Jeremy Laura: Thoughts on NYR winning the lotto

Jeremy Laura: Thoughts on NYR winning the lotto
- Jeremy Laura

I'm just happy it wasn't the Pens, Oilers or Leafs. But I'm getting sick of the Red Wings getting (frank)ed over in the draft lottery every year. Rangers are gifted Kakko and now Lafreniere. Good for them.

its whatever. lets see who is there at 4. need to pick a star regardless. cant mess this up.

I'm just happy it wasn't the Pens, Oilers or Leafs. But I'm getting sick of the Red Wings getting (frank)ed over in the draft lottery every year. Rangers are gifted Kaako and now Lafreniere. Good for them.
- gergeswillems

I’m right there with you. It’s more palatable but not great. Let’s see if Yzerman can make some magic here

its whatever. lets see who is there at 4. need to pick a star regardless. cant mess this up.
- wingz4life

Absolutely. Locked in on reality, and glad it wasn’t a top 4 team that got it. Moving on!

I would expect NY to make a trade to get a 2C. being they are in cap hell, they will also need to jettison some salary. I can't see where the Wings would benifit by giving them Veleno unless Trouba or Delangelo or possibly K'andre Miller come to the Wings. It could be a possibility!

I would rather the Jets, Wild or Preds would have gotten #1. but 2020 has been anything but fair!

I would rather the Jets, Wild or Preds would have gotten #1. but 2020 has been anything but fair!
- HenryHockey

Gotta get the NBC ratings up. Gary needs Rangers to be a Cup contender. He can sell it saying this is the first time Rangers have ever picked 1st overall. It's perfect.

Gotta get the NBC ratings up. Gary needs Rangers to be a Cup contender. He can sell it saying this is the first time Rangers have ever picked 1st overall. It's perfect.
- gergeswillems

Seems like NYC is the place to be! It is a good thing these players make a lot of money so they can hire private security when the police are defunded!

I'm just happy it wasn't the Pens, Oilers or Leafs. But I'm getting sick of the Red Wings getting (frank)ed over in the draft lottery every year. Rangers are gifted Kakko and now Lafreniere. Good for them.
- gergeswillems

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! Not a Ranger fan, but as long as those 3 didn't get him, all is good!

I would expect NY to make a trade to get a 2C. being they are in cap hell, they will also need to jettison some salary. I can't see where the Wings would benifit by giving them Veleno unless Trouba or Delangelo or possibly K'andre Miller come to the Wings. It could be a possibility!
- HenryHockey

I also don’t see the rangers trading for a non-established C which would make me believe Veleno wouldn’t be of interest for them. Add in that lafreniere will be on ELC for 3 years would lead me to assume they package one of buchnevich or Kreider with strome for the player they need if that’s the route they choose. In which case I think buchnevich would be the far likelier option given the recent commitment to kreider, which would result in either kreider or lafreniere being converted to RW

I would expect NY to make a trade to get a 2C. being they are in cap hell, they will also need to jettison some salary. I can't see where the Wings would benifit by giving them Veleno unless Trouba or Delangelo or possibly K'andre Miller come to the Wings. It could be a possibility!
- HenryHockey

Its nice to see us get out first 1st overall ever. In regards to the 2C they should trade buch and deangelo now with a flat cap. Have Nils and Miller coming up on D.

"I'm just happy it wasn't the Pens, Oilers or Leafs. But I'm getting sick of the Red Wings getting (frank)ed over in the draft lottery every year. Rangers are gifted Kakko and now Lafreniere. Good for them. "

I agree.

The Rangers cap situation will be quite good after next season.

Staal, Lundqvist and Smith are coming off the books and Shattenkirk's buyout goes down 5 million. Freeing up 23.2 million.

Gotta get the NBC ratings up. Gary needs Rangers to be a Cup contender. He can sell it saying this is the first time Rangers have ever picked 1st overall. It's perfect.
- gergeswillems

The fact that they pulled the ball live debunks this phase being rigged

its whatever. lets see who is there at 4. need to pick a star regardless. cant mess this up.
- wingz4life

I got my fingers crossed for that goalie whom I can't remember his name. The draft rankings and "best player available" can shove off. No matter where he's taken, they're gambling on him being a star so why not pick him at 4 for great odds on getting a goalie.

The fact that they pulled the ball live debunks this phase being rigged
- VonDouche

Well the Rangers balled was dropped in before Bettman approved it, then the guy fished it out of the machine so that Bettman could verify it and then dropped it again.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hacMauF1Swo

I got my fingers crossed for that goalie whom I can't remember his name. The draft rankings and "best player available" can shove off. No matter where he's taken, they're gambling on him being a star so why not pick him at 4 for great odds on getting a goalie.
- VonDouche

Askarov, I would love to get him but we have so many holes on this team that we need to take a safer pick at #4. Hoping we draft Drysdale here.

The fact that they pulled the ball live debunks this phase being rigged
- VonDouche

Sure. Have fun believing that.

Jeremy Laura: Thoughts on NYR winning the lotto
- Jeremy Laura

When I was in Iraq, we used to watch the close-air-support aircraft do their thing.....and there was much rejoicing ("yyyeeeeaaaahhhhhhh!"). After a while, we just kept fighting with no regard for the aircraft......I kinda feel that way about the draft. Make sense?
I agree with G; if any of those 3 teams would've "won", I probably woulda flipped my wig and had to be committed to a "special" place for my head

I got my fingers crossed for that goalie whom I can't remember his name. The draft rankings and "best player available" can shove off. No matter where he's taken, they're gambling on him being a star so why not pick him at 4 for great odds on getting a goalie.
- VonDouche

No thank you to drafting Askarov with the 4th or even in the top 10. Let someone else take the gamble on him. Plenty of young more proven goalies will be available due to the expansion draft and they won't cost a top pick to get.

If the Wings were loaded with top young talent at forward and defense (for example like Carolina), then sure take the gamble on the goalie...but we all know the Wings are far from loaded at either forward or defense.

The Rangers cap situation will be quite good after next season.

Staal, Lundqvist and Smith are coming off the books and Shattenkirk's buyout goes down 5 million. Freeing up 23.2 million.
- porkchops1977

Absolutely correct. But, I have no idea how we are going to navigate this one season of cap hell with no increase to it. We will probably have to move a mid-roster player for picks. But after that we are golden.

Askarov, I would love to get him but we have so many holes on this team that we need to take a safer pick at #4. Hoping we draft Drysdale here.
- porkchops1977

I would think that's your guy.
Unless Ottawa decides they like him more than whichever of Byfield and Stutzle are left for them. Regardless, you guys will have another good, young piece to fit into your rebuild.

I would think that's your guy.
Unless Ottawa decides they like him more than whichever of Byfield and Stutzle are left for them. Regardless, you guys will have another good, young piece to fit into your rebuild.
- Tonybere

You never know. Not many thought Zadina would fall to 6th in 2018. Most experts had them at #3 that year.

I got my fingers crossed for that goalie whom I can't remember his name. The draft rankings and "best player available" can shove off. No matter where he's taken, they're gambling on him being a star so why not pick him at 4 for great odds on getting a goalie.
- VonDouche

I get where you're coming from but I just feel that taking a goalie that high is almost never worth the risk, especially for a team that has so many holes and no sure bets to build around yet.

Number one, goalies are super hard to project.

Number two, you really need the guy you draft to be a significant difference maker (like a consistent top 5-10 goalie in the world for a decent chunk of time) in order for the investment to pay off substantially over, say, signing a mid-grade starter on the cheap every 2-3 years.

If you draft a forward at No. 4 and he turns out to be just an average NHLer, that’s disappointing but at least it means that’s one fewer Adam Erne or Justin Abdelkader you need to have in the lineup, and you still have an intriguing young asset that you might be able to turn into something better later. Whereas if you draft a goalie and he turns out to be just average, you gain basically nothing. Trade value is zilch, and on-ice value you might as well have just signed any of the half-dozen league-average replacement journeyman that are available every year and been almost no worse for it.

In other words? The way I see it anyway, a goalie taken at No. 4 is not only less likely to become an elite player than a skater taken there, but non-elite goalies are also less valuable than non-elite skaters. It's lose-lose.

Obviously I’ll be eating my words if Askarov lives up to the hype and has an all-star career, but purely based on the probabilities I think it’s smarter to take one of the forwards who will still be available at 4 (fingers crossed for Rossi) and then look at taking a goalie in the second or third round, and maybe one more in the round 5-7 range.