and running with it. I would like too see Barzal get a long term deal. However, it would not surprise me if Lou signs him to a bridge deal.

Looking forward to see the other articles. Thank you again for taking the ideas and running with it.

Ben thank you for taking the ball and running with it. I would like too see Barzal get a long term deal. However, it would not surprise me if Lou signs him to a bridge deal.

Looking forward to see the other articles. Thank you again for taking the ideas and running with it.
- Nfdbulldawg

Thanks for the idea! It's not easy to come up with stuff to write about these days, so it certainly helped me out!

Give him 8 million per for 8 years (suck it Ses ) and be done with it.

Ben Shelley: Predicting Mathew Barzal's contract
- Ben Shelley

10 yrs @ $91m for JT's sake

If you're looking for a difficult (and painful?) topic, Ben, consider this: There are SOME medical experts who are predicting, rather gloomily, that this pandemic may be with us for years........that it could take that long to find a cure for the coronavirus. Under those circumstances, what is the effect on professional sports, such as the NHL?
Is it safe to sell out arenas? Will they require spacing by selling only every other seat? What does that do to the economics of a franchise? Does the CBA need an emergency modification, such that players agree to pay cuts? The answers to these questions could make the entire discussion here moot.

Also, will the athletes need to wear full face shields to protect each other from transmission of the virus?

If you're looking for a difficult (and painful?) topic, Ben, consider this: There are SOME medical experts who are predicting, rather gloomily, that this pandemic may be with us for years........that it could take that long to find a cure for the coronavirus. Under those circumstances, what is the effect on professional sports, such as the NHL?
Is it safe to sell out arenas? Will they require spacing by selling only every other seat? What does that do to the economics of a franchise? Does the CBA need an emergency modification, such that players agree to pay cuts? The answers to these questions could make the entire discussion here moot.

Also, will the athletes need to wear full face shields to protect each other from transmission of the virus?
- JohnScammo

Yep and those same medical experts said the same thing about h1n1, sars, mers, and Ebola so keep it in perspective. I’ll believes it when I see it...

A lot of fear and misinformation circulating these days.

Yep and those same medical experts said the same thing about h1n1, sars, mers, and Ebola so keep it in perspective. I’ll believes it when I see it...

A lot of fear and misinformation circulating these days.
- Cptmjl

Perhaps. I guess one difference is that I didn't know anyone who came down with those other diseases. Whereas I knew someone who died from coronavirus, so it hits a little closer to home. Also, I don't remember 85,000 Americans dying from any of those other diseases. And that number just keeps growing....

Stay safe!

Perhaps. I guess one difference is that I didn't know anyone who came down with those other diseases. Whereas I knew someone who died from coronavirus, so it hits a little closer to home. Also, I don't remember 85,000 Americans dying from any of those other diseases. And that number just keeps growing....

Stay safe!
- JohnScammo

Deleted my post in reply to this. Haha. Sorry to hear it man. We’ve all been affected in NY some negative fashion at this point hopefully it doesn’t come back. That is all...

Sorry to hear it man. Yeah I have a couple people I’m friends with my whole life pass away from this. It sucks and has directly affected just about everyone in NY in some negative fashion at this point.

I’m in no way saying it’s not real it certainly is and hits home but that mortality rate is not reality even the “experts” are admitting to it finally. Google hospital reimbursement and coding rates for covid patients it’s public knowledge. I work in it not trying to debate anything. Also, with that said mortality rate has nothing to do with it being a new seasonal flu. It may be but it’s far from a given. I lost a friend to swine flu also and 68 million Americans were infected and neither me or my wife could get a god damn N95 mask at work then either. That was supposed to come back every year and save for a small amount of cases a year it never did hopefully this doesn’t as well.

I’m more concerned with what the next virus looks like at this point. They don’t seem to get weaker.
- Cptmjl

Sorry to hear you've lost friends too. I did not remember swine flu being so serious. I had no idea so many Americans were infected. Maybe I was and didn't even realize it? At your suggestion, I did look into hospital reimbursement rates a little. I found this article to be kind of interesting....
https://www.politifact.co...pitals-COVID-19-payments/

There seems to be a lot we don't know about this particular disease (coronavirus). They still don't even know if you can get it more than once, for example. I have also read that the disease may have already mutated. Strange times.......and a bit scary for us old geezers...

Deleted my post in reply to this. Haha. Sorry to hear it man. We’ve all been affected in NY some negative fashion at this point hopefully it doesn’t come back. That is all...
- Cptmjl

Well, I guess I managed to preserve it for posterity.

Time to open up, we cant stay in our homes till they find a cure. I know no one wants to die or lose a loved one but we have to get things moving

I'm hopeful they'll be able to clear the space needed to extend him (and Pulock) long-term but there's certainly a chance they may need to go short-term with at least one of them.

Thanks for reading!
- Ben Shelley

I have to think that in order to clear cap space you guys would have to move one of your better bad contracts as I don’t think teams are touching Ladd, clutterbuck, komorov and boychuck.

So given that what do you think the trade values for josh Bailey and cizikas will be this off-season?

Sorry to hear you've lost friends too. I did not remember swine flu being so serious. I had no idea so many Americans were infected. Maybe I was and didn't even realize it? At your suggestion, I did look into hospital reimbursement rates a little. I found this article to be kind of interesting....
https://www.politifact.co...pitals-COVID-19-payments/

There seems to be a lot we don't know about this particular disease (coronavirus). They still don't even know if you can get it more than once, for example. I have also read that the disease may have already mutated. Strange times.......and a bit scary for us old geezers...
- JohnScammo

😂

Thank you for your condolences. Politifact is not the most dependable news source they twist things and label them as fact. I’m not saying it’s some kind of scandal like they’re twisting it to be it’s just how healthcare works. A hospital’s revenue stream comes from reimbursement. When you go to the doctor whatever they do while you’re there is based on reimbursement and how much they can make while you’re there. That’s reality. Surgical procedures are altered to trigger different codes for reimbursement. I know that because that’s literally what I get paid to do. Hahaha.

Maximizing a physicians RVU’s(revenue value units) and a hospitals reimbursement is a huge part of my job. These hospitals haven’t been doing elective surgical procedures for up to 2 months now and that’s where all of their money comes from. Their only revenue stream is literally from covid 19 right now. Believe me when I tell you if someone dies in a hospital in NY they are going to do everything in their power to label it as covid related. Any patient that goes into respiratory failure is automatically covid without being tested when 100’s of thousands of people would go into respiratory failure every year before covid 19.

Birx is already saying the mortality rate is AT LEAST 25% less then what’s listed. You could most likely cut it in half IMO and I think we’ll learn more to quantify that. The mortality rate as of now for people under 45 is .08. Reduce the numbers by 25% as Birx suggested and were down to .0078% by 50% and we're down to .006%.

Again, not saying the virus isn’t real it is but the misinformation out there right now is like nothing I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s like we have incarcerated Bob giving us information on Covid 19.

Time to open up, we cant stay in our homes till they find a cure. I know no one wants to die or lose a loved one but we have to get things moving
- Upstate_isles

Agreed. You can’t shut down the country every time a virus sweeps through it. We didn’t bat an eye lash for h1n1 and that was serious. The hospital I was working in at the time was overrun with patients. Didn’t hear a blurb about it on the news as compared to today. There’s a lot to be said for these shut down measures may not be the right answer. There are just as many experts that completely disagree with them as there are that believe in them. You just don’t hear from them because that’s not what the media wants anyone to hear.

We flattened the curve. That was the result we were supposedly looking for to start reopening states. When did politicians get involved in physicians treatment plans or what meds they can prescribe? It’s absurd what’s going on. Now some politicians are saying there has to be a cure or vaccine in place. What if that takes a year, or more, or never happens? Just shut down till further notice? The goal posts keep moving and if anyone believes these decisions are purely based upon the public’s safety dip your head in a bucket of ice you haven’t been paying attention.

Look at LA they’re shut down till august. That’s insane in relation to their numbers imo. The economic impact will be felt for decades from this. There has to be more thought into this besides “we have to save lives!!!!” it’s impossible to debate that and that is by design of course. When they don’t even know definitively that what they’re doing right now is 100% the right thing to do.

This isn’t a political debate. They need to eliminate that from the conversation to start making any kind of sensible decisions on what should or shouldn’t be done. Unfortunately that will never happen in this climate.

Well, I guess I managed to preserve it for posterity.
- JohnScammo

😂

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Thank you for your condolences. Politifact is not the most dependable news source they twist things and label them as fact. I’m not saying it’s some kind of scandal like they’re twisting it to be it’s just how healthcare works. A hospital’s revenue stream comes from reimbursement. When you go to the doctor whatever they do while you’re there is based on reimbursement and how much they can make while you’re there. That’s reality. Surgical procedures are altered to trigger different codes for reimbursement. I know that because that’s literally what I get paid to do. Hahaha.

Maximizing a physicians RVU’s(revenue value units) and a hospitals reimbursement is a huge part of my job. These hospitals haven’t been doing elective surgical procedures for up to 2 months now and that’s where all of their money comes from. Their only revenue stream is literally from covid 19 right now. Believe me when I tell you if someone dies in a hospital in NY they are going to do everything in their power to label it as covid related. Any patient that goes into respiratory failure is automatically covid without being tested when 100’s of thousands of people would go into respiratory failure every year before covid 19.

Birx is already saying the mortality rate is AT LEAST 25% less then what’s listed. You could most likely cut it in half IMO and I think we’ll learn more to quantify that. The mortality rate as of now for people under 45 is .08. Reduce the numbers by 25% as Birx suggested and were down to .0078% by 50% and we're down to .006%.

Again, not saying the virus isn’t real it is but the misinformation out there right now is like nothing I’ve ever seen in my life. It’s like we have incarcerated Bob giving us information on Covid 19.
- Cptmjl

I have found Politifact to be fairly reliable, but I guess we'll agree to disagree. We can't really debate the issue without getting into politics which nobody wants to hear on this board.

Regarding the bold, it's a little scary to think that doctors are treating patients based on their reimbursements rather than what's best for the patient. It's a good argument for socialized medicine. AOC approves your post, cpt.

OK, no more politics. I may need to withdraw my suggestion that Ben write about the effects of corona on the NHL. Too political.

Thank you for writing this Ben. I don't think anyone can disagree with your thoughts as you clearly did the homework and the numbers speak for themselves. That was all based on a Long Term deal though... That is where I disagree. It may end up being a big mistake on Lou's part in regards to Barzal but one thing Lou has always done is use all the time he has in regards to contracts. The only Long Term contract he ever signed that I can remember was a fiasco with Kovy. I think he will go the Bridge deal route and you will see Less years for a Lower number. He is a big fan of the "Prove it" type of deal. Barzal this year has clearly taken a step backwards in some areas and if he keeps turning the puck over constantly he will not play for Barry Trotz... or at least not as much TOI. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2 or 3 year deal and by the time that deal is done the Isles will have a TON of money off the books in Boychuk, Clutter, Leo, etc.

Lots of guys every summer talk about the Cap and it's possible issues for the Islanders. Every single year I say the same thing... .Not once have the Isles had cap issues... ever... not even close. I will believe it when it finally happens.

Political Fact... Seems like fake partisan

Political Fact... Seems like fake partisan
- kaptaan

Yeah the name isn’t accurate. They’ve been proven wrong and retracted stories multiple times. There’s nothing factual about politifact. No offense John😂

I have found Politifact to be fairly reliable, but I guess we'll agree to disagree. We can't really debate the issue without getting into politics which nobody wants to hear on this board.

Regarding the bold, it's a little scary to think that doctors are treating patients based on their reimbursements rather than what's best for the patient. It's a good argument for socialized medicine. AOC approves your post, cpt.

OK, no more politics. I may need to withdraw my suggestion that Ben write about the effects of corona on the NHL. Too political.
- JohnScammo

😂

Yeah right 😂