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Ben Shelley
Joined: 07.23.2019

Oct 15 @ 6:00 PM ET
Ben Shelley: Hurricanes may have a difficult time trading Jake Gardiner
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 6:02 PM ET
expansion draft is going to be interesting to see what defensemen Canes choose to protect
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 15 @ 6:15 PM ET
I think they can move him if they package a pick with him. My only thing is, is it actually worth it to move him unless they're making space to sign a forward?
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Oct 15 @ 6:21 PM ET
Hard NO to Gardiner, but if you're interested in making your Expansion Draft choices a little easier, I'm sure the Jets would love to talk to you about one of Pesce, Skjei, or Fleury. Perhaps you'd be interested in a Roslovic and/or Niku? Maybe a Veselainen?? And If Slavin's available, boy do we have a treat for you! We also have this guy called Laine you may have heard of . . . Happy to add him to the discussion for someone like Slavin!
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 15 @ 6:25 PM ET
I was baffled when the Canes signed Gardiner. Already had a pretty deep d corps, plus guys like Bean ready to make the leap. This dilemma seemed inevitable

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 15 @ 6:33 PM ET
Hard NO to Gardiner, but if you're interested in making your Expansion Draft choices a little easier, I'm sure the Jets would love to talk to you about one of Pesce, Skjei, or Fleury. Perhaps you'd be interested in a Roslovic and/or Niku? Maybe a Veselainen?? And If Slavin's available, boy do we have a treat for you! We also have this guy called Laine you may have heard of . . . Happy to add him to the discussion for someone like Slavin!
- Quillanrocks


That would be a hard no.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Oct 15 @ 6:47 PM ET
I think they can move him if they package a pick with him. My only thing is, is it actually worth it to move him unless they're making space to sign a forward?
- BINGO!


Considering the term left, vs the quality of player, I think it would have to be more than that, unless they eat some salary.
Cabbages and Kings
Los Angeles Kings
Joined: 10.15.2020

Oct 15 @ 6:48 PM ET
Completely agree that the Gardiner signing was a bit off-kilter. Not only were they deep on D at the time, they were and continue to be deep on the left side. Perhaps they can package Gardiner with Fluery or Bean for a right shot D. That still leaves them with:

Slavin
Skejie
Fluery/Bean

On the left side and would save them 4m. I agree that moving Gardiner on his own at this point looks difficult.
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

Oct 15 @ 7:09 PM ET
Should be easy to move a top defenseman in the league
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

Oct 15 @ 8:00 PM ET
Hard NO to Gardiner, but if you're interested in making your Expansion Draft choices a little easier, I'm sure the Jets would love to talk to you about one of Pesce, Skjei, or Fleury. Perhaps you'd be interested in a Roslovic and/or Niku? Maybe a Veselainen?? And If Slavin's available, boy do we have a treat for you! We also have this guy called Laine you may have heard of . . . Happy to add him to the discussion for someone like Slavin!
- Quillanrocks

Yeahhhhhhh Slavin >>> Laine...
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Oct 15 @ 8:22 PM ET
Yeahhhhhhh Slavin >>> Laine...
- FinnGod


I'm sure the deal could include other pieces to satisfy both sides! (said with fingers crossed that Caroluna would ever go for that!)
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

Oct 15 @ 9:12 PM ET
The Maple Leafs might take him off your hands if you added a first round pick. 😎
islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

Oct 15 @ 9:14 PM ET
The Jets aren't going to trade Laine.
farooge
Nashville Predators
Location: Nashville, TN
Joined: 08.25.2006

Oct 15 @ 9:47 PM ET
while +/- isn't always worth much it is usually notable when a guy is way out of line compared to everyone else on the team

He was -24!! with 30pts and 16:40 atoi. The next closest defender was van Riemsdyk at -7 with 8pts and 14:52 atoi

for 4m? throw in a 2nd and I'd give you futures or maybe a 6th
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Oct 15 @ 10:03 PM ET
I think they can move him if they package a pick with him. My only thing is, is it actually worth it to move him unless they're making space to sign a forward?
- BINGO!
Some team will rape CAR like they did the Leafs in the Marleau deal
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 15 @ 10:29 PM ET
Some team will rape CAR like they did the Leafs in the Marleau deal
- DEDDIE


They aren't that desperate to move him. It's not like he was bad last year. Just not what they needed.
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Oct 15 @ 10:47 PM ET
The Jets aren't going to trade Laine.
- islansjet


Apparently it seems like a certainty, according to TSN. Every time this rumor comes up, I circle back to Carolina. It seems like the best trade fit, IMO. Can't help but wonder if the GM's are in a game of chicken
Greyman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: NF
Joined: 06.14.2013

Oct 16 @ 7:27 AM ET
How is James Tanner going to explain this one away I wonder? lol Gardnier can skate but he is an extremely stupid player. A liability every time he's on the ice. Soft along the boards and never wins a puck battle. But I guess blindly throwing the puck towards the net because you didn't see plays develop and you're afraid to take a hit will give you a great corsi lol
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Oct 16 @ 7:55 AM ET
Someone will take him at 50% retained just to buy him out. Then Pitts will sign him for the same contract.

Or trade him to EDM with 50% retained for 1yr of Russell.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

Oct 16 @ 8:32 AM ET
If we should all have learned one thing its that everyone is moveable. It's just a matter of finding that fit and making it work. We've seen plenty of worse situations get done.

Considering the Ryan Murray and Nate Schmidt trades, Carolina isn't going to get a real asset back. They'll probably have to pay for someone to take him. But someone will.
Turnitaround
Joined: 07.03.2011

Oct 16 @ 8:52 AM ET
Canes were already deep on defense and then signed the worst defensemen that had played on the team with one of the worst defences in the last decade. What did they expect?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 16 @ 9:30 AM ET
Canes were already deep on defense and then signed the worst defensemen that had played on the team with one of the worst defences in the last decade. What did they expect?
- Turnitaround


trading their first rounder for Brady Skjei was a bit suspect I thought, especially with the expansion draft coming up

if I was running Carolina I'd probably protect Slavin, Pesce and Fleury, leaving Seattle their pick from Skjei or Gardiner

AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 16 @ 9:44 AM ET
Yeahhhhhhh Slavin >>> Laine...
- FinnGod


Slavin has gone from unknown player to the single most overrated player in the league, in the span of 2 years

If you think he has more value than Laine, you’re insane. WPG would undoubtedly be interested in Slavin, but CAR would be adding significant pieces
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Oct 16 @ 10:26 AM ET
Slavin has gone from unknown player to the single most overrated player in the league, in the span of 2 years

If you think he has more value than Laine, you’re insane. WPG would undoubtedly be interested in Slavin, but CAR would be adding significant pieces

- AxlRose91


lol
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Oct 16 @ 11:03 AM ET
Slavin has gone from unknown player to the single most overrated player in the league, in the span of 2 years

If you think he has more value than Laine, you’re insane. WPG would undoubtedly be interested in Slavin, but CAR would be adding significant pieces

- AxlRose91


They WON'T, but if Carolina offered Slavin for Laine, 1 for 1, take the deal and run!

It would be a tough pill to swallow every time a Laine hattrick is on sports highlights but Slavin makes the Jets so much competitively better, night in and night out.
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